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this is another episode of ufo garage

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i'm ben and i'm joe and you already know

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this is where we talk about ufos

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aliens and all things weird

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what's up dude saw dude man not much man

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uh just uh crazy times crazy everything

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yeah the the world is i guess depending

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on how you look at it either falling

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apart

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or coming together either way i'm glad

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to break away from that

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and get back to what we do good yes you

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know

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yeah so i'm exactly i'm i'm uh i'm i'm

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this is the exact time that it's like

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all right let's leave all that [\h__\h] out

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of the door

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and let's get into the good stuff the

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pot has been boiling

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and and my psyche and my just overall

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energy it's like i've been so frustrated

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uh just with everything going on but

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like this is this is going to be fun man

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like we have we have awesome guests

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tonight that i'm

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super excited to hear me too all the

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stories and this is yeah

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i'm i'm i'm excited to to get dig in and

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see what uh when we can figure out

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yeah so uh we had some people reach out

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to us chad and alta

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um and uh abducted in the french quarter

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chad and also guys we don't know

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anything about this story

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it's gonna be like a first time reaction

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type thing uh

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and uh they're gonna be sending us our

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book we're definitely gonna

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read through it for sure and uh but

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tonight is gonna be fun because

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we're gonna hear the story just fresh

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like

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just as if you haven't heard this just

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as if you haven't heard the story so

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we're hearing it for the first time just

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like you guys

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and uh yeah dude i'm excited well we've

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got uh chad and alta you guys say what's

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up and uh yeah

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you guys there yeah so how are y'all

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and uh thanks for having us uh on

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tonight

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yeah we're here and we're so happy to be

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with you and thanks so much for having

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us

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well thank you guys for reaching out man

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you know it's uh

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it's uh it's a it's a little risky

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sometimes you just never know who you're

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gonna get you know but uh you know i was

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i was reading through this little

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profile and and uh

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you know very interesting there's no way

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i could pass that up

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we're just so happy you didn't pass this

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up oh absolutely

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yeah we we enjoy uh sharing our story so

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other people that have experiences

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similar to us don't think they're alone

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you know yeah yeah i think that's a very

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very important part

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uh we're getting to a really uh you know

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a really important time um in history

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stuff like this again uh you know

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whether it be ufos aliens anything

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i i you know people are definitely

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starting to uh

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change their mind a little bit it

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doesn't sound like something that's just

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wacky crazy

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i think uh i think i think we're

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starting to kind of turn a new leaf

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with with society and the way people

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view this so

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i'm excited to yeah i'm excited to get

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into it i mean if you guys

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let's start i mean y'all got years and

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years of this stuff so let's

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let's start at the beginning man um

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well you can't see chad but he's

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pointing at me right now so

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all right i guess as

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you know as it should be probably i'll

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jump us off in this and just start with

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my beginning because i happen to be

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10 years older than chad oh right so

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i've been around

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him and

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my understanding about my early history

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what i've been told i don't have any

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childhood memories until i'm about

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nine about nine years old prior to that

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it's blank

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it's not there now with that said

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i'm told by a mother who pretty much

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raised me alone

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she became widowed with my stepfather

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about 15 and from that point on she'd

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stayed single

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or widowed for the rest of her life but

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her story that she shared with me

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is that i'm born in arizona

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excuse me i'm a mixed native blood i use

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the word indian

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right i'm in my 60s now i've never had

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children and i don't have to be

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i don't yeah i understand that i was the

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end or mixed indian that

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the old terms so i stick with it well

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welcome home

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right and so mom says that

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you know that i'm i'm born apparently i

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always said hatched

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and that she left my birth father

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when i was about six months old so just

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for age range

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give you all an idea i'm a 57 i'm born

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in 1957.

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okay so she claims that

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somewhere when i'm around six months old

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she leaves my dad

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and all of his people now i don't know

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my mother's people at all

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there's so much mystery and there's i

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can only share what i know

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i can tell you what i don't know and

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most of it i don't know

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uh but but my reality is is that mom

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claims that when i'm about six months

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old she left my dad

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uh without knowledge without his

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knowledge she just decided she was gonna

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pack me up

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and we were leaving she says we're in

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the car

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now remember i'm about six months old

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she's driving she claims that we're

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crossing the desert

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i have no idea what desert she's talking

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she says that while she's driving in the

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middle of broad daylight

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it's daylight she claims that a

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she changed the language a couple of

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times that i remember

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either a ufo or a craft

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she claims and said it was metallic

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came down out of the sky and stopped her

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that's what she said wow now okay that's

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right right so when i'm younger when i

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when i'm you know a younger person

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teenage years what have you

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or even younger maybe 11 12 or so when

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memory is starting to

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like i'm able to capture memory hang on

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this was the subject that i had no

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and it freaked me out and it embarrassed

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invisible i wish i could say physically

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i would disappear out of the room she'd

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about that and i i like to share this

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very private she had a lot of mystery in

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her history

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and a lot of that is still a mystery to

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but my point is is because she was so

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she was what i call a very powerful

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self-made woman

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and right on i found that with her

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creation of self uh empowerment if you

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people did not challenge her they saw

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her as a mixed native

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elder woman who had a strong education

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she went to college late in life we'll

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get back to that in a moment because

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to me always been interesting a part of

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this story but in my younger life

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before she started the college years she

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had started working very hard on

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self improvement and becoming

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self-reliant

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what have you then ultimately what i

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is that she when she would say this to a

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couple of people she ever trusted

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because she trusted very few

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but the few that i can account for maybe

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uh over the years that she would share

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my point is is nobody would ever

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challenge her she was not a woman to be

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challenged so and i certainly didn't i

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just got out of the room

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i would go hide i couldn't believe she

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was saying these things i thought she

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was crazy

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so i had no interest even after hearing

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my own mother make those statements did

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i ever have an interest

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in any of this none none at all so

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did you did you have a a an innate

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embarrassment kind of feeling that

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overwhelmed you did you

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i feel like this is kind of a learn like

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a learned uh tendency but what you're

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saying it's more of like

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a a nature versus nurture kind of

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i believe that would be correct amundo

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sir yeah

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i mean interesting you know just again

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without all the psychology behind it

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let me go to my first memory so my first

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memory is around nine years old and i'm

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i then discovered i knew exactly uh i

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i can account for that exactly right now

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all these years later

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i was in a place called fitzsimmons

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all of a sudden i go from zero to nine

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with memory there's no memory before

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wow the memory so the first memory is

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i'm in a military hospital but

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i don't know that exactly at the time i

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just realized i'm

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my eyes are like waking up like i'm

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waking up

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in a very sanitized environment

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i'm sitting at a small table there's a

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man in front of me and there's a little

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there's a little wall between us a

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little on the desk or on the table top

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and i was being tested for esp

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what was it okay

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okay so like a divider not a clear

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plexiglass but like a divider where you

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can't see the other

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the other side of of the the divider

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so this was like a triggering memory but

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you're realizing

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as it's happening like i've been here

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before is that what you're saying

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not about been here before i'm i'm

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awakening

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i'm realizing i'm i'm awake

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i don't know how to say that when you've

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been in a there's no other way to

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prior to that there's no memory whoa

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very interesting i just write i have no

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that's why i say i use the word

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comically but i'm not so sure what's

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comic anymore in

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reality whatever that means it's like

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all of a sudden i'm being hatched

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it's like i'm all of a sudden right so

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i'm being tested

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then the memory goes i only have that

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flash

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and then i also know historically

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through my mother and some of the

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records we lived in aurora

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we happened to live across the street

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from that hospital

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so i have a little bit of a question so

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when you're in this hospital your mom is

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obviously with you

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or do you remember if she's with you or

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not no

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i have no memory of her at all ah okay

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okay memory the memory is very flash

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it's very quick

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right right okay uh i have another

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question but i'm gonna let you

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keep going until i get to it because i

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want to make a point i guess

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but you might already make it for me so

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let's kind of see where this goes i like

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this

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moment of what i just described to you

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the man that's sitting in front of me

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has got a white lab coat on like a

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doctor

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and the environment is very sanitized

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and i remember i'm being asked

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to uh and it's not even i'm almost

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filling that in for you because it's so

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fast the memory is so fast right that

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um the only reason i'm repeating it is

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because my mother confirmed that

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she confirmed that right that i was in

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fact

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being tested but again because

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i didn't ever question anything these

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were these were subjects of

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oh my god i feel like a freak i just

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feel

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like a freak now you hear people all the

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time now because people think the

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heavens are starting to become more

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public

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or at least allowing themselves to speak

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their truths more than we've ever had in

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the past

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and i hear this so often that folks are

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saying these kinds of

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we're all saying the same thing in many

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ways about

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memory the experiences the embarrassment

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or the shame

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or the beauty of it all whatever the

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case may be

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in my case i have a flash memory of

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being tested for esp

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then memory goes again now we fast

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forward

345
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i'm somewhere around 11 or 12. we

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now live in iowa

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now i have no memory of leaving colorado

348
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i have no memory of anything in between

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there's nothing there whoa

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next thing i know i'm in the midwest and

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for about 10 years of my life i lived

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i would consider it as close to probably

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a

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there's nothing to do

355
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that's it exactly but i'll also share

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with you my discovered sense

357
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my childhood friends were all having ufo

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experiences

359
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and being taken there's a lot of

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activity that goes on in iowa

361
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because it is interesting such a good

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kept secret

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most people have no idea so

364
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so i spend my you know my youth in iowa

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from whatever i guess we left

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colorado between nine and ten when i'm

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in that age range

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my memory kicks in somewhere around i

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said 11 12 i even want to kind of push

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that

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more closer to 12 13. and in between

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there

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goes out

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it's like a wave that comes in and goes

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out so i can't even account for

376
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what's a reality and what i'm you know

377
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what am i imagining whatever

378
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right so then as a teenager

379
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i had this very uh

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beautiful in many ways teenage hood

381
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i'm being raised in a city

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surrounded in cornfields i mean it's

383
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just like you said metal bands i mean

384
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you know that was my world

385
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yeah so i'm thinking i'm living

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something normal but i'm telling you as

387
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a human being or whatever i am

388
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i never thought of myself as normal or

389
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anything associated with that word it

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felt

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almost impostory like i was an imposter

392
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and i'd never could never get a handle

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on that

394
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just that that word that we all seem to

395
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be using now being different

396
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right and yes yeah that was me

397
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definitely in the middle of iowa

398
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i mean originally out of arizona told i

399
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lived in california when i'm little

400
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and so on you know and now i'm in iowa

401
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so so right off the bat we're already

402
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experiencing some some time loss i mean

403
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we all

404
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childhood and

405
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yeah you know little things like that

406
00:16:02,870 --> 00:15:59,680
but i would imagine that road trip from

407
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colorado to iowa would have been kind of

408
00:16:07,110 --> 00:16:05,360
hell for a kid to be stuck in a car

409
00:16:09,269 --> 00:16:07,120
memorable experience yeah

410
00:16:10,790 --> 00:16:09,279
well my mom would would take me like

411
00:16:12,389 --> 00:16:10,800
shopping we grew up in a small town

412
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where she would take me shopping

413
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in in a big town it was like 30 minutes

414
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away

415
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it was the worst day of my life 45

416
00:16:23,110 --> 00:16:20,079
minutes

417
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worst day of my well mine's not there so

418
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my worst days apparently got removed

419
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because i just there's no memory of that

420
00:16:32,389 --> 00:16:30,880
none of that wow and then uh

421
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there was another sort of thought that

422
00:16:35,990 --> 00:16:34,480
came about about my period of time of

423
00:16:39,350 --> 00:16:36,000
living there and

424
00:16:42,949 --> 00:16:39,360
these experiences i don't remember

425
00:16:46,389 --> 00:16:42,959
ever anything about out there

426
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while i'm in iowa when i say out there

427
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nothing about ufos nothing about beings

428
00:16:55,189 --> 00:16:53,519
crafts none of that i'm experiencing

429
00:16:57,430 --> 00:16:55,199
now i've kind of babied up all the

430
00:16:59,430 --> 00:16:57,440
language just to get through it

431
00:17:01,509 --> 00:16:59,440
so instead of the word ghost i call them

432
00:17:04,789 --> 00:17:01,519
ghosties

433
00:17:06,630 --> 00:17:04,799
love that yeah that's great so i started

434
00:17:09,110 --> 00:17:06,640
i start experiencing what

435
00:17:10,710 --> 00:17:09,120
others would in all their language i try

436
00:17:11,909 --> 00:17:10,720
to stay away from language

437
00:17:14,630 --> 00:17:11,919
because i find that that's going to

438
00:17:15,909 --> 00:17:14,640
change constantly but i'm experiencing a

439
00:17:18,789 --> 00:17:15,919
lot of

440
00:17:19,909 --> 00:17:18,799
what i would consider ghosty type of

441
00:17:23,429 --> 00:17:19,919
interaction

442
00:17:24,949 --> 00:17:23,439
wow and because my mother said and had

443
00:17:26,870 --> 00:17:24,959
told me

444
00:17:28,870 --> 00:17:26,880
about confirming about this being tested

445
00:17:32,549 --> 00:17:28,880
for esp business

446
00:17:35,750 --> 00:17:32,559
um it almost seemed natural to her

447
00:17:39,110 --> 00:17:35,760
and it didn't seem that unnatural to me

448
00:17:41,990 --> 00:17:39,120
to have a sensitivity to

449
00:17:43,909 --> 00:17:42,000
my word ghosties so it was more like an

450
00:17:47,190 --> 00:17:43,919
expectation in your household to

451
00:17:50,950 --> 00:17:47,200
experiencing weird noises or

452
00:17:52,310 --> 00:17:50,960
or feelings of of of being watched in

453
00:17:53,990 --> 00:17:52,320
some way i mean

454
00:17:56,230 --> 00:17:54,000
a lot of people that that have like

455
00:17:56,630 --> 00:17:56,240
experiences with the paranormal ghosts

456
00:18:00,230 --> 00:17:56,640
or

457
00:18:03,270 --> 00:18:00,240
feeling like oh there's something in

458
00:18:06,070 --> 00:18:03,280
this freaking room dude

459
00:18:07,510 --> 00:18:06,080
oh yeah absolutely and then even more so

460
00:18:08,870 --> 00:18:07,520
in the level of

461
00:18:11,110 --> 00:18:08,880
i certainly have heard other people

462
00:18:12,630 --> 00:18:11,120
having lot bigger kinds of experiences

463
00:18:16,150 --> 00:18:12,640
and whatever but mine were

464
00:18:18,710 --> 00:18:16,160
subtle in many ways and

465
00:18:20,150 --> 00:18:18,720
certainly you just nailed it never

466
00:18:22,390 --> 00:18:20,160
feeling alone

467
00:18:23,350 --> 00:18:22,400
but it was never comforting it was

468
00:18:30,549 --> 00:18:23,360
always

469
00:18:31,190 --> 00:18:30,559
force was watching me and i never liked

470
00:18:33,909 --> 00:18:31,200
it

471
00:18:35,190 --> 00:18:33,919
in fact sirs to this day i don't allow

472
00:18:41,029 --> 00:18:35,200
photos

473
00:18:42,950 --> 00:18:41,039
any circumstances if i can help it wow

474
00:18:44,549 --> 00:18:42,960
now there's been times that they've been

475
00:18:46,390 --> 00:18:44,559
taken

476
00:18:47,830 --> 00:18:46,400
when i'm in my regalia in my native

477
00:18:49,909 --> 00:18:47,840
regalia i was raised

478
00:18:51,110 --> 00:18:49,919
to be a part of the native world but

479
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from an extension

480
00:18:55,190 --> 00:18:52,799
because my mom again with all her

481
00:18:57,029 --> 00:18:55,200
mystery she made sure though that i

482
00:18:58,950 --> 00:18:57,039
always had regalia

483
00:19:00,549 --> 00:18:58,960
i've always i've been a traditional

484
00:19:03,110 --> 00:19:00,559
dancer at powwows

485
00:19:04,950 --> 00:19:03,120
back in the day so on and so forth so

486
00:19:07,430 --> 00:19:04,960
it's like i've always had that world

487
00:19:09,510 --> 00:19:07,440
kind of interjected into this

488
00:19:10,470 --> 00:19:09,520
other world that i having a hard time

489
00:19:13,909 --> 00:19:10,480
defining

490
00:19:15,990 --> 00:19:13,919
yeah so what i love is that

491
00:19:17,190 --> 00:19:16,000
we're here i did not know that you were

492
00:19:20,150 --> 00:19:17,200
native american

493
00:19:21,590 --> 00:19:20,160
so i have so many questions i'm excited

494
00:19:24,150 --> 00:19:21,600
to hear the rest of it but like your

495
00:19:26,230 --> 00:19:24,160
connection with the spirit world because

496
00:19:28,230 --> 00:19:26,240
you know that there's many different

497
00:19:29,510 --> 00:19:28,240
ways of describing it with in different

498
00:19:32,870 --> 00:19:29,520
cultures so

499
00:19:36,070 --> 00:19:32,880
i just have a feeling like man the the

500
00:19:37,590 --> 00:19:36,080
the foreshadowing is is apparent right

501
00:19:40,710 --> 00:19:37,600
now

502
00:19:41,190 --> 00:19:40,720
right yeah what's also interesting is i

503
00:19:44,549 --> 00:19:41,200
am a

504
00:19:47,110 --> 00:19:44,559
very light-skinned female

505
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when i'm younger i'm more olive colored

506
00:19:51,270 --> 00:19:48,480
i have long dark hair

507
00:19:52,630 --> 00:19:51,280
and all of that but people never knew

508
00:19:54,390 --> 00:19:52,640
what i was

509
00:19:56,710 --> 00:19:54,400
you just described me i think that yeah

510
00:19:58,950 --> 00:19:56,720
just grabbed joe

511
00:20:00,390 --> 00:19:58,960
well i've seen you joe and that i feel

512
00:20:03,669 --> 00:20:00,400
like that might

513
00:20:04,470 --> 00:20:03,679
clearly make sense uh as i'm growing up

514
00:20:07,750 --> 00:20:04,480
again

515
00:20:10,390 --> 00:20:07,760
not only do i seem exotic to those i

516
00:20:11,590 --> 00:20:10,400
regions is what i lovingly call them

517
00:20:14,950 --> 00:20:11,600
yeah because they knew

518
00:20:17,830 --> 00:20:14,960
for instance my mom introduced tacos to

519
00:20:19,750 --> 00:20:17,840
the city we lived in those folks never

520
00:20:22,870 --> 00:20:19,760
they'd never experienced a taco

521
00:20:26,470 --> 00:20:22,880
back in right 60s late

522
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60s 70s so mom was you know

523
00:20:30,230 --> 00:20:28,480
introducing some of this kind of food to

524
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my friends who had never experienced

525
00:20:34,470 --> 00:20:31,280
anything like that

526
00:20:36,630 --> 00:20:34,480
i know it is so foreign

527
00:20:37,990 --> 00:20:36,640
i mean you're spreading actual love i

528
00:20:40,470 --> 00:20:38,000
feel like in iowa

529
00:20:42,710 --> 00:20:40,480
like the the concept of a taco is so

530
00:20:44,549 --> 00:20:42,720
foreign like even today like

531
00:20:46,830 --> 00:20:44,559
we have all this corn and we've never

532
00:20:50,950 --> 00:20:46,840
made a taco out of it

533
00:20:55,510 --> 00:20:52,950
right now it's probably all tacos and

534
00:20:57,510 --> 00:20:55,520
tamales but back in the day

535
00:20:59,270 --> 00:20:57,520
my friends that i've reconnected with 40

536
00:20:59,750 --> 00:20:59,280
years later have shared with me your

537
00:21:01,990 --> 00:20:59,760
mother

538
00:21:04,630 --> 00:21:02,000
introduced me to a taco and i'm like you

539
00:21:07,190 --> 00:21:04,640
didn't just say that

540
00:21:09,029 --> 00:21:07,200
that's cool but like you said sharing

541
00:21:09,669 --> 00:21:09,039
love we share love with food we're

542
00:21:12,710 --> 00:21:09,679
foodies

543
00:21:14,549 --> 00:21:12,720
so yeah oh yeah so

544
00:21:16,310 --> 00:21:14,559
this this i'm trying to get it off of me

545
00:21:16,950 --> 00:21:16,320
and back into chat a little bit but my

546
00:21:20,230 --> 00:21:16,960
story is

547
00:21:21,590 --> 00:21:20,240
so bizarre just in itself chad seems to

548
00:21:24,870 --> 00:21:21,600
have somewhat of a normal

549
00:21:27,029 --> 00:21:24,880
history mine everything but

550
00:21:29,510 --> 00:21:27,039
excuse me to the point of where when i

551
00:21:31,590 --> 00:21:29,520
say to you i don't allow photos

552
00:21:33,430 --> 00:21:31,600
i'll just say this prior to me

553
00:21:35,350 --> 00:21:33,440
determining what i could and could not

554
00:21:38,710 --> 00:21:35,360
put up with any longer in my life

555
00:21:43,990 --> 00:21:41,750
i have no baby pictures at all

556
00:21:44,870 --> 00:21:44,000
wow my pictures don't start until i'm

557
00:21:48,070 --> 00:21:44,880
two

558
00:21:49,990 --> 00:21:48,080
years old

559
00:21:51,750 --> 00:21:50,000
wow and then it seems like there's way

560
00:21:55,510 --> 00:21:51,760
too many of them

561
00:21:57,350 --> 00:21:55,520
my mom became one of the first her words

562
00:21:59,830 --> 00:21:57,360
now i've not tried to research it to

563
00:22:01,750 --> 00:21:59,840
prove it repeating her words

564
00:22:04,630 --> 00:22:01,760
was one of the first three women in the

565
00:22:08,310 --> 00:22:04,640
united states with a chauffeur's license

566
00:22:11,909 --> 00:22:08,320
back in 19 back in the late 50s

567
00:22:12,390 --> 00:22:11,919
early 60s for semis she right she got a

568
00:22:14,710 --> 00:22:12,400
guy

569
00:22:15,430 --> 00:22:14,720
teach her how to drive an 18-wheeler

570
00:22:20,149 --> 00:22:15,440
yeah

571
00:22:23,669 --> 00:22:20,159
and and she she became a driver

572
00:22:25,430 --> 00:22:23,679
and carried me with her for the first

573
00:22:27,990 --> 00:22:25,440
my understanding is five years of my

574
00:22:28,950 --> 00:22:28,000
life was raised on an 18-wheeler with my

575
00:22:32,470 --> 00:22:28,960
mother

576
00:22:35,270 --> 00:22:32,480
driving from coast to coast so

577
00:22:36,789 --> 00:22:35,280
when i tell you again a self-made woman

578
00:22:38,230 --> 00:22:36,799
she clearly was

579
00:22:40,230 --> 00:22:38,240
because her life then changed

580
00:22:44,149 --> 00:22:40,240
dramatically later

581
00:22:46,470 --> 00:22:44,159
but you know she was staying in movement

582
00:22:48,230 --> 00:22:46,480
she was keeping me in movement now again

583
00:22:51,830 --> 00:22:48,240
i have no memories of any of this

584
00:22:52,950 --> 00:22:51,840
right these are words so there's no baby

585
00:22:54,870 --> 00:22:52,960
pictures of me

586
00:22:56,070 --> 00:22:54,880
i have never seen an original birth

587
00:22:59,430 --> 00:22:56,080
certificate

588
00:23:01,350 --> 00:22:59,440
ever and then there's a very strange

589
00:23:02,950 --> 00:23:01,360
story later on if we have time and

590
00:23:03,590 --> 00:23:02,960
you're all still interested to share

591
00:23:06,630 --> 00:23:03,600
with you about

592
00:23:09,750 --> 00:23:06,640
yeah something happened to me

593
00:23:11,029 --> 00:23:09,760
with in this marriage with chad about my

594
00:23:14,470 --> 00:23:11,039
name

595
00:23:18,310 --> 00:23:14,480
it took on a whole different direction

596
00:23:20,870 --> 00:23:18,320
so yeah cool i would love to get i wanna

597
00:23:23,350 --> 00:23:20,880
okay you you can tell me if i'm like

598
00:23:24,549 --> 00:23:23,360
completely missing the mark or maybe if

599
00:23:26,149 --> 00:23:24,559
we're kind of heading in the

600
00:23:27,909 --> 00:23:26,159
right direction i kind of want to

601
00:23:30,070 --> 00:23:27,919
speculate a little bit here

602
00:23:32,549 --> 00:23:30,080
just from kind of hearing your story i'm

603
00:23:36,310 --> 00:23:32,559
getting this like

604
00:23:39,669 --> 00:23:36,320
i'm getting this kind of uh uh

605
00:23:41,190 --> 00:23:39,679
this mind control type vibe living next

606
00:23:44,310 --> 00:23:41,200
to a military base

607
00:23:45,110 --> 00:23:44,320
not knowing your childhood you're kind

608
00:23:48,470 --> 00:23:45,120
of like

609
00:23:49,990 --> 00:23:48,480
it's it's not saying split personality

610
00:23:52,789 --> 00:23:50,000
but it's almost like you have this

611
00:23:54,230 --> 00:23:52,799
other side of you that you don't know

612
00:23:56,870 --> 00:23:54,240
anything about

613
00:23:58,230 --> 00:23:56,880
and then your mom just so abruptly like

614
00:23:59,669 --> 00:23:58,240
picking you up and leaving

615
00:24:01,830 --> 00:23:59,679
it's like we're getting the hell out of

616
00:24:04,950 --> 00:24:01,840
here and that's that

617
00:24:08,070 --> 00:24:04,960
you know but still even even

618
00:24:09,190 --> 00:24:08,080
with that we're gonna move the powers

619
00:24:12,870 --> 00:24:09,200
that be

620
00:24:16,669 --> 00:24:12,880
know pretty much

621
00:24:18,470 --> 00:24:16,679
you know they know a lot so they know

622
00:24:21,029 --> 00:24:18,480
everything and they always

623
00:24:22,149 --> 00:24:21,039
have and when we get to this yeah go for

624
00:24:26,230 --> 00:24:22,159
it i'm sorry

625
00:24:29,750 --> 00:24:26,240
if i can interject maybe you know she

626
00:24:33,190 --> 00:24:29,760
tested so positive right

627
00:24:36,549 --> 00:24:33,200
in this test that she's just

628
00:24:37,110 --> 00:24:36,559
her mom her mom just said okay we need

629
00:24:40,710 --> 00:24:37,120
to

630
00:24:44,549 --> 00:24:40,720
move on because this was also the time

631
00:24:48,549 --> 00:24:44,559
of like the uh when

632
00:24:52,630 --> 00:24:48,559
that um oh it just escaped me

633
00:24:55,750 --> 00:24:52,640
um the when they were trying to

634
00:24:56,310 --> 00:24:55,760
focus on other countries oh what is it

635
00:24:59,190 --> 00:24:56,320
called

636
00:25:01,430 --> 00:24:59,200
oh yeah the uh um oh man now that you

637
00:25:05,590 --> 00:25:01,440
said that

638
00:25:09,590 --> 00:25:05,600
the uh not montauk the mk ultra okay

639
00:25:12,549 --> 00:25:09,600
yeah yeah the amk ultra the

640
00:25:13,430 --> 00:25:12,559
the remote viewing stuff viewing yep

641
00:25:18,789 --> 00:25:13,440
remote

642
00:25:22,310 --> 00:25:18,799
yeah because uh she you know alta also

643
00:25:26,310 --> 00:25:22,320
uh and her mom would tell me

644
00:25:28,549 --> 00:25:26,320
that she would have these dreams

645
00:25:29,830 --> 00:25:28,559
you know is like she would have these

646
00:25:33,510 --> 00:25:29,840
dreams

647
00:25:35,269 --> 00:25:33,520
of what's coming up and

648
00:25:37,110 --> 00:25:35,279
her mom would say no you can't talk

649
00:25:38,950 --> 00:25:37,120
about that you don't

650
00:25:41,029 --> 00:25:38,960
talk about it yeah that's it's

651
00:25:44,070 --> 00:25:41,039
classified yeah i mean that's that's

652
00:25:46,470 --> 00:25:44,080
that's classic like remote viewing

653
00:25:47,990 --> 00:25:46,480
mk ultra type stuff where you take

654
00:25:50,710 --> 00:25:48,000
children at a very young

655
00:25:52,630 --> 00:25:50,720
age you kind of manipulate them you

656
00:25:54,149 --> 00:25:52,640
start testing them for esp

657
00:25:56,950 --> 00:25:54,159
you start testing them to see if they

658
00:25:58,390 --> 00:25:56,960
can remote view seeing how you know how

659
00:26:00,470 --> 00:25:58,400
powerful

660
00:26:01,669 --> 00:26:00,480
they are you know and i mean this is

661
00:26:03,669 --> 00:26:01,679
like and they monitor you

662
00:26:04,789 --> 00:26:03,679
as you grow up and they monitor you as

663
00:26:06,870 --> 00:26:04,799
you get older

664
00:26:07,830 --> 00:26:06,880
you know and it's it's it's it's really

665
00:26:11,110 --> 00:26:07,840
kind of falling

666
00:26:11,750 --> 00:26:11,120
into that uh that realm and it's like

667
00:26:14,149 --> 00:26:11,760
you know

668
00:26:15,750 --> 00:26:14,159
most people on the outside would say

669
00:26:17,350 --> 00:26:15,760
that sounds ridiculous

670
00:26:19,350 --> 00:26:17,360
yeah the level of detail that you're

671
00:26:22,149 --> 00:26:19,360
able to go in and now that there's

672
00:26:22,710 --> 00:26:22,159
actual documents government documents

673
00:26:25,909 --> 00:26:22,720
that are

674
00:26:29,190 --> 00:26:25,919
out that you can find i mean it's it's

675
00:26:32,310 --> 00:26:29,200
you know it's it's it's a lot more uh

676
00:26:33,350 --> 00:26:32,320
uh just it's very very credible it's

677
00:26:35,510 --> 00:26:33,360
very possible

678
00:26:36,870 --> 00:26:35,520
you know well and you know i'll remind

679
00:26:39,590 --> 00:26:36,880
all of us what i can't get

680
00:26:41,830 --> 00:26:39,600
past is and not having my mom physically

681
00:26:43,750 --> 00:26:41,840
here to communicate with i'm left to

682
00:26:45,110 --> 00:26:43,760
whatever it is i'm able to do and people

683
00:26:46,789 --> 00:26:45,120
are always like well

684
00:26:49,029 --> 00:26:46,799
if you have all this and you can do that

685
00:26:51,110 --> 00:26:49,039
whatever why don't you just ask her

686
00:26:53,350 --> 00:26:51,120
well don't think i trust anything at

687
00:26:57,269 --> 00:26:53,360
this stage in my game because i don't

688
00:26:59,350 --> 00:26:57,279
yeah yeah understandable right don't but

689
00:27:00,310 --> 00:26:59,360
also take note of what i've never gotten

690
00:27:03,190 --> 00:27:00,320
past is

691
00:27:04,230 --> 00:27:03,200
her her claim that a craft came out of

692
00:27:05,909 --> 00:27:04,240
the sky

693
00:27:07,990 --> 00:27:05,919
and stopped her on the road while we

694
00:27:08,390 --> 00:27:08,000
were driving oh that's very apparent

695
00:27:13,029 --> 00:27:08,400
that's

696
00:27:14,630 --> 00:27:13,039
i'm i'm working through this story

697
00:27:17,830 --> 00:27:14,640
already like

698
00:27:18,470 --> 00:27:17,840
right the first thing that happens when

699
00:27:21,269 --> 00:27:18,480
you're

700
00:27:22,710 --> 00:27:21,279
the so the first thing is that your mom

701
00:27:24,630 --> 00:27:22,720
takes you away

702
00:27:25,750 --> 00:27:24,640
at six months old that's very young

703
00:27:28,230 --> 00:27:25,760
that's not i mean

704
00:27:28,950 --> 00:27:28,240
it happens but it's it's not you know

705
00:27:32,149 --> 00:27:28,960
all that

706
00:27:35,269 --> 00:27:32,159
common and then on your way out

707
00:27:38,310 --> 00:27:35,279
you get visited by who who knows what

708
00:27:38,630 --> 00:27:38,320
what it was right exactly and the fact

709
00:27:49,350 --> 00:27:38,640
is

710
00:27:52,549 --> 00:27:49,360
were copper miners and we lived in an

711
00:27:55,430 --> 00:27:52,559
environment that was all copper mining

712
00:27:56,710 --> 00:27:55,440
and turquoise turquoise and copper yeah

713
00:28:00,070 --> 00:27:56,720
nice

714
00:28:01,990 --> 00:28:00,080
her story is and she stuck to it was

715
00:28:03,750 --> 00:28:02,000
he went to work one day and she said

716
00:28:05,590 --> 00:28:03,760
that's enough and she claimed she packed

717
00:28:08,230 --> 00:28:05,600
me up and we got gone

718
00:28:09,029 --> 00:28:08,240
and when he came home from work we were

719
00:28:10,630 --> 00:28:09,039
gone

720
00:28:12,549 --> 00:28:10,640
and we never had another connection

721
00:28:14,549 --> 00:28:12,559
until i was 27.

722
00:28:15,590 --> 00:28:14,559
wow and then at 27 it took on a

723
00:28:17,750 --> 00:28:15,600
different path

724
00:28:20,310 --> 00:28:17,760
but the her reality or at least the

725
00:28:21,990 --> 00:28:20,320
reality she handed me was

726
00:28:23,430 --> 00:28:22,000
you know she waited until he went to

727
00:28:26,070 --> 00:28:23,440
work and

728
00:28:27,750 --> 00:28:26,080
she packed me up and she got gone yeah a

729
00:28:31,190 --> 00:28:27,760
lot easier to disappear

730
00:28:34,470 --> 00:28:31,200
in 19 um

731
00:28:37,990 --> 00:28:34,480
right but still but still like it's

732
00:28:39,669 --> 00:28:38,000
you know and what a way to do it learn

733
00:28:42,789 --> 00:28:39,679
how to drive an 18-wheeler

734
00:28:44,470 --> 00:28:42,799
yeah and you're a woman

735
00:28:46,149 --> 00:28:44,480
she claims she's the first of three

736
00:28:46,950 --> 00:28:46,159
women she claims she's the only one that

737
00:28:49,750 --> 00:28:46,960
had a baby

738
00:28:50,549 --> 00:28:49,760
and somehow there i can't deny that yeah

739
00:28:53,110 --> 00:28:50,559
because i just

740
00:28:54,470 --> 00:28:53,120
you know i well so that that is the

741
00:28:58,549 --> 00:28:54,480
beginnings

742
00:29:02,389 --> 00:28:58,559
of this crazy story and then

743
00:29:05,510 --> 00:29:02,399
iowa and then first years of college

744
00:29:07,990 --> 00:29:05,520
in iowa and then all of a sudden

745
00:29:09,830 --> 00:29:08,000
mom decides so as i was saying i'm

746
00:29:12,230 --> 00:29:09,840
ghosty connected

747
00:29:13,750 --> 00:29:12,240
i'm but i'm not living for that it was

748
00:29:16,549 --> 00:29:13,760
not something that i even

749
00:29:18,230 --> 00:29:16,559
to me it almost seemed natural to have a

750
00:29:19,750 --> 00:29:18,240
connection with the other side now i

751
00:29:20,789 --> 00:29:19,760
don't even know what i'm really saying

752
00:29:23,750 --> 00:29:20,799
because i just

753
00:29:24,950 --> 00:29:23,760
it's all just so bizarre but it seemed

754
00:29:27,029 --> 00:29:24,960
to happen to me

755
00:29:29,029 --> 00:29:27,039
and it just seemed to become and because

756
00:29:30,310 --> 00:29:29,039
mom was already tuned into something i

757
00:29:31,669 --> 00:29:30,320
wasn't aware of

758
00:29:33,830 --> 00:29:31,679
because i think she had a whole lot more

759
00:29:36,870 --> 00:29:33,840
knowledge than i still have

760
00:29:39,990 --> 00:29:36,880
yeah that's that did not surprise her

761
00:29:42,950 --> 00:29:40,000
she seemed almost pleased she loved

762
00:29:44,630 --> 00:29:42,960
that i had these abilities she my mother

763
00:29:46,310 --> 00:29:44,640
claimed she never had a dream

764
00:29:48,470 --> 00:29:46,320
now i've never met a human being that

765
00:29:50,630 --> 00:29:48,480
claimed they've never had a dream

766
00:29:52,830 --> 00:29:50,640
right but that's what she told me that

767
00:29:56,070 --> 00:29:52,840
that she had never had a dream

768
00:29:57,909 --> 00:29:56,080
wow do you dream

769
00:30:01,190 --> 00:29:57,919
that's the deal from the time i could

770
00:30:03,990 --> 00:30:01,200
start speaking i'm a prophetic dreamer

771
00:30:04,950 --> 00:30:04,000
and that's what chad was sharing with

772
00:30:08,549 --> 00:30:04,960
you a little bit ago

773
00:30:10,870 --> 00:30:08,559
is that you know these dreams would

774
00:30:12,310 --> 00:30:10,880
we use the word dream but i distinguish

775
00:30:15,590 --> 00:30:12,320
them as visions

776
00:30:17,669 --> 00:30:15,600
because i would they would happen enough

777
00:30:18,870 --> 00:30:17,679
not all the time but it would happen

778
00:30:21,750 --> 00:30:18,880
enough

779
00:30:21,990 --> 00:30:21,760
and so it was something she loved she

780
00:30:24,149 --> 00:30:22,000
loved

781
00:30:26,470 --> 00:30:24,159
everything about me in this regards

782
00:30:27,909 --> 00:30:26,480
because she claimed she had none of it

783
00:30:30,789 --> 00:30:27,919
as i said she claimed she never even

784
00:30:33,830 --> 00:30:30,799
dreamt and so

785
00:30:35,909 --> 00:30:33,840
um just you know that was that was

786
00:30:37,269 --> 00:30:35,919
just and i'd hear this kind of stuff

787
00:30:39,269 --> 00:30:37,279
from her and then i wouldn't know what

788
00:30:42,950 --> 00:30:39,279
to say it was like

789
00:30:45,990 --> 00:30:42,960
really really it's almost like

790
00:30:49,350 --> 00:30:46,000
it's almost like whatever cosmic power

791
00:30:52,950 --> 00:30:49,360
is out there didn't give

792
00:30:55,590 --> 00:30:52,960
your mother these certain things

793
00:30:56,389 --> 00:30:55,600
and it was supposed to be passed on to

794
00:30:59,669 --> 00:30:56,399
you

795
00:31:01,590 --> 00:30:59,679
at a very high high level

796
00:31:04,230 --> 00:31:01,600
and that's why she never experienced

797
00:31:06,870 --> 00:31:04,240
these dreams or visions or anything

798
00:31:07,269 --> 00:31:06,880
it was almost like she had the ability

799
00:31:09,590 --> 00:31:07,279
but

800
00:31:12,070 --> 00:31:09,600
wasn't able to use it and it was

801
00:31:15,509 --> 00:31:12,080
supposed to be passed on to you

802
00:31:19,590 --> 00:31:17,909
you know chad is saying something right

803
00:31:21,509 --> 00:31:19,600
now i'd like him to repeat because this

804
00:31:25,430 --> 00:31:21,519
is coming he's having a memory about

805
00:31:26,149 --> 00:31:25,440
i i believe now alta is a craft woman

806
00:31:28,230 --> 00:31:26,159
her mom

807
00:31:29,750 --> 00:31:28,240
was a craft woman i mean she brain

808
00:31:32,149 --> 00:31:29,760
tanned she

809
00:31:33,269 --> 00:31:32,159
made talking about native crafts right

810
00:31:36,070 --> 00:31:33,279
okay

811
00:31:36,710 --> 00:31:36,080
her mom was a crafts woman she could do

812
00:31:39,830 --> 00:31:36,720
anything

813
00:31:43,110 --> 00:31:39,840
she could

814
00:31:46,310 --> 00:31:43,120
oh how to can but

815
00:31:46,789 --> 00:31:46,320
well i chose nuts yeah i guess and but

816
00:31:51,029 --> 00:31:46,799
her

817
00:31:54,789 --> 00:31:51,039
gift

818
00:31:57,830 --> 00:31:54,799
of my dad had it a

819
00:31:59,110 --> 00:31:57,840
different like uh the common word of

820
00:32:02,710 --> 00:31:59,120
psyche

821
00:32:06,149 --> 00:32:02,720
are psychic or we hate that language but

822
00:32:09,669 --> 00:32:06,159
very different kind of

823
00:32:11,430 --> 00:32:09,679
thing again yeah and

824
00:32:23,190 --> 00:32:11,440
you know like she said she didn't feel

825
00:32:26,310 --> 00:32:24,789
you know i'm thinking about this is so

826
00:32:27,430 --> 00:32:26,320
interesting i'm thinking about this

827
00:32:29,190 --> 00:32:27,440
too that i don't know if you've ever

828
00:32:30,389 --> 00:32:29,200
thought about this but so your father

829
00:32:33,750 --> 00:32:30,399
your birth father was a

830
00:32:35,269 --> 00:32:33,760
copper and turquoise miner i mean

831
00:32:37,590 --> 00:32:35,279
right we all know that those two

832
00:32:40,710 --> 00:32:37,600
elements have a lot of energy

833
00:32:42,389 --> 00:32:40,720
right and then so it doesn't surprise me

834
00:32:44,789 --> 00:32:42,399
that someone who's

835
00:32:45,750 --> 00:32:44,799
i don't know if that gift was a birth

836
00:32:47,830 --> 00:32:45,760
thing or

837
00:32:49,990 --> 00:32:47,840
maybe just being around it as much as he

838
00:32:53,029 --> 00:32:50,000
was he acquired something that

839
00:32:55,750 --> 00:32:53,039
passed down genetically or i don't know

840
00:32:58,950 --> 00:32:55,760
just speculating but yeah well that's

841
00:33:04,870 --> 00:33:02,470
has an uncle that uh he was the last

842
00:33:05,669 --> 00:33:04,880
money express writer pony express writer

843
00:33:07,909 --> 00:33:05,679
if you've ever heard of

844
00:33:08,950 --> 00:33:07,919
the pony express oh yeah my uncle was

845
00:33:12,789 --> 00:33:08,960
the last one

846
00:33:13,190 --> 00:33:12,799
yeah wow i got to meet him i got to meet

847
00:33:15,909 --> 00:33:13,200
him

848
00:33:17,029 --> 00:33:15,919
he was like he was like five foot

849
00:33:21,990 --> 00:33:17,039
nothing

850
00:33:24,710 --> 00:33:22,000
the time i met him because he was

851
00:33:26,230 --> 00:33:24,720
elder yeah he was like yeah i mean and

852
00:33:29,590 --> 00:33:26,240
you can look him up on

853
00:33:30,070 --> 00:33:29,600
yeah the uh arizona highways arizona

854
00:33:33,669 --> 00:33:30,080
highways

855
00:33:36,630 --> 00:33:33,679
arizona national geographic geographic

856
00:33:38,470 --> 00:33:36,640
and like his name was uncle shorty is

857
00:33:40,549 --> 00:33:38,480
the way i got introduced

858
00:33:42,310 --> 00:33:40,559
if i might interject also well chad

859
00:33:42,789 --> 00:33:42,320
don't lose your thought chat i love that

860
00:33:45,029 --> 00:33:42,799
but

861
00:33:46,230 --> 00:33:45,039
i just wanted to interject uncle shorty

862
00:33:55,750 --> 00:33:46,240
who had a

863
00:34:00,230 --> 00:33:58,310
that happened to be almost in the same

864
00:34:00,870 --> 00:34:00,240
vicinity that travis walton was taking

865
00:34:04,230 --> 00:34:00,880
oh yeah

866
00:34:07,509 --> 00:34:04,240
whoa out in the snowflake area

867
00:34:08,069 --> 00:34:07,519
that's it exactly yeah wow actually show

868
00:34:11,589 --> 00:34:08,079
low

869
00:34:13,990 --> 00:34:11,599
show okay and the property was up

870
00:34:15,909 --> 00:34:14,000
up in that neck of the woods yeah and

871
00:34:17,669 --> 00:34:15,919
we're talking about pretty much the same

872
00:34:21,190 --> 00:34:17,679
vicinity that walton

873
00:34:24,149 --> 00:34:21,200
poof wow which i just

874
00:34:25,190 --> 00:34:24,159
think is just interesting to say the

875
00:34:28,389 --> 00:34:25,200
least oh absolutely

876
00:34:31,510 --> 00:34:28,399
yeah that's super interesting

877
00:34:32,710 --> 00:34:31,520
yeah wow okay we got uncle shorty in the

878
00:34:34,470 --> 00:34:32,720
building right now

879
00:34:35,990 --> 00:34:34,480
that's right we got a shorty in the

880
00:34:39,270 --> 00:34:36,000
building yeah uh uh

881
00:34:41,990 --> 00:34:39,280
alta and uh her dad took me up there

882
00:34:43,589 --> 00:34:42,000
uh once we went out there and we had a

883
00:34:46,149 --> 00:34:43,599
brief encounter my dad and i

884
00:34:48,470 --> 00:34:46,159
i'm like six two and this guy's like

885
00:34:51,589 --> 00:34:48,480
five something you know again

886
00:34:54,790 --> 00:34:51,599
you know this cabin was built to

887
00:34:57,670 --> 00:34:54,800
you know scale for him you know

888
00:34:58,310 --> 00:34:57,680
we're way up in i mean in the middle of

889
00:35:01,430 --> 00:34:58,320
nowhere

890
00:35:04,630 --> 00:35:01,440
we we left tucson and it was hot

891
00:35:06,950 --> 00:35:04,640
i mean i left we left with you know

892
00:35:08,310 --> 00:35:06,960
blue jeans and a t-shirt by the time we

893
00:35:12,630 --> 00:35:08,320
get up there in a blizzard

894
00:35:15,990 --> 00:35:12,640
we've got like three foot of snow yeah

895
00:35:18,710 --> 00:35:16,000
yeah yeah you know and was we just

896
00:35:19,510 --> 00:35:18,720
crazy it was crazy and it was cool

897
00:35:21,589 --> 00:35:19,520
fabulous

898
00:35:23,349 --> 00:35:21,599
and it at the time we knew nothing about

899
00:35:23,829 --> 00:35:23,359
a walton we didn't know anything about

900
00:35:27,030 --> 00:35:23,839
any of

901
00:35:27,750 --> 00:35:27,040
this yeah this was subject or anything

902
00:35:29,589 --> 00:35:27,760
like it

903
00:35:31,589 --> 00:35:29,599
we're trying to have early 90s meeting

904
00:35:32,550 --> 00:35:31,599
at the minds of a father and a daughter

905
00:35:35,430 --> 00:35:32,560
who

906
00:35:36,630 --> 00:35:35,440
didn't go well it didn't go well at all

907
00:35:39,510 --> 00:35:36,640
but we tried

908
00:35:40,390 --> 00:35:39,520
you know we we gave it our very best and

909
00:35:44,150 --> 00:35:40,400
uh

910
00:35:46,550 --> 00:35:44,160
so he's sort of a blip in the story

911
00:35:48,470 --> 00:35:46,560
but as chad was saying and where it came

912
00:35:51,510 --> 00:35:48,480
from as chad remembers

913
00:35:53,349 --> 00:35:51,520
he seemed to have that ability

914
00:35:55,109 --> 00:35:53,359
of being able to know the future wow

915
00:35:57,589 --> 00:35:55,119
yeah and that's

916
00:35:58,390 --> 00:35:57,599
where it's always felt like it came from

917
00:36:02,150 --> 00:35:58,400
him

918
00:36:05,190 --> 00:36:02,160
i said i'm his child and

919
00:36:05,750 --> 00:36:05,200
i'm named after him and i don't know do

920
00:36:08,150 --> 00:36:05,760
you just

921
00:36:10,150 --> 00:36:08,160
do you think maybe there was something

922
00:36:12,390 --> 00:36:10,160
that happened where your dad had

923
00:36:13,349 --> 00:36:12,400
projected the future and your mom was

924
00:36:15,510 --> 00:36:13,359
like

925
00:36:17,109 --> 00:36:15,520
that shit's wild i don't want to have

926
00:36:18,790 --> 00:36:17,119
anything to do with that

927
00:36:21,990 --> 00:36:18,800
me and the child are getting out of here

928
00:36:27,270 --> 00:36:22,000
whoa i wish it was that sounds

929
00:36:28,550 --> 00:36:27,280
wonderful movie but no he was a jerk

930
00:36:31,109 --> 00:36:28,560
hey that's that's the way it goes

931
00:36:33,030 --> 00:36:31,119
sometimes yeah yeah you know he was

932
00:36:35,270 --> 00:36:33,040
what i discovered he was not an he was

933
00:36:38,310 --> 00:36:35,280
not particularly a nice person

934
00:36:39,349 --> 00:36:38,320
and you know for whatever all that

935
00:36:42,550 --> 00:36:39,359
history is about

936
00:36:44,310 --> 00:36:42,560
who knows i'd i like your thought

937
00:36:45,829 --> 00:36:44,320
i'd like to claim it but i'm pretty sure

938
00:36:47,750 --> 00:36:45,839
that's not the case

939
00:36:50,069 --> 00:36:47,760
she had just finally decided she'd had

940
00:36:52,630 --> 00:36:50,079
enough and who knows again

941
00:36:53,670 --> 00:36:52,640
what all was truly involved like i said

942
00:36:55,750 --> 00:36:53,680
a craft

943
00:36:56,790 --> 00:36:55,760
who's talking about ufos coming out of

944
00:36:59,270 --> 00:36:56,800
the sky

945
00:37:01,349 --> 00:36:59,280
in broad daylight on the desert between

946
00:37:03,589 --> 00:37:01,359
a mother and a six-month-old baby

947
00:37:05,190 --> 00:37:03,599
driving the highway now i know that it's

948
00:37:06,069 --> 00:37:05,200
happened a lot more than anybody's

949
00:37:09,510 --> 00:37:06,079
claiming

950
00:37:11,910 --> 00:37:09,520
a lot more than anyone's but the reality

951
00:37:13,270 --> 00:37:11,920
that's not a story you ever hear too

952
00:37:16,710 --> 00:37:13,280
much about

953
00:37:17,430 --> 00:37:16,720
so who knows what is really going on

954
00:37:19,190 --> 00:37:17,440
here

955
00:37:20,710 --> 00:37:19,200
right this is just my version of the

956
00:37:22,390 --> 00:37:20,720
story and i'm sticking with it because

957
00:37:25,589 --> 00:37:22,400
it's all i know at this point

958
00:37:27,910 --> 00:37:25,599
i mean it's fascinating so i mean yeah

959
00:37:29,349 --> 00:37:27,920
it kind of makes me think uh i i know

960
00:37:31,990 --> 00:37:29,359
that you had listened

961
00:37:33,430 --> 00:37:32,000
uh to the michael schratt episode uh you

962
00:37:45,670 --> 00:37:33,440
were telling me absolutely

963
00:37:50,630 --> 00:37:48,310
it's like if you are like maybe being

964
00:37:53,349 --> 00:37:50,640
tracked by this

965
00:37:54,470 --> 00:37:53,359
shadow government entity right and you

966
00:37:56,870 --> 00:37:54,480
guys are leaving

967
00:37:57,750 --> 00:37:56,880
and all of a sudden you they're keeping

968
00:38:00,630 --> 00:37:57,760
an eye on you

969
00:38:02,310 --> 00:38:00,640
and then this thing lands in the middle

970
00:38:05,030 --> 00:38:02,320
of the road

971
00:38:05,910 --> 00:38:05,040
you know you know michael schratt really

972
00:38:07,510 --> 00:38:05,920
really pokes

973
00:38:09,829 --> 00:38:07,520
your your brain a little bit and it's

974
00:38:11,910 --> 00:38:09,839
like man is that something that

975
00:38:12,950 --> 00:38:11,920
we have the military and they're

976
00:38:15,670 --> 00:38:12,960
tracking you

977
00:38:16,550 --> 00:38:15,680
trying to stop you like i don't know

978
00:38:18,710 --> 00:38:16,560
it's just

979
00:38:20,630 --> 00:38:18,720
possibilities are endless yeah it could

980
00:38:25,990 --> 00:38:20,640
go

981
00:38:27,270 --> 00:38:26,000
no i'm just saying you're right endless

982
00:38:30,230 --> 00:38:27,280
possibilities

983
00:38:32,230 --> 00:38:30,240
yeah endless there there are but in my

984
00:38:35,270 --> 00:38:32,240
mind i boil it down to two

985
00:38:36,950 --> 00:38:35,280
two possible options and it is it

986
00:38:38,470 --> 00:38:36,960
doesn't have to be one or the other it

987
00:38:40,710 --> 00:38:38,480
could be both

988
00:38:41,829 --> 00:38:40,720
which one happened first i believe i

989
00:38:44,069 --> 00:38:41,839
mean most

990
00:38:45,430 --> 00:38:44,079
i think people that have gone through i

991
00:38:47,750 --> 00:38:45,440
mean this is the first i've

992
00:38:49,270 --> 00:38:47,760
heard firsthand of this happening as a

993
00:38:51,430 --> 00:38:49,280
young child

994
00:38:53,589 --> 00:38:51,440
but you know that definitely felt like a

995
00:38:56,390 --> 00:38:53,599
more of a military operation with

996
00:38:57,750 --> 00:38:56,400
the esp testing but i'm willing to bet

997
00:38:59,430 --> 00:38:57,760
that that first experience you had when

998
00:39:03,589 --> 00:38:59,440
you were six months old

999
00:39:06,150 --> 00:39:03,599
was uh et encounter and that's why

1000
00:39:07,030 --> 00:39:06,160
the military was interested it in you

1001
00:39:09,030 --> 00:39:07,040
guys and

1002
00:39:10,390 --> 00:39:09,040
you don't have to be enrolled into any

1003
00:39:13,109 --> 00:39:10,400
kind of program

1004
00:39:13,510 --> 00:39:13,119
to be targeted by i would imagine right

1005
00:39:17,589 --> 00:39:13,520
yeah

1006
00:39:20,470 --> 00:39:17,599
on our radar that there was a car

1007
00:39:22,470 --> 00:39:20,480
and a craft and there was some weird

1008
00:39:25,349 --> 00:39:22,480
[\h__\h] going on so we're gonna like

1009
00:39:26,069 --> 00:39:25,359
follow them wherever they go uh and that

1010
00:39:28,150 --> 00:39:26,079
to me that

1011
00:39:30,310 --> 00:39:28,160
kind of gives validity in a reason why

1012
00:39:32,390 --> 00:39:30,320
your mother wanted to move around

1013
00:39:35,270 --> 00:39:32,400
and not stay in one place in the first

1014
00:39:38,470 --> 00:39:35,280
place she had a motivation

1015
00:39:39,829 --> 00:39:38,480
crazy her history that i was able to

1016
00:39:43,109 --> 00:39:39,839
discover

1017
00:39:46,069 --> 00:39:43,119
is so bizarre that

1018
00:39:46,870 --> 00:39:46,079
meaning and i'll shorten that story she

1019
00:39:50,069 --> 00:39:46,880
my mother had

1020
00:39:52,870 --> 00:39:50,079
polio oh wow then she was

1021
00:39:54,550 --> 00:39:52,880
when she was uh she had it i think for

1022
00:39:56,870 --> 00:39:54,560
like 10 years

1023
00:39:59,990 --> 00:39:56,880
she was in the shriners hospital for

1024
00:40:02,950 --> 00:40:00,000
children with polio in san francisco

1025
00:40:05,030 --> 00:40:02,960
now her story and she stuck with it and

1026
00:40:08,150 --> 00:40:05,040
i can't counteract it because i never

1027
00:40:09,589 --> 00:40:08,160
met her mother or her father i know none

1028
00:40:12,309 --> 00:40:09,599
of her people

1029
00:40:13,270 --> 00:40:12,319
um her story was her mother had married

1030
00:40:15,270 --> 00:40:13,280
money

1031
00:40:16,630 --> 00:40:15,280
in northern california and i think this

1032
00:40:19,910 --> 00:40:16,640
is interesting in the

1033
00:40:21,109 --> 00:40:19,920
boom the bohemian grove area was my

1034
00:40:22,390 --> 00:40:21,119
mother's child

1035
00:40:25,750 --> 00:40:22,400
that was her childhood

1036
00:40:31,750 --> 00:40:29,190
she came from that area as a as a child

1037
00:40:33,349 --> 00:40:31,760
that's not a good place to be a child i

1038
00:40:35,670 --> 00:40:33,359
wouldn't think so

1039
00:40:37,510 --> 00:40:35,680
and now there was no discussion about

1040
00:40:40,230 --> 00:40:37,520
the bohemian grove

1041
00:40:41,109 --> 00:40:40,240
with my mother and i or any of that i'm

1042
00:40:44,150 --> 00:40:41,119
just telling you

1043
00:40:47,910 --> 00:40:44,160
all my research sense has shown me

1044
00:40:50,710 --> 00:40:47,920
that was the area she was raised in and

1045
00:40:53,349 --> 00:40:50,720
then she contracted polio when i think

1046
00:40:55,270 --> 00:40:53,359
she was around 10

1047
00:40:57,270 --> 00:40:55,280
9 or 10 which is interesting because

1048
00:40:59,510 --> 00:40:57,280
that's my first memory age

1049
00:41:00,870 --> 00:40:59,520
she's now put in now she has a mother

1050
00:41:03,589 --> 00:41:00,880
who married money

1051
00:41:05,349 --> 00:41:03,599
who my mom claims hated her wanted

1052
00:41:07,510 --> 00:41:05,359
nothing to do with her

1053
00:41:09,349 --> 00:41:07,520
so my mother claims that i i'm sorry to

1054
00:41:10,069 --> 00:41:09,359
get into all this really deep personal

1055
00:41:12,470 --> 00:41:10,079
but it's

1056
00:41:13,589 --> 00:41:12,480
it goes right along with the mystery of

1057
00:41:16,150 --> 00:41:13,599
all the rest of this

1058
00:41:18,630 --> 00:41:16,160
yeah absolutely her story her story and

1059
00:41:20,710 --> 00:41:18,640
i've done as much research as i can

1060
00:41:22,069 --> 00:41:20,720
on some of these records that i've

1061
00:41:24,790 --> 00:41:22,079
managed to hang on to

1062
00:41:25,430 --> 00:41:24,800
that after she died i discovered one of

1063
00:41:27,750 --> 00:41:25,440
these

1064
00:41:29,829 --> 00:41:27,760
records is my mother legally changed her

1065
00:41:31,750 --> 00:41:29,839
name when she was 14.

1066
00:41:33,750 --> 00:41:31,760
she became a ward of the state her

1067
00:41:37,190 --> 00:41:33,760
mother gave up all

1068
00:41:40,309 --> 00:41:37,200
rights to her once she contracted polio

1069
00:41:43,270 --> 00:41:40,319
and basically became a ward of the state

1070
00:41:45,670 --> 00:41:43,280
so my mom apparently back in the 40s

1071
00:41:47,750 --> 00:41:45,680
this would have been the 40s

1072
00:41:49,910 --> 00:41:47,760
had the ability or she had the legal

1073
00:41:53,349 --> 00:41:49,920
right to change her name

1074
00:41:55,670 --> 00:41:53,359
so she did so when she's around

1075
00:41:57,750 --> 00:41:55,680
i don't know what it was 14 i guess

1076
00:42:02,950 --> 00:41:57,760
something like that

1077
00:42:05,510 --> 00:42:02,960
and uh so her first name is

1078
00:42:06,230 --> 00:42:05,520
her birth name was not the name i knew

1079
00:42:12,309 --> 00:42:06,240
her by

1080
00:42:12,950 --> 00:42:12,319
because she legally changed it so that

1081
00:42:15,270 --> 00:42:12,960
means

1082
00:42:16,230 --> 00:42:15,280
everything changed getting records

1083
00:42:18,710 --> 00:42:16,240
getting access

1084
00:42:19,510 --> 00:42:18,720
that doesn't exist i'll tell you to this

1085
00:42:22,470 --> 00:42:19,520
day

1086
00:42:24,230 --> 00:42:22,480
i've tried so many times to deal with a

1087
00:42:27,510 --> 00:42:24,240
man who's become quite

1088
00:42:30,870 --> 00:42:27,520
phenomenal in this arena called

1089
00:42:33,430 --> 00:42:30,880
grant cameron oh wow right

1090
00:42:34,069 --> 00:42:33,440
grant cameron starts with telling the

1091
00:42:35,750 --> 00:42:34,079
world

1092
00:42:37,109 --> 00:42:35,760
he's involved in trying to understand

1093
00:42:38,230 --> 00:42:37,119
all these shenanigans with the

1094
00:42:41,510 --> 00:42:38,240
presidents

1095
00:42:42,790 --> 00:42:41,520
and the politicians and ufos well now

1096
00:42:44,870 --> 00:42:42,800
he's moved on

1097
00:42:46,150 --> 00:42:44,880
from that level he's now into all this

1098
00:42:49,990 --> 00:42:46,160
consciousness

1099
00:42:52,790 --> 00:42:50,000
and so on and i contacted him

1100
00:42:53,670 --> 00:42:52,800
many years ago i don't understand

1101
00:42:56,390 --> 00:42:53,680
computers

1102
00:42:57,190 --> 00:42:56,400
at all there's nothing tech about me i'm

1103
00:42:59,589 --> 00:42:57,200
mental

1104
00:43:01,589 --> 00:42:59,599
i am not physical when it comes to i

1105
00:43:03,349 --> 00:43:01,599
think computers are archaic to be quite

1106
00:43:05,670 --> 00:43:03,359
honest with you

1107
00:43:07,750 --> 00:43:05,680
and i always have i don't understand why

1108
00:43:10,829 --> 00:43:07,760
we're not talking to each other's minds

1109
00:43:11,750 --> 00:43:10,839
yeah there will be so much easier

1110
00:43:13,510 --> 00:43:11,760
absolutely right

1111
00:43:16,870 --> 00:43:13,520
skype still hasn't figured out how to

1112
00:43:21,910 --> 00:43:20,230
archaic so you know i use that as a good

1113
00:43:22,950 --> 00:43:21,920
excuse i don't even hardly know how to

1114
00:43:25,030 --> 00:43:22,960
turn a computer on

1115
00:43:26,230 --> 00:43:25,040
and i never had kids and i hear you need

1116
00:43:28,950 --> 00:43:26,240
one of those

1117
00:43:29,750 --> 00:43:28,960
to know how to operate these things yeah

1118
00:43:33,670 --> 00:43:29,760
yeah

1119
00:43:34,470 --> 00:43:33,680
don't know if at d has that program yet

1120
00:43:35,910 --> 00:43:34,480
but maybe

1121
00:43:37,589 --> 00:43:35,920
i'll maybe google's working on that

1122
00:43:40,790 --> 00:43:37,599
program if you buy an ipad you get a

1123
00:43:42,470 --> 00:43:40,800
free kid

1124
00:43:44,630 --> 00:43:42,480
i'll let you keep it i don't have one of

1125
00:43:45,910 --> 00:43:44,640
them ipad things as long as we can just

1126
00:43:46,390 --> 00:43:45,920
put them in the closet and they don't

1127
00:43:49,030 --> 00:43:46,400
eat

1128
00:43:52,829 --> 00:43:49,040
yeah well you you can trade them in

1129
00:43:52,839 --> 00:43:57,349
yeah

1130
00:44:02,950 --> 00:44:00,950
so you know with that said i in my very

1131
00:44:06,069 --> 00:44:02,960
feeble way

1132
00:44:07,829 --> 00:44:06,079
sent a email back in the day and this

1133
00:44:10,069 --> 00:44:07,839
was you know many years ago before he

1134
00:44:12,790 --> 00:44:10,079
had shifted to the consciousness kind of

1135
00:44:15,750 --> 00:44:12,800
studies and all he's involved with now

1136
00:44:17,510 --> 00:44:15,760
and i and he and he kindly and i

1137
00:44:21,510 --> 00:44:17,520
couldn't believe he responded to me

1138
00:44:24,069 --> 00:44:21,520
it was short not sweet and very direct

1139
00:44:25,510 --> 00:44:24,079
but i'm extremely grateful and if

1140
00:44:27,670 --> 00:44:25,520
anybody hears this

1141
00:44:29,430 --> 00:44:27,680
interview tonight and hangs in here with

1142
00:44:32,230 --> 00:44:29,440
me battling on like i

1143
00:44:34,150 --> 00:44:32,240
am i'd like to just say publicly again

1144
00:44:36,470 --> 00:44:34,160
how grateful i am that he at least

1145
00:44:37,829 --> 00:44:36,480
responded because so many once they get

1146
00:44:40,790 --> 00:44:37,839
a name in this field

1147
00:44:41,829 --> 00:44:40,800
don't oh yeah we all we know all too

1148
00:44:44,309 --> 00:44:41,839
well

1149
00:44:46,230 --> 00:44:44,319
yeah yeah we all do we don't even have

1150
00:44:48,069 --> 00:44:46,240
to waste our energy with that

1151
00:44:49,990 --> 00:44:48,079
so the beauty of brent cameron even

1152
00:44:52,150 --> 00:44:50,000
though he won't deal with me now because

1153
00:44:53,670 --> 00:44:52,160
i can't get through to him because i

1154
00:44:55,990 --> 00:44:53,680
don't know what i'm doing

1155
00:44:58,150 --> 00:44:56,000
he did i asked him i told him what i

1156
00:44:59,109 --> 00:44:58,160
shared with you i was tested for esp at

1157
00:45:02,069 --> 00:44:59,119
fitzsimmons

1158
00:45:03,349 --> 00:45:02,079
hospital in aurora colorado sir how do i

1159
00:45:06,230 --> 00:45:03,359
get those records

1160
00:45:07,670 --> 00:45:06,240
what do i have to do to get those

1161
00:45:11,349 --> 00:45:07,680
records

1162
00:45:12,950 --> 00:45:11,359
and he responded in a very short

1163
00:45:14,390 --> 00:45:12,960
it's been several years ago but i think

1164
00:45:17,670 --> 00:45:14,400
it was a one sentence

1165
00:45:21,190 --> 00:45:17,680
good luck like that's not gonna happen

1166
00:45:24,390 --> 00:45:21,200
good luck he made it very clear

1167
00:45:28,550 --> 00:45:24,400
he had no words of wisdom for me at all

1168
00:45:30,309 --> 00:45:28,560
on that subject wow wow well

1169
00:45:31,990 --> 00:45:30,319
he might have he might have been a

1170
00:45:34,309 --> 00:45:32,000
little protective of

1171
00:45:36,630 --> 00:45:34,319
you know who's intercepting this email

1172
00:45:37,829 --> 00:45:36,640
uh at his level at his level you know he

1173
00:45:40,230 --> 00:45:37,839
can never be too careful

1174
00:45:41,990 --> 00:45:40,240
protecting his sources and things like

1175
00:45:43,270 --> 00:45:42,000
that it's almost like a conversation you

1176
00:45:45,910 --> 00:45:43,280
have to have like

1177
00:45:47,910 --> 00:45:45,920
in person sometimes or on the ufo garage

1178
00:45:49,589 --> 00:45:47,920
podcast or on the ufo garage podcast

1179
00:45:51,750 --> 00:45:49,599
somebody might hear it

1180
00:45:54,069 --> 00:45:51,760
yeah exactly michael stratt seems to be

1181
00:45:55,670 --> 00:45:54,079
pretty good at getting those documents

1182
00:45:57,270 --> 00:45:55,680
right you know and this is why i

1183
00:45:59,829 --> 00:45:57,280
continue to

1184
00:46:01,030 --> 00:45:59,839
against all odds reach to folks like

1185
00:46:03,670 --> 00:46:01,040
yourself

1186
00:46:05,109 --> 00:46:03,680
to all that will hear us to give us

1187
00:46:07,109 --> 00:46:05,119
either a voice

1188
00:46:09,030 --> 00:46:07,119
or at least allow me to ask these

1189
00:46:10,470 --> 00:46:09,040
questions because i'm praying that

1190
00:46:13,430 --> 00:46:10,480
somebody out there

1191
00:46:13,990 --> 00:46:13,440
is going to hear this and help you know

1192
00:46:15,829 --> 00:46:14,000
i hear

1193
00:46:17,910 --> 00:46:15,839
all the people i even heard you speaking

1194
00:46:19,349 --> 00:46:17,920
earlier to you did a show and i didn't

1195
00:46:21,589 --> 00:46:19,359
hear the whole thing

1196
00:46:22,790 --> 00:46:21,599
with a woman who is an experiencer and

1197
00:46:24,470 --> 00:46:22,800
she sent you her book

1198
00:46:26,230 --> 00:46:24,480
a dirty little secret i think is the

1199
00:46:29,510 --> 00:46:26,240
name of the book aaron montgomery yeah

1200
00:46:30,870 --> 00:46:29,520
yes so i you know i only heard the very

1201
00:46:33,430 --> 00:46:30,880
beginning of that

1202
00:46:34,069 --> 00:46:33,440
but what i do remember recalling about

1203
00:46:36,630 --> 00:46:34,079
all of that

1204
00:46:38,390 --> 00:46:36,640
was i just sort of lost my train of

1205
00:46:40,950 --> 00:46:38,400
thought like chad just did earlier on

1206
00:46:44,390 --> 00:46:42,710
oh she was talking about how she's

1207
00:46:45,109 --> 00:46:44,400
involved in all these support groups and

1208
00:46:47,589 --> 00:46:45,119
so on

1209
00:46:50,069 --> 00:46:47,599
let me just offer to you all that's not

1210
00:46:52,390 --> 00:46:50,079
chad and i have never had that benefit

1211
00:46:53,589 --> 00:46:52,400
we have been in this game now for a very

1212
00:46:55,430 --> 00:46:53,599
long time

1213
00:46:57,510 --> 00:46:55,440
we had never written a book neither one

1214
00:46:59,190 --> 00:46:57,520
of us know how to write nor were we ever

1215
00:47:02,550 --> 00:46:59,200
interested in any of that

1216
00:47:04,390 --> 00:47:02,560
right we we reached out and i have

1217
00:47:08,390 --> 00:47:04,400
reached out consistently

1218
00:47:11,430 --> 00:47:08,400
since 2002

1219
00:47:12,230 --> 00:47:11,440
is when i started this to get help to

1220
00:47:15,750 --> 00:47:12,240
get help

1221
00:47:16,870 --> 00:47:15,760
yeah that has not happened not only has

1222
00:47:19,750 --> 00:47:16,880
that not happened

1223
00:47:21,750 --> 00:47:19,760
we have been treated abhorrently and

1224
00:47:24,069 --> 00:47:21,760
it's cost me a lot of money

1225
00:47:25,750 --> 00:47:24,079
and so because of that because and we're

1226
00:47:27,589 --> 00:47:25,760
talking about with big names

1227
00:47:29,670 --> 00:47:27,599
with big names out there because it's

1228
00:47:32,630 --> 00:47:29,680
turned into this cottage industry

1229
00:47:34,549 --> 00:47:32,640
so we just don't understand because i'm

1230
00:47:37,109 --> 00:47:34,559
carrying objects in my body

1231
00:47:38,069 --> 00:47:37,119
that nobody is interested in and i can't

1232
00:47:42,069 --> 00:47:38,079
comprehend that

1233
00:47:44,630 --> 00:47:42,079
about all the rest of it

1234
00:47:46,390 --> 00:47:44,640
i cannot believe and i'm trying to find

1235
00:47:48,230 --> 00:47:46,400
my gratefulness because maybe we are

1236
00:47:50,630 --> 00:47:48,240
being spared

1237
00:47:51,430 --> 00:47:50,640
of god knows what could happen to me

1238
00:47:54,150 --> 00:47:51,440
that that's

1239
00:47:55,430 --> 00:47:54,160
that's a good way of of looking at it i

1240
00:47:57,750 --> 00:47:55,440
i mean i'm sorry to

1241
00:47:59,349 --> 00:47:57,760
interrupt or anything but like these two

1242
00:48:01,829 --> 00:47:59,359
oh no no

1243
00:48:02,710 --> 00:48:01,839
we're so me and joe are so new into this

1244
00:48:03,990 --> 00:48:02,720
this whole

1245
00:48:05,750 --> 00:48:04,000
environment like we've always been

1246
00:48:07,430 --> 00:48:05,760
interested but now that we have a

1247
00:48:09,190 --> 00:48:07,440
platform and we actually have people

1248
00:48:09,829 --> 00:48:09,200
that listen to our show like we've been

1249
00:48:12,309 --> 00:48:09,839
able to

1250
00:48:12,870 --> 00:48:12,319
to go to a few conferences and and stuff

1251
00:48:15,190 --> 00:48:12,880
like that

1252
00:48:16,549 --> 00:48:15,200
yeah it's been really fun also we've

1253
00:48:17,430 --> 00:48:16,559
kind of gotten to see the other side

1254
00:48:20,549 --> 00:48:17,440
where like

1255
00:48:21,270 --> 00:48:20,559
there are so many stories when you are

1256
00:48:24,150 --> 00:48:21,280
in person

1257
00:48:25,910 --> 00:48:24,160
and and get to meet these people uh and

1258
00:48:28,470 --> 00:48:25,920
they want to share their story

1259
00:48:29,349 --> 00:48:28,480
i i want to tell everybody yes please i

1260
00:48:33,030 --> 00:48:29,359
want to

1261
00:48:37,109 --> 00:48:33,040
possible please be on our show

1262
00:48:40,390 --> 00:48:37,119
and then the time passes and then you

1263
00:48:42,150 --> 00:48:40,400
stuff you know like it's just things

1264
00:48:43,910 --> 00:48:42,160
come and things go it's always been kind

1265
00:48:44,549 --> 00:48:43,920
of a passive thing for us it's not that

1266
00:48:46,230 --> 00:48:44,559
we're

1267
00:48:48,309 --> 00:48:46,240
you know if if there's a listener out

1268
00:48:50,630 --> 00:48:48,319
there that that's

1269
00:48:51,829 --> 00:48:50,640
talked to us in uh in san francisco i

1270
00:48:53,270 --> 00:48:51,839
know there was a couple people that i

1271
00:48:55,430 --> 00:48:53,280
really wanted to hear their story but

1272
00:48:56,790 --> 00:48:55,440
i never got their info you know so

1273
00:48:59,270 --> 00:48:56,800
that's kind of the thing that

1274
00:49:00,230 --> 00:48:59,280
i guess my point is is that there are so

1275
00:49:02,390 --> 00:49:00,240
many stories

1276
00:49:03,270 --> 00:49:02,400
i can't imagine if your name is actually

1277
00:49:05,030 --> 00:49:03,280
known

1278
00:49:06,710 --> 00:49:05,040
how many stories they hear because we

1279
00:49:08,870 --> 00:49:06,720
are not like nobodies and

1280
00:49:10,150 --> 00:49:08,880
we've got to talk to so many people and

1281
00:49:11,030 --> 00:49:10,160
there's so many people we haven't gotten

1282
00:49:14,549 --> 00:49:11,040
to hear their

1283
00:49:16,309 --> 00:49:14,559
full story from so maybe there's there's

1284
00:49:18,470 --> 00:49:16,319
some kind of uh

1285
00:49:20,150 --> 00:49:18,480
you know maybe it's i i don't think i

1286
00:49:23,510 --> 00:49:20,160
don't think the the

1287
00:49:25,910 --> 00:49:23,520
um the community as a whole is a

1288
00:49:27,510 --> 00:49:25,920
is it is is doing it on purpose i think

1289
00:49:29,109 --> 00:49:27,520
it's just what happens

1290
00:49:31,589 --> 00:49:29,119
when you when you've experienced

1291
00:49:33,510 --> 00:49:31,599
something let me interject this

1292
00:49:35,750 --> 00:49:33,520
because what has happened to us i'm not

1293
00:49:39,510 --> 00:49:35,760
hearing is happening to anyone else

1294
00:49:41,750 --> 00:49:39,520
and that i can't comprehend such as

1295
00:49:43,349 --> 00:49:41,760
the first person that was getting

1296
00:49:45,349 --> 00:49:43,359
involved in researching us

1297
00:49:47,430 --> 00:49:45,359
that claims they have a support group

1298
00:49:49,910 --> 00:49:47,440
and are very well known

1299
00:49:51,750 --> 00:49:49,920
came to our home and he brought his

1300
00:49:54,950 --> 00:49:51,760
assistant with him

1301
00:49:56,829 --> 00:49:54,960
well that assistant was his mistress he

1302
00:49:59,670 --> 00:49:56,839
left his wife at home

1303
00:50:02,790 --> 00:49:59,680
what that's one thing there's a whole

1304
00:50:05,589 --> 00:50:02,800
lot to that and i want trouble

1305
00:50:06,710 --> 00:50:05,599
uh somebody else that is world known as

1306
00:50:09,750 --> 00:50:06,720
a regressionist

1307
00:50:13,750 --> 00:50:09,760
took 300 cash out of my hand

1308
00:50:17,109 --> 00:50:13,760
and abused me i never got the regression

1309
00:50:19,750 --> 00:50:17,119
what i'm i'm suggesting to you

1310
00:50:20,150 --> 00:50:19,760
the things that we have experienced has

1311
00:50:23,510 --> 00:50:20,160
been

1312
00:50:27,190 --> 00:50:23,520
mind-blowing by this community

1313
00:50:30,309 --> 00:50:27,200
and it is like really we're

1314
00:50:31,910 --> 00:50:30,319
really all we are interested in we don't

1315
00:50:33,750 --> 00:50:31,920
care who you're sleeping with

1316
00:50:35,349 --> 00:50:33,760
what you're doing that's none of our

1317
00:50:37,990 --> 00:50:35,359
business you don't care

1318
00:50:38,470 --> 00:50:38,000
but don't bring it to my home and then

1319
00:50:41,270 --> 00:50:38,480
don't

1320
00:50:43,190 --> 00:50:41,280
use that as some way to get the world to

1321
00:50:45,030 --> 00:50:43,200
not pay attention to us

1322
00:50:46,710 --> 00:50:45,040
yeah there's a lot of there's a lot of

1323
00:50:49,910 --> 00:50:46,720
this that's happened to us

1324
00:50:50,630 --> 00:50:49,920
and because we have truths that i think

1325
00:50:53,670 --> 00:50:50,640
they're too

1326
00:50:56,390 --> 00:50:53,680
afraid that we would out or suggest or

1327
00:50:57,910 --> 00:50:56,400
tell there's been a lot of work behind

1328
00:51:00,870 --> 00:50:57,920
not that chad and alta are

1329
00:51:03,270 --> 00:51:00,880
that important but on some level we're

1330
00:51:05,190 --> 00:51:03,280
important enough to have been silenced

1331
00:51:06,829 --> 00:51:05,200
that's what i do know yeah i mean

1332
00:51:10,069 --> 00:51:06,839
there's there is

1333
00:51:12,870 --> 00:51:10,079
absolutely um

1334
00:51:13,430 --> 00:51:12,880
i agree with you 100 there are a lot of

1335
00:51:15,990 --> 00:51:13,440
like

1336
00:51:17,030 --> 00:51:16,000
predatory [\h__\h] that are in this

1337
00:51:19,190 --> 00:51:17,040
field

1338
00:51:21,910 --> 00:51:19,200
and there's a lot of people who are

1339
00:51:22,390 --> 00:51:21,920
really just in it to make a quick buck

1340
00:51:24,950 --> 00:51:22,400
and

1341
00:51:25,750 --> 00:51:24,960
yeah i mean you know that's that is a

1342
00:51:28,230 --> 00:51:25,760
very

1343
00:51:28,950 --> 00:51:28,240
uh you know it's a it's a really big

1344
00:51:31,190 --> 00:51:28,960
bummer

1345
00:51:32,470 --> 00:51:31,200
um we have a really good friend uh

1346
00:51:37,030 --> 00:51:32,480
lauren finton

1347
00:51:40,390 --> 00:51:37,040
and yes yes and she is

1348
00:51:41,510 --> 00:51:40,400
she's really awesome uh at just calling

1349
00:51:45,510 --> 00:51:41,520
people's [\h__\h]

1350
00:51:47,190 --> 00:51:45,520
you know um you know i don't know

1351
00:51:49,670 --> 00:51:47,200
i'm not sure where you guys are on like

1352
00:51:50,069 --> 00:51:49,680
the whole like getting some help or like

1353
00:51:52,470 --> 00:51:50,079
just

1354
00:51:53,990 --> 00:51:52,480
having somebody to kind of talk to you

1355
00:51:55,750 --> 00:51:54,000
um but i mean if

1356
00:51:57,349 --> 00:51:55,760
if y'all are willing to i'd like to get

1357
00:52:00,150 --> 00:51:57,359
like yours email and stuff

1358
00:52:01,589 --> 00:52:00,160
we we uh we have a guy that you know

1359
00:52:04,950 --> 00:52:01,599
we're working with who

1360
00:52:06,390 --> 00:52:04,960
who just helps people all the time i

1361
00:52:09,430 --> 00:52:06,400
mean he's got people from

1362
00:52:12,549 --> 00:52:09,440
all over the world that

1363
00:52:14,710 --> 00:52:12,559
he helps and it's an everyday thing

1364
00:52:15,589 --> 00:52:14,720
he doesn't have a book he doesn't make

1365
00:52:17,589 --> 00:52:15,599
any money

1366
00:52:20,150 --> 00:52:17,599
he lives out in a trailer in the middle

1367
00:52:22,549 --> 00:52:20,160
of nowhere and i mean the guy

1368
00:52:24,069 --> 00:52:22,559
you know this stuff happened to him and

1369
00:52:26,950 --> 00:52:24,079
you know he noticed you know

1370
00:52:28,150 --> 00:52:26,960
his big thing is somebody took the time

1371
00:52:30,309 --> 00:52:28,160
to help him

1372
00:52:31,990 --> 00:52:30,319
and the only payment that that person

1373
00:52:35,109 --> 00:52:32,000
wanted was for him to

1374
00:52:37,990 --> 00:52:35,119
repay the help that he got and so now he

1375
00:52:39,190 --> 00:52:38,000
lives his life trying to help people as

1376
00:52:41,190 --> 00:52:39,200
much as possible

1377
00:52:42,390 --> 00:52:41,200
you know are you comfortable to share

1378
00:52:44,870 --> 00:52:42,400
his name or

1379
00:52:47,030 --> 00:52:44,880
yeah it's eric mitchell eric mitchell

1380
00:52:49,190 --> 00:52:47,040
okay nope that's not a name i don't know

1381
00:52:52,230 --> 00:52:49,200
and i love that i don't know that name

1382
00:52:54,470 --> 00:52:52,240
yes and the best dude ever

1383
00:52:55,750 --> 00:52:54,480
it's on purpose i promise you it's on

1384
00:52:57,589 --> 00:52:55,760
purpose

1385
00:52:59,750 --> 00:52:57,599
um and we've we've said this on the

1386
00:53:03,190 --> 00:52:59,760
podcast we met eric

1387
00:53:05,990 --> 00:53:03,200
he's got a fascinating story we met him

1388
00:53:07,750 --> 00:53:06,000
uh in san francisco and we just became

1389
00:53:11,030 --> 00:53:07,760
really really good friends

1390
00:53:14,069 --> 00:53:11,040
and he's getting ready to tell his story

1391
00:53:15,190 --> 00:53:14,079
and so ben and i volunteered to help him

1392
00:53:17,190 --> 00:53:15,200
um we're trying to put a little

1393
00:53:20,549 --> 00:53:17,200
documentary together for him

1394
00:53:24,309 --> 00:53:20,559
and and things like that but he is the

1395
00:53:27,990 --> 00:53:24,319
most just purely

1396
00:53:31,430 --> 00:53:28,000
sincere nice dude like we have ever

1397
00:53:32,470 --> 00:53:31,440
i've ever met i mean he's just when he

1398
00:53:35,430 --> 00:53:32,480
talks

1399
00:53:36,549 --> 00:53:35,440
you listen because you care about what

1400
00:53:38,230 --> 00:53:36,559
he has to say

1401
00:53:40,870 --> 00:53:38,240
because he doesn't want to tell you what

1402
00:53:42,870 --> 00:53:40,880
he knows he wants to listen to you and

1403
00:53:45,510 --> 00:53:42,880
hear what you have to say

1404
00:53:46,470 --> 00:53:45,520
and then move on from there if you ask

1405
00:53:48,549 --> 00:53:46,480
him questions

1406
00:53:50,790 --> 00:53:48,559
he'll talk to you but i mean he's not

1407
00:53:52,630 --> 00:53:50,800
there to spread his story he's not a

1408
00:53:56,470 --> 00:53:52,640
millionaire you know he's just

1409
00:53:59,910 --> 00:53:56,480
a very simple man with an amazing story

1410
00:54:02,950 --> 00:53:59,920
and he's done a lot of stuff

1411
00:54:05,190 --> 00:54:02,960
for the community that you would

1412
00:54:07,670 --> 00:54:05,200
never know eric mitchell was a part of

1413
00:54:11,829 --> 00:54:07,680
yeah there's the secret right there

1414
00:54:14,790 --> 00:54:11,839
well i i'll i'll out myself because i'm

1415
00:54:15,990 --> 00:54:14,800
i nobody gave us a book of rules right

1416
00:54:19,990 --> 00:54:16,000
there's no book of rules

1417
00:54:23,990 --> 00:54:20,000
there is not one no not one and so when

1418
00:54:26,790 --> 00:54:24,000
when when our experience happened

1419
00:54:27,270 --> 00:54:26,800
the word we we've created a word it's

1420
00:54:30,630 --> 00:54:27,280
called

1421
00:54:33,670 --> 00:54:30,640
orb ducted not abducted

1422
00:54:35,030 --> 00:54:33,680
orb ducted yeah i apologize i think i

1423
00:54:36,549 --> 00:54:35,040
said abducted earlier

1424
00:54:38,309 --> 00:54:36,559
yeah that's right i mean you know the

1425
00:54:41,750 --> 00:54:38,319
language is easy but we

1426
00:54:45,270 --> 00:54:41,760
that word was created very specifically

1427
00:54:47,109 --> 00:54:45,280
to get the point across we got a kind of

1428
00:54:50,789 --> 00:54:47,119
a different story

1429
00:54:53,190 --> 00:54:50,799
and uh but the point is is that

1430
00:54:54,789 --> 00:54:53,200
when that all came about neither one of

1431
00:54:57,270 --> 00:54:54,799
us as i started to say to you

1432
00:54:58,069 --> 00:54:57,280
ever intended to write a book neither

1433
00:55:00,710 --> 00:54:58,079
one of us

1434
00:55:01,430 --> 00:55:00,720
ever intended to be public public ever

1435
00:55:05,270 --> 00:55:01,440
ever

1436
00:55:08,069 --> 00:55:05,280
yep but i'm i'm here outing myself

1437
00:55:08,710 --> 00:55:08,079
chad had nothing to do with this he is a

1438
00:55:11,430 --> 00:55:08,720
innocent

1439
00:55:12,309 --> 00:55:11,440
bystander in what i did and what i did

1440
00:55:15,349 --> 00:55:12,319
is i got

1441
00:55:16,710 --> 00:55:15,359
angry i got first i got hurt and then i

1442
00:55:20,230 --> 00:55:16,720
got pissed

1443
00:55:23,430 --> 00:55:20,240
and then i said f this this is

1444
00:55:24,870 --> 00:55:23,440
insanity we trusted somebody who is very

1445
00:55:28,309 --> 00:55:24,880
well known

1446
00:55:30,390 --> 00:55:28,319
that to uh that was going to research us

1447
00:55:32,069 --> 00:55:30,400
they were going to research us that's

1448
00:55:36,390 --> 00:55:32,079
all we ever asked for

1449
00:55:39,349 --> 00:55:36,400
is investigation research help

1450
00:55:40,630 --> 00:55:39,359
and that person convinced us that's what

1451
00:55:42,630 --> 00:55:40,640
they were going to do

1452
00:55:45,109 --> 00:55:42,640
the next thing we know they asked us if

1453
00:55:47,349 --> 00:55:45,119
we'd be on their radio show

1454
00:55:50,069 --> 00:55:47,359
i didn't think that was a good idea but

1455
00:55:53,109 --> 00:55:50,079
hey they're the expert

1456
00:55:53,430 --> 00:55:53,119
they wanted us to do it we did it we put

1457
00:55:55,430 --> 00:55:53,440
them

1458
00:55:57,349 --> 00:55:55,440
over the ratings whatever that means

1459
00:55:59,349 --> 00:55:57,359
this bs language

1460
00:56:00,870 --> 00:55:59,359
they were happy with themselves they

1461
00:56:02,549 --> 00:56:00,880
couldn't breathe any longer

1462
00:56:05,190 --> 00:56:02,559
and they were done with us they were

1463
00:56:07,190 --> 00:56:05,200
done all they wanted was that interview

1464
00:56:08,309 --> 00:56:07,200
i'm you know whatever i just need you to

1465
00:56:12,549 --> 00:56:08,319
know

1466
00:56:13,829 --> 00:56:12,559
apologize for what i said earlier i was

1467
00:56:16,230 --> 00:56:13,839
just trying to be optimistic

1468
00:56:17,829 --> 00:56:16,240
i did not know how deep this story went

1469
00:56:19,510 --> 00:56:17,839
so i kind of take

1470
00:56:21,109 --> 00:56:19,520
i whatever point i was trying to make

1471
00:56:22,950 --> 00:56:21,119
please know that it was a good and good

1472
00:56:24,950 --> 00:56:22,960
intention

1473
00:56:26,150 --> 00:56:24,960
it's absolutely yeah we can't we could

1474
00:56:27,990 --> 00:56:26,160
go i mean

1475
00:56:30,230 --> 00:56:28,000
how far down the rabbit hole do you want

1476
00:56:32,390 --> 00:56:30,240
to go yeah really all the way baby

1477
00:56:33,670 --> 00:56:32,400
wherever the rabbit finished making that

1478
00:56:35,589 --> 00:56:33,680
hole

1479
00:56:38,230 --> 00:56:35,599
i've never we have not found the bottom

1480
00:56:39,670 --> 00:56:38,240
yet so just kind of sharing the ugly

1481
00:56:41,910 --> 00:56:39,680
part of this just getting it out of the

1482
00:56:43,270 --> 00:56:41,920
way just so you oh you have to

1483
00:56:44,710 --> 00:56:43,280
i think it's really important to talk

1484
00:56:46,710 --> 00:56:44,720
about this right now because we haven't

1485
00:56:48,309 --> 00:56:46,720
even scratched the surface to your story

1486
00:56:51,510 --> 00:56:48,319
i feel like so

1487
00:56:51,910 --> 00:56:51,520
the experiences are so freaking amazing

1488
00:56:55,109 --> 00:56:51,920
they're

1489
00:56:58,309 --> 00:56:55,119
so amazing that this this

1490
00:57:00,309 --> 00:56:58,319
human aspect of it i'm so sorry that

1491
00:57:01,670 --> 00:57:00,319
you know taking up the time sharing this

1492
00:57:04,549 --> 00:57:01,680
but this is what happened

1493
00:57:05,349 --> 00:57:04,559
i'll finish this level of it i got so

1494
00:57:09,030 --> 00:57:05,359
hurt

1495
00:57:12,710 --> 00:57:09,040
then i got so pissed i said

1496
00:57:15,750 --> 00:57:12,720
f it chad i'm gonna

1497
00:57:19,430 --> 00:57:15,760
make sure the world knows we exist

1498
00:57:23,510 --> 00:57:19,440
we cannot be [\h__\h] on anymore stomped on

1499
00:57:26,230 --> 00:57:23,520
buried they'll know we exist

1500
00:57:26,870 --> 00:57:26,240
story is over the good the bad and the

1501
00:57:30,390 --> 00:57:26,880
indifferent

1502
00:57:32,710 --> 00:57:30,400
more wrong of my behavior is i contacted

1503
00:57:35,589 --> 00:57:32,720
anybody i could get my little paws on

1504
00:57:36,710 --> 00:57:35,599
that had a podcast had a radio show had

1505
00:57:39,030 --> 00:57:36,720
anything

1506
00:57:39,990 --> 00:57:39,040
that seemed to have interest in us and

1507
00:57:43,589 --> 00:57:40,000
they all jumped

1508
00:57:44,230 --> 00:57:43,599
on it and so we've done probably i i'm

1509
00:57:47,270 --> 00:57:44,240
guessing

1510
00:57:47,670 --> 00:57:47,280
200 interviews around the world wow

1511
00:57:54,470 --> 00:57:47,680
since

1512
00:57:56,309 --> 00:57:54,480
well that's done nothing for us nothing

1513
00:57:57,750 --> 00:57:56,319
in the sense of anybody having any

1514
00:58:00,789 --> 00:57:57,760
interest in us

1515
00:58:03,990 --> 00:58:00,799
but once i started it i couldn't stop it

1516
00:58:06,150 --> 00:58:04,000
because it i kept and i still do

1517
00:58:07,990 --> 00:58:06,160
i as long as i take breath i'm trying to

1518
00:58:10,390 --> 00:58:08,000
have understanding

1519
00:58:11,510 --> 00:58:10,400
and we're trying to find people that

1520
00:58:14,069 --> 00:58:11,520
that care

1521
00:58:15,109 --> 00:58:14,079
who are actually interested in what is

1522
00:58:16,870 --> 00:58:15,119
going on here

1523
00:58:18,870 --> 00:58:16,880
because as i said to you again i am

1524
00:58:20,870 --> 00:58:18,880
carrying something in my body

1525
00:58:22,470 --> 00:58:20,880
that nobody seems to take interest in it

1526
00:58:26,069 --> 00:58:22,480
i don't get i don't

1527
00:58:27,430 --> 00:58:26,079
comprehend that at all and so

1528
00:58:29,589 --> 00:58:27,440
for the right wrong or indifferent of

1529
00:58:31,750 --> 00:58:29,599
that maybe we've been spared i'd like to

1530
00:58:34,950 --> 00:58:31,760
think that's what's really happened here

1531
00:58:37,030 --> 00:58:34,960
yeah we are just so special you know

1532
00:58:38,710 --> 00:58:37,040
the ridiculousness of it all the ego of

1533
00:58:42,549 --> 00:58:38,720
it all

1534
00:58:44,390 --> 00:58:42,559
it's led us to becoming so public

1535
00:58:46,870 --> 00:58:44,400
because being public has not helped us

1536
00:58:48,870 --> 00:58:46,880
at all being public has only heard us in

1537
00:58:50,789 --> 00:58:48,880
many ways thank god chad can't be hurt

1538
00:58:52,870 --> 00:58:50,799
his chad is so special

1539
00:58:54,230 --> 00:58:52,880
he don't care you don't care what you

1540
00:58:57,270 --> 00:58:54,240
think you don't care

1541
00:58:57,910 --> 00:58:57,280
your attitude your you don't care right

1542
00:59:00,069 --> 00:58:57,920
now

1543
00:59:01,030 --> 00:59:00,079
hell yeah you need people like that in

1544
00:59:03,990 --> 00:59:01,040
your life for sure

1545
00:59:04,710 --> 00:59:04,000
absolutely that's why we're 30 years

1546
00:59:09,030 --> 00:59:04,720
together

1547
00:59:12,309 --> 00:59:09,040
right i'm bin's chad yeah that's right

1548
00:59:14,390 --> 00:59:12,319
yeah yeah so

1549
00:59:15,829 --> 00:59:14,400
you know that's the kind of the ugly

1550
00:59:17,430 --> 00:59:15,839
part of all of this

1551
00:59:19,510 --> 00:59:17,440
you know while we're it adding i don't

1552
00:59:21,109 --> 00:59:19,520
mind saying this publicly because we've

1553
00:59:23,270 --> 00:59:21,119
never comprehended this

1554
00:59:25,270 --> 00:59:23,280
we've met walton in a couple of certain

1555
00:59:28,069 --> 00:59:25,280
special occasions

1556
00:59:29,030 --> 00:59:28,079
the minute that we met travis walton he

1557
00:59:32,230 --> 00:59:29,040
looked at me

1558
00:59:35,349 --> 00:59:32,240
like i like he'd seen a devil

1559
00:59:36,390 --> 00:59:35,359
and he couldn't get away or a ghost or a

1560
00:59:39,109 --> 00:59:36,400
ghost

1561
00:59:40,150 --> 00:59:39,119
and i tried to tell him uncle shorty is

1562
00:59:42,789 --> 00:59:40,160
your neighbor

1563
00:59:43,349 --> 00:59:42,799
you have to know uncle shorty he was you

1564
00:59:45,190 --> 00:59:43,359
know

1565
00:59:46,390 --> 00:59:45,200
the moment i bring up we've got a

1566
00:59:48,789 --> 00:59:46,400
connection

1567
00:59:51,270 --> 00:59:48,799
he didn't walk he ran and then we saw

1568
00:59:53,910 --> 00:59:51,280
him a few more times at conferences

1569
00:59:55,750 --> 00:59:53,920
we were vendors at conferences we

1570
00:59:58,950 --> 00:59:55,760
started traveling the country

1571
01:00:00,950 --> 00:59:58,960
we're artisans and we have a wearable

1572
01:00:03,030 --> 01:00:00,960
art that we started creating

1573
01:00:05,190 --> 01:00:03,040
and then also trying to speak about

1574
01:00:07,510 --> 01:00:05,200
what's happened to us and whatever

1575
01:00:09,589 --> 01:00:07,520
we never got on the circuit we're not of

1576
01:00:11,589 --> 01:00:09,599
any of that

1577
01:00:13,990 --> 01:00:11,599
and this yeah no book or nothing like

1578
01:00:16,630 --> 01:00:14,000
that so we're already out in that

1579
01:00:18,309 --> 01:00:16,640
area of having an opportunity to see

1580
01:00:20,549 --> 01:00:18,319
these people

1581
01:00:21,430 --> 01:00:20,559
on these other levels at these shows and

1582
01:00:23,910 --> 01:00:21,440
whatever

1583
01:00:24,630 --> 01:00:23,920
and each time we saw him he would glare

1584
01:00:26,549 --> 01:00:24,640
he would

1585
01:00:28,630 --> 01:00:26,559
we even bought his damn book and he

1586
01:00:31,270 --> 01:00:28,640
would do nothing but glare at us

1587
01:00:33,109 --> 01:00:31,280
now you can't be too public about things

1588
01:00:36,150 --> 01:00:33,119
like that because he's worshipped

1589
01:00:37,589 --> 01:00:36,160
but we don't understand at all what that

1590
01:00:40,230 --> 01:00:37,599
behavior is about

1591
01:00:42,309 --> 01:00:40,240
we don't get it we don't comprehend it

1592
01:00:44,230 --> 01:00:42,319
we only know we have experienced it

1593
01:00:45,589 --> 01:00:44,240
and it's happened times and it's one of

1594
01:00:46,309 --> 01:00:45,599
the few times i've seen chad get

1595
01:00:52,710 --> 01:00:46,319
offended

1596
01:00:54,309 --> 01:00:52,720
and so we don't comprehend any of this

1597
01:00:56,069 --> 01:00:54,319
we're not understanding

1598
01:00:57,589 --> 01:00:56,079
it's i guess it's meant to be i don't

1599
01:00:59,430 --> 01:00:57,599
know yeah it's

1600
01:01:01,829 --> 01:00:59,440
so strange to get a chance to talk with

1601
01:01:05,270 --> 01:01:01,839
you guys so hallelujah

1602
01:01:07,750 --> 01:01:05,280
i you know we i just want i wonder why

1603
01:01:09,030 --> 01:01:07,760
the conversation hasn't happened it just

1604
01:01:10,630 --> 01:01:09,040
it's strange it's

1605
01:01:12,230 --> 01:01:10,640
that's strange yeah that is weird i mean

1606
01:01:15,750 --> 01:01:12,240
it's almost like you know

1607
01:01:18,150 --> 01:01:15,760
it i don't we've met we've met travis

1608
01:01:19,349 --> 01:01:18,160
i mean he was nice to us you know we

1609
01:01:21,589 --> 01:01:19,359
haven't had you know uh

1610
01:01:23,430 --> 01:01:21,599
uh it's nice to everybody right yeah

1611
01:01:24,710 --> 01:01:23,440
exactly exactly that's what i'm i'm

1612
01:01:26,390 --> 01:01:24,720
getting awesome

1613
01:01:28,230 --> 01:01:26,400
i mean i just don't understand it was

1614
01:01:29,670 --> 01:01:28,240
just a weird kind of

1615
01:01:31,670 --> 01:01:29,680
and it's been weird each time

1616
01:01:34,710 --> 01:01:31,680
something's in between us we don't get

1617
01:01:40,549 --> 01:01:38,309
share with him and talk with him but

1618
01:01:43,190 --> 01:01:40,559
i will mention that one of the beings

1619
01:01:46,630 --> 01:01:43,200
that he describes his encounters were

1620
01:01:49,030 --> 01:01:46,640
is exactly identically to who i was with

1621
01:01:50,630 --> 01:01:49,040
so wow dan you know and you'll

1622
01:01:52,950 --> 01:01:50,640
understand that further as we get into

1623
01:01:53,510 --> 01:01:52,960
that experience i wonder if it's like uh

1624
01:01:57,270 --> 01:01:53,520
he just

1625
01:01:58,630 --> 01:01:57,280
he felt this e.t presence about y'all

1626
01:02:00,950 --> 01:01:58,640
and it freaked him out

1627
01:02:02,710 --> 01:02:00,960
or if it was like uh hey we've gotta

1628
01:02:04,549 --> 01:02:02,720
we've got a legit story

1629
01:02:06,870 --> 01:02:04,559
as well and it was almost like

1630
01:02:07,750 --> 01:02:06,880
threatening you know because in the old

1631
01:02:11,349 --> 01:02:07,760
guard it's like

1632
01:02:12,390 --> 01:02:11,359
that is the story you know you have the

1633
01:02:14,470 --> 01:02:12,400
uh

1634
01:02:15,750 --> 01:02:14,480
whitley strieber story i mean you got

1635
01:02:18,630 --> 01:02:15,760
these big you know

1636
01:02:19,029 --> 01:02:18,640
old head type stories that are like what

1637
01:02:22,470 --> 01:02:19,039
make

1638
01:02:23,589 --> 01:02:22,480
ufology almost and you know maybe

1639
01:02:26,390 --> 01:02:23,599
there's a little threat

1640
01:02:27,829 --> 01:02:26,400
by that it clearly is interesting if

1641
01:02:29,670 --> 01:02:27,839
there's too many of us

1642
01:02:31,349 --> 01:02:29,680
in the in the same room where are we

1643
01:02:33,670 --> 01:02:31,359
going to get

1644
01:02:35,430 --> 01:02:33,680
and then might take yeah just said makes

1645
01:02:36,710 --> 01:02:35,440
so much sense to me because when you

1646
01:02:39,430 --> 01:02:36,720
listen to him

1647
01:02:41,270 --> 01:02:39,440
as you all have heard him speak about

1648
01:02:44,069 --> 01:02:41,280
his experiences

1649
01:02:44,630 --> 01:02:44,079
he didn't like any of it he he was not

1650
01:02:46,549 --> 01:02:44,640
enjoying

1651
01:02:49,510 --> 01:02:46,559
any of his experience my understanding

1652
01:02:53,270 --> 01:02:49,520
was yes he's describing back in the day

1653
01:02:55,270 --> 01:02:53,280
and so what you just said was so

1654
01:02:57,029 --> 01:02:55,280
interesting to me just now because he

1655
01:02:58,309 --> 01:02:57,039
certainly seemed to react that way

1656
01:03:02,069 --> 01:02:58,319
towards us

1657
01:03:03,910 --> 01:03:02,079
as if as if there was something there

1658
01:03:05,670 --> 01:03:03,920
that i couldn't see and i didn't

1659
01:03:08,309 --> 01:03:05,680
understand because i come in

1660
01:03:09,670 --> 01:03:08,319
and i still would i still do even being

1661
01:03:12,470 --> 01:03:09,680
abused being

1662
01:03:13,190 --> 01:03:12,480
tossed and abused and kind of stomped on

1663
01:03:15,029 --> 01:03:13,200
and

1664
01:03:16,230 --> 01:03:15,039
called everything in the you know people

1665
01:03:17,990 --> 01:03:16,240
think because we've done so many

1666
01:03:19,029 --> 01:03:18,000
interviews that we are these publicity

1667
01:03:20,710 --> 01:03:19,039
hogs

1668
01:03:22,150 --> 01:03:20,720
and then they hear we've had lots of

1669
01:03:25,349 --> 01:03:22,160
comments about our

1670
01:03:27,430 --> 01:03:25,359
title of our book of how well

1671
01:03:29,109 --> 01:03:27,440
don't blame us because we're brilliant

1672
01:03:31,670 --> 01:03:29,119
come up with a new word in this

1673
01:03:33,349 --> 01:03:31,680
arena that nobody's come up with yet you

1674
01:03:35,829 --> 01:03:33,359
know and there seems to be a lot of this

1675
01:03:37,430 --> 01:03:35,839
i'm kind of being you know trying to

1676
01:03:39,829 --> 01:03:37,440
make sort of a joke about it

1677
01:03:41,109 --> 01:03:39,839
yeah is we haven't understood any of

1678
01:03:42,390 --> 01:03:41,119
this kind of behavior

1679
01:03:45,029 --> 01:03:42,400
none of it's made sense and when you

1680
01:03:46,870 --> 01:03:45,039
hear our our experiences

1681
01:03:48,309 --> 01:03:46,880
i think you'll find it just as bizarre

1682
01:03:52,150 --> 01:03:48,319
as we do

1683
01:03:54,150 --> 01:03:52,160
because and that one occasion that that

1684
01:03:56,069 --> 01:03:54,160
book was written about specifically or

1685
01:03:57,910 --> 01:03:56,079
abducted in the french quarter

1686
01:03:59,670 --> 01:03:57,920
it wasn't just chad and alta who've been

1687
01:04:02,630 --> 01:03:59,680
married for now

1688
01:04:03,910 --> 01:04:02,640
29 years together 30. there was another

1689
01:04:06,789 --> 01:04:03,920
woman involved in

1690
01:04:07,510 --> 01:04:06,799
experience and that woman is not family

1691
01:04:10,470 --> 01:04:07,520
she was not

1692
01:04:11,349 --> 01:04:10,480
family she was my manager in the shop i

1693
01:04:13,589 --> 01:04:11,359
worked in

1694
01:04:14,950 --> 01:04:13,599
and happened to be a friend but she's

1695
01:04:18,230 --> 01:04:14,960
not family

1696
01:04:20,710 --> 01:04:18,240
she's not blood she got no

1697
01:04:22,309 --> 01:04:20,720
dog in this or bone in this what however

1698
01:04:24,789 --> 01:04:22,319
you say all those things she's

1699
01:04:26,309 --> 01:04:24,799
you know there were three of us that

1700
01:04:29,589 --> 01:04:26,319
this happened to that night

1701
01:04:33,029 --> 01:04:29,599
three of us yeah and and it's

1702
01:04:36,630 --> 01:04:33,039
it's just it's mind-blowing to me again

1703
01:04:39,349 --> 01:04:36,640
so with that all said to you

1704
01:04:40,789 --> 01:04:39,359
if you'd if you'd like before the night

1705
01:04:43,029 --> 01:04:40,799
is over

1706
01:04:44,710 --> 01:04:43,039
you know we can get into i wanted to

1707
01:04:46,230 --> 01:04:44,720
pass this back off to chad because i've

1708
01:04:48,789 --> 01:04:46,240
given you my bizarre

1709
01:04:49,589 --> 01:04:48,799
beginnings oh absolutely uh all of this

1710
01:04:50,870 --> 01:04:49,599
mystery

1711
01:04:59,190 --> 01:04:50,880
i thought it'd be interesting for you

1712
01:05:04,549 --> 01:05:02,309
my first kind of weird experience this

1713
01:05:11,510 --> 01:05:04,559
would have been

1714
01:05:12,309 --> 01:05:11,520
about seven years old you know maybe six

1715
01:05:16,789 --> 01:05:12,319
between six

1716
01:05:20,069 --> 01:05:16,799
seven years old yeah and i'm 53 now

1717
01:05:23,349 --> 01:05:20,079
so this would have yeah

1718
01:05:27,190 --> 01:05:23,359
mid seven here early seventies my

1719
01:05:30,309 --> 01:05:27,200
um my dad was a rice farmer in arkansas

1720
01:05:31,589 --> 01:05:30,319
my dad my grandfather and my uncle okay

1721
01:05:34,069 --> 01:05:31,599
actually they were they were

1722
01:05:37,670 --> 01:05:34,079
sharecroppers back in the day

1723
01:05:41,349 --> 01:05:37,680
and then they finally you know started

1724
01:05:44,470 --> 01:05:41,359
having their own land but

1725
01:05:48,150 --> 01:05:44,480
my dad my mom had just moved

1726
01:05:50,630 --> 01:05:48,160
this house from one point of the

1727
01:05:51,910 --> 01:05:50,640
rural community over to another and he

1728
01:05:55,430 --> 01:05:51,920
just built this house

1729
01:06:02,309 --> 01:05:55,440
kind of fixed it up and then they had

1730
01:06:09,349 --> 01:06:05,589
four acres away maybe you know

1731
01:06:11,750 --> 01:06:09,359
it was there was like a a soybean field

1732
01:06:13,430 --> 01:06:11,760
in between the shop where they kept the

1733
01:06:15,670 --> 01:06:13,440
tractors and the

1734
01:06:17,430 --> 01:06:15,680
combines and all that kind of stuff in

1735
01:06:21,270 --> 01:06:17,440
between our house

1736
01:06:25,829 --> 01:06:21,280
so i remember my dad

1737
01:06:29,829 --> 01:06:25,839
my grandfather and my uncle going out

1738
01:06:32,870 --> 01:06:29,839
and there's these perfect

1739
01:06:36,789 --> 01:06:32,880
circles there's three of them they're

1740
01:06:43,430 --> 01:06:40,710
15 foot around yeah

1741
01:06:44,150 --> 01:06:43,440
and they're not they're not crop circles

1742
01:06:47,670 --> 01:06:44,160
they're like

1743
01:06:50,069 --> 01:06:47,680
burnt circles burns oh wow

1744
01:06:52,789 --> 01:06:50,079
they were like burnt into the ground you

1745
01:06:55,190 --> 01:06:52,799
know it killed the crops it killed

1746
01:06:55,910 --> 01:06:55,200
you know and they were perfect and there

1747
01:06:59,670 --> 01:06:55,920
was like

1748
01:06:59,990 --> 01:06:59,680
three right in a row so that was kind of

1749
01:07:03,109 --> 01:07:00,000
my

1750
01:07:04,950 --> 01:07:03,119
first weird experience they had no

1751
01:07:05,349 --> 01:07:04,960
understanding they had never experienced

1752
01:07:08,789 --> 01:07:05,359
anything

1753
01:07:11,990 --> 01:07:08,799
never happened i mean so that no

1754
01:07:13,349 --> 01:07:12,000
that burnt was it like a fire burnt uh

1755
01:07:16,789 --> 01:07:13,359
high heat burnt

1756
01:07:20,150 --> 01:07:16,799
uh or what maybe a radiation burn

1757
01:07:21,190 --> 01:07:20,160
uh yeah it was like perfect round

1758
01:07:24,150 --> 01:07:21,200
circles

1759
01:07:24,789 --> 01:07:24,160
i mean everything was charred oh wow

1760
01:07:33,349 --> 01:07:24,799
yeah

1761
01:07:36,069 --> 01:07:33,359
and it was just like the soybeans

1762
01:07:37,190 --> 01:07:36,079
and everything the plants were burnt i

1763
01:07:39,829 --> 01:07:37,200
mean that you could still

1764
01:07:40,390 --> 01:07:39,839
kind of see the plants yeah they're

1765
01:07:44,630 --> 01:07:40,400
charred

1766
01:07:48,230 --> 01:07:44,640
whoa

1767
01:07:50,069 --> 01:07:48,240
so and again in a perfect line

1768
01:07:52,069 --> 01:07:50,079
and not that i don't believe every word

1769
01:07:54,390 --> 01:07:52,079
out of chad but just for y'all's benefit

1770
01:07:57,270 --> 01:07:54,400
i just talked to his mama

1771
01:07:59,349 --> 01:07:57,280
just the other day about this subject

1772
01:08:01,510 --> 01:07:59,359
and she absolutely remembers this

1773
01:08:03,589 --> 01:08:01,520
she remembers this and this is not a

1774
01:08:07,270 --> 01:08:03,599
subject she's interested in yeah

1775
01:08:09,109 --> 01:08:07,280
yeah my mom's uh you know church going

1776
01:08:12,230 --> 01:08:09,119
you know she just has no interest in any

1777
01:08:16,070 --> 01:08:12,240
of us confirmed she absolutely confirmed

1778
01:08:18,789 --> 01:08:16,080
his memory is accurate so um

1779
01:08:20,149 --> 01:08:18,799
that was kind of my first kind of weird

1780
01:08:24,149 --> 01:08:20,159
experience

1781
01:08:27,349 --> 01:08:24,159
my my dad then divorced my mom or

1782
01:08:31,910 --> 01:08:27,359
you know my mom and dad split but then

1783
01:08:35,430 --> 01:08:31,920
my mom or my dad uh remarried

1784
01:08:37,189 --> 01:08:35,440
uh my second stepmother or my my stepmom

1785
01:08:38,789 --> 01:08:37,199
his second wife he's on his third now

1786
01:08:41,030 --> 01:08:38,799
he's on his third right now

1787
01:08:43,189 --> 01:08:41,040
third time's a charm you know that's

1788
01:08:47,030 --> 01:08:43,199
great or three strikes and you're out

1789
01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:50,950
no comment

1790
01:08:57,349 --> 01:08:54,309
so his second wife she

1791
01:08:57,829 --> 01:08:57,359
she's my age she's the last one he's

1792
01:09:01,430 --> 01:08:57,839
like

1793
01:09:06,550 --> 01:09:04,789
idiot boy hell yeah bizarres

1794
01:09:08,390 --> 01:09:06,560
all the rest of it give him a high five

1795
01:09:11,590 --> 01:09:08,400
the next time i see you

1796
01:09:14,630 --> 01:09:11,600
that's right my dad's second wife

1797
01:09:18,229 --> 01:09:14,640
she uh they they move out

1798
01:09:20,630 --> 01:09:18,239
to colorado and

1799
01:09:22,550 --> 01:09:20,640
they've got now i never visited this

1800
01:09:25,110 --> 01:09:22,560
place and everything because

1801
01:09:27,189 --> 01:09:25,120
you know dad was in transition and that

1802
01:09:28,470 --> 01:09:27,199
was his hippie days and he had to belong

1803
01:09:31,910 --> 01:09:28,480
here and

1804
01:09:35,189 --> 01:09:31,920
you know it was the 70. so

1805
01:09:38,390 --> 01:09:35,199
he's out there and

1806
01:09:40,070 --> 01:09:38,400
we finally get reunited and i hear this

1807
01:09:44,709 --> 01:09:40,080
story

1808
01:09:47,669 --> 01:09:44,719
about when they're in colorado and

1809
01:09:47,990 --> 01:09:47,679
they go out for the night now they're

1810
01:09:51,189 --> 01:09:48,000
only

1811
01:09:52,870 --> 01:09:51,199
gone for like three or four hours but

1812
01:09:57,110 --> 01:09:52,880
when they come home

1813
01:10:00,830 --> 01:09:57,120
their whole house is rearranged

1814
01:10:03,750 --> 01:10:00,840
whoa now they were with

1815
01:10:07,030 --> 01:10:03,760
friends so it wasn't it wouldn't

1816
01:10:09,830 --> 01:10:07,040
it wouldn't be like a prank where

1817
01:10:12,630 --> 01:10:09,840
you know the friends come in and like

1818
01:10:16,390 --> 01:10:12,640
move your furniture around

1819
01:10:18,310 --> 01:10:16,400
they come home from

1820
01:10:20,070 --> 01:10:18,320
you know visiting with their friends and

1821
01:10:22,950 --> 01:10:20,080
their whole house is just

1822
01:10:24,390 --> 01:10:22,960
you know the furniture is moved around

1823
01:10:27,350 --> 01:10:24,400
it's rearranged

1824
01:10:27,669 --> 01:10:27,360
it's not in this sample or the shamble

1825
01:10:29,430 --> 01:10:27,679
or

1826
01:10:31,110 --> 01:10:29,440
anything like that it's just right

1827
01:10:34,310 --> 01:10:31,120
rearranged so

1828
01:10:35,830 --> 01:10:34,320
not just the living room but like other

1829
01:10:40,070 --> 01:10:35,840
rooms too

1830
01:10:43,430 --> 01:10:40,080
yeah yeah the whole house uh what

1831
01:10:46,229 --> 01:10:43,440
right yeah right everything's in yeah

1832
01:10:47,189 --> 01:10:46,239
everything's uh think what i'm thinking

1833
01:10:49,669 --> 01:10:47,199
of and this is just

1834
01:10:50,630 --> 01:10:49,679
me like watching too many movies but

1835
01:10:55,830 --> 01:10:50,640
like

1836
01:10:57,669 --> 01:10:55,840
reality time slip that's so similar to

1837
01:11:00,870 --> 01:10:57,679
what timeline you were on but it was

1838
01:11:03,030 --> 01:11:00,880
just like subtly different

1839
01:11:05,350 --> 01:11:03,040
right i've done that so we know exactly

1840
01:11:07,750 --> 01:11:05,360
what you're saying oh exactly

1841
01:11:09,590 --> 01:11:07,760
so that that's a good one i've never

1842
01:11:11,270 --> 01:11:09,600
thought about it but i have done that

1843
01:11:12,709 --> 01:11:11,280
i thought it was kind of like or

1844
01:11:15,669 --> 01:11:12,719
poltergeist kind of

1845
01:11:16,870 --> 01:11:15,679
activity but maybe he did step into a

1846
01:11:21,270 --> 01:11:16,880
different

1847
01:11:25,669 --> 01:11:23,830
stepmother he's talking about yeah when

1848
01:11:28,790 --> 01:11:25,679
they're together

1849
01:11:29,830 --> 01:11:28,800
they moved to texas they lived in the

1850
01:11:32,070 --> 01:11:29,840
houston area

1851
01:11:33,990 --> 01:11:32,080
well this year i was just mentioning

1852
01:11:35,910 --> 01:11:34,000
what we discovered recently

1853
01:11:37,750 --> 01:11:35,920
oh yeah we did we were doing an

1854
01:11:41,030 --> 01:11:37,760
interview with somebody last year

1855
01:11:43,910 --> 01:11:41,040
or whatever in the last year or so and

1856
01:11:46,229 --> 01:11:43,920
dude he he contacts us after he's while

1857
01:11:49,270 --> 01:11:46,239
he's editing that interview

1858
01:11:52,310 --> 01:11:49,280
and he contacts us to let us know

1859
01:11:54,870 --> 01:11:52,320
there's somebody else talking what

1860
01:11:56,070 --> 01:11:54,880
in that interview it's not chad not alto

1861
01:11:58,950 --> 01:11:56,080
and not him

1862
01:11:59,350 --> 01:11:58,960
and he's in that room by himself so he

1863
01:12:03,910 --> 01:11:59,360
sent

1864
01:12:04,950 --> 01:12:03,920
discovered while he's editing that

1865
01:12:08,070 --> 01:12:04,960
interview

1866
01:12:09,830 --> 01:12:08,080
when chad's talking about that house

1867
01:12:11,510 --> 01:12:09,840
he describes the house because chad's

1868
01:12:14,790 --> 01:12:11,520
dad was a bit

1869
01:12:18,310 --> 01:12:14,800
money back in the day still kinda is

1870
01:12:20,310 --> 01:12:18,320
and they had a big house and chad's

1871
01:12:23,270 --> 01:12:20,320
trying to describe this to the

1872
01:12:24,950 --> 01:12:23,280
to the host that they're in a big house

1873
01:12:28,470 --> 01:12:24,960
and you hear a man

1874
01:12:29,510 --> 01:12:28,480
very distinctly repeat chad's identical

1875
01:12:32,950 --> 01:12:29,520
words

1876
01:12:36,149 --> 01:12:32,960
big house and so yeah

1877
01:12:37,189 --> 01:12:36,159
what the hey what the heck either he's

1878
01:12:40,790 --> 01:12:37,199
repeating or

1879
01:12:44,470 --> 01:12:40,800
you're hearing him influence what you're

1880
01:12:46,390 --> 01:12:44,480
saying and the frequencies get mixed up

1881
01:12:47,189 --> 01:12:46,400
and it's there's the delay in there i

1882
01:12:49,750 --> 01:12:47,199
don't know

1883
01:12:51,189 --> 01:12:49,760
just thinking of so and i will mention

1884
01:12:53,990 --> 01:12:51,199
that voice was a

1885
01:12:54,550 --> 01:12:54,000
very distinct voice that was none of

1886
01:12:56,950 --> 01:12:54,560
ours

1887
01:12:58,550 --> 01:12:56,960
yeah and this was recorded like you were

1888
01:13:01,270 --> 01:12:58,560
you're doing the show tonight with us

1889
01:13:02,630 --> 01:13:01,280
or was this and if you go back and if

1890
01:13:05,030 --> 01:13:02,640
you're editing because i don't

1891
01:13:06,790 --> 01:13:05,040
understand all that language podcast

1892
01:13:08,950 --> 01:13:06,800
if i go back and i edit and i hear

1893
01:13:11,990 --> 01:13:08,960
another voice like you guys i'm gonna

1894
01:13:15,750 --> 01:13:12,000
i will call you at 3am to

1895
01:13:19,430 --> 01:13:18,709
and you have every right i'm kidding

1896
01:13:22,310 --> 01:13:19,440
y'all but

1897
01:13:22,870 --> 01:13:22,320
every right those dudes but i mean

1898
01:13:26,070 --> 01:13:22,880
literally

1899
01:13:27,350 --> 01:13:26,080
dude was freaking because it is i guess

1900
01:13:29,590 --> 01:13:27,360
they call that i don't know

1901
01:13:30,630 --> 01:13:29,600
this stupid language this class a kind

1902
01:13:34,390 --> 01:13:30,640
of whatever they

1903
01:13:37,270 --> 01:13:34,400
claim these uh these these

1904
01:13:38,870 --> 01:13:37,280
messages are that these ghostie busters

1905
01:13:39,750 --> 01:13:38,880
without and they're out there and their

1906
01:13:41,910 --> 01:13:39,760
equipment i'm

1907
01:13:44,070 --> 01:13:41,920
trying to not sound facetious or put

1908
01:13:46,790 --> 01:13:44,080
anybody down i'm into all of it

1909
01:13:47,270 --> 01:13:46,800
yeah i'm not seeing any of it and and

1910
01:13:49,350 --> 01:13:47,280
yet

1911
01:13:50,310 --> 01:13:49,360
that's exactly what came across in that

1912
01:13:52,310 --> 01:13:50,320
interview

1913
01:13:53,990 --> 01:13:52,320
and when he sent it to us it's

1914
01:13:54,630 --> 01:13:54,000
mind-blowing i'll send it to you if

1915
01:13:57,430 --> 01:13:54,640
you're interested

1916
01:13:58,310 --> 01:13:57,440
oh my gosh absolutely i do love to hear

1917
01:14:01,189 --> 01:13:58,320
yeah when we have

1918
01:14:01,510 --> 01:14:01,199
uh visuals or audio that is connected to

1919
01:14:03,110 --> 01:14:01,520
uh

1920
01:14:04,550 --> 01:14:03,120
a particular podcast we haven't put

1921
01:14:06,390 --> 01:14:04,560
michael schratz up because it's so

1922
01:14:08,470 --> 01:14:06,400
uh in-depth and there's so much to do

1923
01:14:10,229 --> 01:14:08,480
and he most of the visuals we showed

1924
01:14:12,950 --> 01:14:10,239
were in his books we didn't really

1925
01:14:13,990 --> 01:14:12,960
do that but we we like to do a blog post

1926
01:14:16,149 --> 01:14:14,000
on our website

1927
01:14:17,990 --> 01:14:16,159
with uh if there's anything that you'd

1928
01:14:21,430 --> 01:14:18,000
like to send us we'd love to add it to

1929
01:14:23,669 --> 01:14:21,440
a blog post absolutely oh sure we will

1930
01:14:24,470 --> 01:14:23,679
you know we don't have a lot but but we

1931
01:14:27,030 --> 01:14:24,480
got that

1932
01:14:28,870 --> 01:14:27,040
that's awesome yeah that'd be great it's

1933
01:14:30,709 --> 01:14:28,880
about this you know house chad's

1934
01:14:34,229 --> 01:14:30,719
describing to you all about

1935
01:14:36,470 --> 01:14:34,239
rearranged this thing was rearranged

1936
01:14:37,750 --> 01:14:36,480
sort of i mean you know again it's just

1937
01:14:39,750 --> 01:14:37,760
it's mind-blowing

1938
01:14:41,030 --> 01:14:39,760
mind-blowing because chad's describing

1939
01:14:43,430 --> 01:14:41,040
something that he

1940
01:14:44,310 --> 01:14:43,440
understands happened to them 30 years

1941
01:14:49,590 --> 01:14:44,320
ago

1942
01:14:51,990 --> 01:14:49,600
and yet while we're while he's talking

1943
01:14:54,709 --> 01:14:52,000
about that house just last year

1944
01:14:57,030 --> 01:14:54,719
in this interview that male voice is

1945
01:14:59,669 --> 01:14:57,040
repeating his words

1946
01:15:00,630 --> 01:14:59,679
weird did you hear that yeah who opened

1947
01:15:02,310 --> 01:15:00,640
the door

1948
01:15:04,950 --> 01:15:02,320
i don't know it's like a laser gun in

1949
01:15:11,110 --> 01:15:08,950
wow wow so

1950
01:15:13,350 --> 01:15:11,120
so those are kind of his like early

1951
01:15:16,950 --> 01:15:13,360
stories he didn't have a lot

1952
01:15:20,709 --> 01:15:16,960
pretty interesting to me and absolutely

1953
01:15:23,750 --> 01:15:20,719
strange yeah so and

1954
01:15:27,350 --> 01:15:23,760
we moved it we moved to texas

1955
01:15:27,830 --> 01:15:27,360
now we don't uh have i don't have a lot

1956
01:15:31,910 --> 01:15:27,840
of

1957
01:15:35,030 --> 01:15:31,920
experiences to the place in texas

1958
01:15:39,189 --> 01:15:35,040
but uh my little brother

1959
01:15:41,430 --> 01:15:39,199
my with the same mom first mom

1960
01:15:42,470 --> 01:15:41,440
uh your only blood yeah my only breath

1961
01:15:45,669 --> 01:15:42,480
brother

1962
01:15:48,709 --> 01:15:45,679
bro blood sibling yeah uh

1963
01:15:50,390 --> 01:15:48,719
he says that he's in the house one day

1964
01:15:52,470 --> 01:15:50,400
he's five years younger than chad yeah

1965
01:15:55,590 --> 01:15:52,480
he's five years younger than i am

1966
01:15:59,110 --> 01:15:55,600
and i guess he was probably about

1967
01:16:02,870 --> 01:15:59,120
teenagers 14 15 you know years old

1968
01:16:05,910 --> 01:16:02,880
he said he comes home and

1969
01:16:06,550 --> 01:16:05,920
he's all by himself you know dad's gone

1970
01:16:09,990 --> 01:16:06,560
to work

1971
01:16:13,030 --> 01:16:10,000
and stepmom's gone but anyway he's there

1972
01:16:16,229 --> 01:16:13,040
by himself and

1973
01:16:21,030 --> 01:16:16,239
this is where you know the big house was

1974
01:16:25,030 --> 01:16:21,040
and he said all of a sudden

1975
01:16:28,310 --> 01:16:25,040
all the doorknobs all the windows

1976
01:16:32,310 --> 01:16:28,320
all the doors just start rattling

1977
01:16:35,430 --> 01:16:32,320
rattling just one round

1978
01:16:37,030 --> 01:16:35,440
the house isn't moving you know the

1979
01:16:43,590 --> 01:16:37,040
walls aren't vibrating

1980
01:16:48,709 --> 01:16:47,189
he says he leaves the house he goes sits

1981
01:16:50,950 --> 01:16:48,719
on that curb

1982
01:16:52,070 --> 01:16:50,960
and waits for my dad and my my for my

1983
01:16:54,310 --> 01:16:52,080
stepmom to get home

1984
01:16:58,229 --> 01:16:54,320
i ain't going back he's not going back

1985
01:17:02,070 --> 01:17:00,070
i can't what can i ask a quick question

1986
01:17:05,510 --> 01:17:02,080
really quick chad

1987
01:17:07,189 --> 01:17:05,520
uh yeah so um well i wanna i'll wait

1988
01:17:08,630 --> 01:17:07,199
i'll wait to ask this the other question

1989
01:17:10,630 --> 01:17:08,640
but okay so first off

1990
01:17:13,110 --> 01:17:10,640
this house you're speaking of right now

1991
01:17:16,790 --> 01:17:13,120
is in houston correct

1992
01:17:20,390 --> 01:17:16,800
right okay houston texas the house that

1993
01:17:22,870 --> 01:17:20,400
that got redecorated i guess

1994
01:17:24,149 --> 01:17:22,880
was in colorado all right okay and then

1995
01:17:26,790 --> 01:17:24,159
the the

1996
01:17:28,470 --> 01:17:26,800
the rattle that was a throttle and i

1997
01:17:32,229 --> 01:17:28,480
never went there

1998
01:17:35,590 --> 01:17:32,239
but then they moved to this house

1999
01:17:38,149 --> 01:17:35,600
and my brothers and i are there

2000
01:17:39,669 --> 01:17:38,159
and because dad kind of disappeared for

2001
01:17:42,709 --> 01:17:39,679
a little bit you know i mean

2002
01:17:46,229 --> 01:17:42,719
he did his you know it was the 70s

2003
01:17:47,510 --> 01:17:46,239
yeah you know for sure you got to follow

2004
01:17:48,630 --> 01:17:47,520
the dead around like

2005
01:17:51,270 --> 01:17:48,640
the gravel dead i mean that's what

2006
01:17:53,189 --> 01:17:51,280
people did in the seven days

2007
01:17:56,470 --> 01:17:53,199
you know he lived in a van down by the

2008
01:18:01,750 --> 01:18:00,310
oh god yes but that was in houston

2009
01:18:04,470 --> 01:18:01,760
i'm sorry sometimes i'm a terrible

2010
01:18:06,149 --> 01:18:04,480
listener but that you said the

2011
01:18:08,070 --> 01:18:06,159
the rattling the rattling house that

2012
01:18:09,110 --> 01:18:08,080
wasn't used can i ask what part of

2013
01:18:11,830 --> 01:18:09,120
houston

2014
01:18:12,550 --> 01:18:11,840
yeah well it was uh actually in the

2015
01:18:15,910 --> 01:18:12,560
suburbs

2016
01:18:19,990 --> 01:18:15,920
it was laporte okay which is

2017
01:18:23,669 --> 01:18:20,000
uh right outside on the other side

2018
01:18:25,990 --> 01:18:23,679
yeah i've got some family for uh

2019
01:18:26,790 --> 01:18:26,000
yeah there's pasadena and and then

2020
01:18:29,590 --> 01:18:26,800
laporte

2021
01:18:30,950 --> 01:18:29,600
okay i was uh i was curious because i've

2022
01:18:33,350 --> 01:18:30,960
got some family that are that live

2023
01:18:34,709 --> 01:18:33,360
close to houston and uh had it been that

2024
01:18:37,590 --> 01:18:34,719
town it would have been

2025
01:18:38,709 --> 01:18:37,600
pretty synchronicitis if it was yeah

2026
01:18:41,990 --> 01:18:38,719
yeah yeah this is

2027
01:18:45,270 --> 01:18:42,000
laporte this was like you know when the

2028
01:18:48,630 --> 01:18:45,280
the oil boom was going dad was

2029
01:18:51,830 --> 01:18:48,640
a diesel engine i mean we worked on

2030
01:18:55,510 --> 01:18:51,840
red adairs uh they did

2031
01:18:58,950 --> 01:18:55,520
work on the exxon valdez you know

2032
01:19:02,070 --> 01:18:58,960
this was way you know

2033
01:19:05,350 --> 01:19:02,080
back in the oil boom and

2034
01:19:08,630 --> 01:19:05,360
kind of thing yeah so okay

2035
01:19:11,270 --> 01:19:08,640
cool yeah yeah so yeah this was

2036
01:19:13,030 --> 01:19:11,280
that the the rattle shaking with my tell

2037
01:19:15,669 --> 01:19:13,040
them about the dollar

2038
01:19:16,149 --> 01:19:15,679
so okay well all right so i love this

2039
01:19:19,110 --> 01:19:16,159
doll

2040
01:19:20,310 --> 01:19:19,120
i'll move this story a little earlier

2041
01:19:22,070 --> 01:19:20,320
with my brother

2042
01:19:24,149 --> 01:19:22,080
you know since we're just talking about

2043
01:19:34,950 --> 01:19:24,159
my brother

2044
01:19:37,830 --> 01:19:34,960
two girls and two boys

2045
01:19:39,910 --> 01:19:37,840
young you know the little girls are

2046
01:19:44,550 --> 01:19:39,920
still playing with barbie dolls they

2047
01:19:48,709 --> 01:19:44,560
they had this little doll that

2048
01:19:51,830 --> 01:19:48,719
would talk and it just drove them nuts

2049
01:19:52,790 --> 01:19:51,840
you know him and his wife yeah so they

2050
01:19:54,709 --> 01:19:52,800
decide

2051
01:19:55,990 --> 01:19:54,719
we'll just take the batteries out you

2052
01:19:59,669 --> 01:19:56,000
know and put it away

2053
01:20:03,030 --> 01:19:59,679
you know well this dog kept talking

2054
01:20:06,149 --> 01:20:03,040
was it a furby no no

2055
01:20:09,830 --> 01:20:06,159
no it was like a it was like a baby

2056
01:20:13,830 --> 01:20:09,840
okay it's way more creepy

2057
01:20:16,229 --> 01:20:13,840
mommy daddy mommy daddy oh hell no

2058
01:20:21,350 --> 01:20:16,239
yeah yeah you get right yeah hell no

2059
01:20:24,870 --> 01:20:23,669
yeah yeah so they decided to take the

2060
01:20:27,990 --> 01:20:24,880
batteries out with

2061
01:20:31,430 --> 01:20:28,000
kept talking so finally

2062
01:20:33,350 --> 01:20:31,440
he goes you know the kids go to bed he

2063
01:20:36,149 --> 01:20:33,360
goes i'm putting this in the garbage can

2064
01:20:39,030 --> 01:20:36,159
guardsman's coming tomorrow yeah it's

2065
01:20:45,590 --> 01:20:42,470
that's what he says going in the garbage

2066
01:20:46,790 --> 01:20:45,600
so they kept hearing it coming out of

2067
01:20:49,830 --> 01:20:46,800
the garbage can

2068
01:20:53,270 --> 01:20:49,840
you know talking keep talking

2069
01:20:56,310 --> 01:20:53,280
mommy daddy or something you know

2070
01:20:59,189 --> 01:20:56,320
one of those kind of and

2071
01:20:59,750 --> 01:20:59,199
they like watched it go into the garbage

2072
01:21:02,870 --> 01:20:59,760
can

2073
01:21:06,149 --> 01:21:02,880
and still keep talking and

2074
01:21:08,790 --> 01:21:06,159
still gosh so we have no idea

2075
01:21:12,149 --> 01:21:08,800
where that ghosty doll is what was it

2076
01:21:14,790 --> 01:21:12,159
saying like ah it stinks in here

2077
01:21:15,669 --> 01:21:14,800
you know it did you know but with that

2078
01:21:17,430 --> 01:21:15,679
said

2079
01:21:19,750 --> 01:21:17,440
this whole purpose of kind of this

2080
01:21:21,270 --> 01:21:19,760
family the familiar part of this story

2081
01:21:23,270 --> 01:21:21,280
on chad's side

2082
01:21:24,390 --> 01:21:23,280
this brother ain't interested in none of

2083
01:21:33,830 --> 01:21:24,400
this stuff not

2084
01:21:37,910 --> 01:21:37,030
and he's like out in the southwest maybe

2085
01:21:40,070 --> 01:21:37,920
colorado

2086
01:21:41,990 --> 01:21:40,080
we don't know where he was exactly he's

2087
01:21:45,430 --> 01:21:42,000
driving with his wife on the highway

2088
01:21:48,229 --> 01:21:45,440
uh and his day locomotives

2089
01:21:51,110 --> 01:21:48,239
so he goes out and he goes around and

2090
01:21:53,990 --> 01:21:51,120
you know he takes part locomotives

2091
01:21:55,430 --> 01:21:54,000
so he said that they're driving down the

2092
01:21:58,229 --> 01:21:55,440
road just him and his wife

2093
01:21:59,430 --> 01:21:58,239
just him and his wife they've got the uh

2094
01:22:02,310 --> 01:21:59,440
moon roof open

2095
01:22:03,750 --> 01:22:02,320
or whatever it is you know sunroof

2096
01:22:07,110 --> 01:22:03,760
moonroof whatever

2097
01:22:10,629 --> 01:22:07,120
they got it open and they look up

2098
01:22:13,590 --> 01:22:10,639
and they see this fedex

2099
01:22:14,229 --> 01:22:13,600
airplane you know one of those big you

2100
01:22:17,830 --> 01:22:14,239
know

2101
01:22:22,229 --> 01:22:17,840
airplanes yeah tom hanks and uh castaway

2102
01:22:25,430 --> 01:22:22,239
yeah right so they said they look up

2103
01:22:29,030 --> 01:22:25,440
and they're like they see it cut they

2104
01:22:32,629 --> 01:22:29,040
they see it you know ahead of them

2105
01:22:35,590 --> 01:22:32,639
they're driving on the highway but

2106
01:22:36,709 --> 01:22:35,600
it's staying in the same place it's not

2107
01:22:40,950 --> 01:22:36,719
moving they said

2108
01:22:43,910 --> 01:22:40,960
what in the same place they kept driving

2109
01:22:44,470 --> 01:22:43,920
they drive up under it this happened to

2110
01:22:47,110 --> 01:22:44,480
us

2111
01:22:47,510 --> 01:22:47,120
to him three times in a row in a row

2112
01:22:50,830 --> 01:22:47,520
three

2113
01:22:55,830 --> 01:22:50,840
different like two hours

2114
01:22:58,629 --> 01:22:55,840
same it was fedex it was a fedex plane

2115
01:22:58,950 --> 01:22:58,639
three times the last time that they saw

2116
01:23:02,070 --> 01:22:58,960
it

2117
01:23:05,110 --> 01:23:02,080
he actually pulled over finally

2118
01:23:06,550 --> 01:23:05,120
finally they said this is just i mean

2119
01:23:10,149 --> 01:23:06,560
because you would think

2120
01:23:12,310 --> 01:23:10,159
a plane coming out yeah no drugs

2121
01:23:14,229 --> 01:23:12,320
don't do drugs no don't do alcohol right

2122
01:23:15,830 --> 01:23:14,239
they don't drink they straight up so

2123
01:23:18,470 --> 01:23:15,840
they're straight up

2124
01:23:19,270 --> 01:23:18,480
and they said if a plane's coming

2125
01:23:21,830 --> 01:23:19,280
towards you

2126
01:23:22,790 --> 01:23:21,840
and you're driving yeah there's a math

2127
01:23:25,990 --> 01:23:22,800
question in there

2128
01:23:29,189 --> 01:23:26,000
i'm having flashbacks yeah they

2129
01:23:30,229 --> 01:23:29,199
said they pulled finally the third time

2130
01:23:32,870 --> 01:23:30,239
they pulled over

2131
01:23:33,990 --> 01:23:32,880
and just kind of like looked at it like

2132
01:23:36,310 --> 01:23:34,000
they're calling us when this

2133
01:23:39,990 --> 01:23:36,320
is happening they're calling us because

2134
01:23:44,229 --> 01:23:40,000
they we're the freaks of the family

2135
01:23:47,910 --> 01:23:44,239
like oh now they're graduating you know

2136
01:23:50,870 --> 01:23:47,920
can you explain this to me i'm like wow

2137
01:23:55,350 --> 01:23:50,880
yeah i wish i could see that yeah

2138
01:23:59,110 --> 01:23:55,360
oh explanation man yeah no no

2139
01:24:02,390 --> 01:23:59,120
but yeah i mean you know it's kind of

2140
01:24:02,950 --> 01:24:02,400
weird the whole point of this is chad's

2141
01:24:07,030 --> 01:24:02,960
family

2142
01:24:10,229 --> 01:24:07,040
are experiencers they are experiencers

2143
01:24:12,709 --> 01:24:10,239
is we'll get to his dad's stuff later

2144
01:24:13,910 --> 01:24:12,719
with ufos his stepmother the latest one

2145
01:24:17,590 --> 01:24:13,920
that's my age

2146
01:24:19,910 --> 01:24:17,600
ufo stuff they've encountered

2147
01:24:21,350 --> 01:24:19,920
sas i i told you i babied up the

2148
01:24:24,870 --> 01:24:21,360
language so instead of calling him

2149
01:24:26,709 --> 01:24:24,880
sasquatch i call him sasquatchy

2150
01:24:28,870 --> 01:24:26,719
i cannot wait for that story i know it's

2151
01:24:31,350 --> 01:24:28,880
like way further down the line but

2152
01:24:33,110 --> 01:24:31,360
i mean well that's a common cause it's a

2153
01:24:34,629 --> 01:24:33,120
good one

2154
01:24:37,590 --> 01:24:34,639
i know all a lot of our listeners are

2155
01:24:39,510 --> 01:24:37,600
really like they love sasquatch story so

2156
01:24:40,950 --> 01:24:39,520
i love that they're like we've we've

2157
01:24:42,629 --> 01:24:40,960
started with like one of my favorite

2158
01:24:44,629 --> 01:24:42,639
topics which is like

2159
01:24:46,149 --> 01:24:44,639
the the mk ultra stuff like that's some

2160
01:24:48,070 --> 01:24:46,159
deep [\h__\h] that we

2161
01:24:49,830 --> 01:24:48,080
[\h__\h] had that's so cool and now we're

2162
01:24:50,709 --> 01:24:49,840
getting into like family history and

2163
01:24:52,470 --> 01:24:50,719
lineage

2164
01:24:54,070 --> 01:24:52,480
i mean you guys are kind of like

2165
01:24:56,550 --> 01:24:54,080
covering a lot of bases

2166
01:24:57,750 --> 01:24:56,560
and then i i just imagine like people

2167
01:24:59,110 --> 01:24:57,760
listening you're like and they got a

2168
01:25:03,430 --> 01:24:59,120
sasquatch story these guys are the

2169
01:25:07,830 --> 01:25:06,430
right yeah me too i mean yeah separate

2170
01:25:10,790 --> 01:25:07,840
experiences

2171
01:25:11,830 --> 01:25:10,800
yeah so that's pretty much kind of my

2172
01:25:14,629 --> 01:25:11,840
family

2173
01:25:16,390 --> 01:25:14,639
crazy well not even but getting to it a

2174
01:25:20,229 --> 01:25:16,400
little bit of it when it comes to

2175
01:25:23,189 --> 01:25:20,239
other subjects so if you want to go into

2176
01:25:24,709 --> 01:25:23,199
our experiences when would you like to

2177
01:25:26,470 --> 01:25:24,719
go

2178
01:25:28,229 --> 01:25:26,480
let's talk let's talk about hammond

2179
01:25:31,990 --> 01:25:28,239
hammond louisiana the first

2180
01:25:33,830 --> 01:25:32,000
uh mass exciting uh maybe go into that

2181
01:25:36,229 --> 01:25:33,840
because i feel like in this y'all story

2182
01:25:39,669 --> 01:25:36,239
that's around the same time y'all met or

2183
01:25:41,910 --> 01:25:39,679
am i wrong on that or uh

2184
01:25:43,990 --> 01:25:41,920
sorry i'm just reading through the the

2185
01:25:47,110 --> 01:25:44,000
orb ducted in french quarter kind of

2186
01:25:49,189 --> 01:25:47,120
uh i'm kind of bad at reading and and

2187
01:25:52,229 --> 01:25:49,199
talking at the same time

2188
01:25:55,189 --> 01:25:52,239
but if we if you if you like

2189
01:25:55,510 --> 01:25:55,199
chad keeps pointing at me to kind of

2190
01:25:58,149 --> 01:25:55,520
jump

2191
01:25:59,110 --> 01:25:58,159
that part of the story off if you're

2192
01:26:01,510 --> 01:25:59,120
interested we

2193
01:26:02,629 --> 01:26:01,520
we start before the hammond experience

2194
01:26:05,990 --> 01:26:02,639
legit

2195
01:26:09,510 --> 01:26:06,000
story starts in 1990.

2196
01:26:12,790 --> 01:26:09,520
hammond is in 95. let's start at 1990.

2197
01:26:14,709 --> 01:26:12,800
let's do 1990. yep

2198
01:26:16,070 --> 01:26:14,719
so keep in mind i'm 10 years older than

2199
01:26:18,950 --> 01:26:16,080
chad i'm

2200
01:26:20,550 --> 01:26:18,960
33 at the time i've never been married

2201
01:26:21,350 --> 01:26:20,560
and no kids and i'm not interested in

2202
01:26:24,910 --> 01:26:21,360
any of it

2203
01:26:29,350 --> 01:26:24,920
because i don't even understand me yoga

2204
01:26:33,590 --> 01:26:29,360
bachelorette kids poop a lot yeah

2205
01:26:37,750 --> 01:26:33,600
so it happens to be valentine's day

2206
01:26:40,629 --> 01:26:37,760
well that's a day i hate it and me too

2207
01:26:41,830 --> 01:26:40,639
right and i started a new job that i

2208
01:26:45,590 --> 01:26:41,840
hated

2209
01:26:48,149 --> 01:26:45,600
it was medical tech it was medical

2210
01:26:49,590 --> 01:26:48,159
equipment now that's hysterical because

2211
01:26:51,510 --> 01:26:49,600
i don't even know how to turn a computer

2212
01:26:53,350 --> 01:26:51,520
on

2213
01:26:54,870 --> 01:26:53,360
i used to work in the medical field

2214
01:26:56,870 --> 01:26:54,880
hands-on

2215
01:26:59,350 --> 01:26:56,880
physic i worked in physical therapy and

2216
01:26:59,990 --> 01:26:59,360
radiology and all these other areas of

2217
01:27:02,870 --> 01:27:00,000
life

2218
01:27:04,550 --> 01:27:02,880
prior and all of a sudden i'm taking a

2219
01:27:08,149 --> 01:27:04,560
new direction and i'm going to sell

2220
01:27:09,030 --> 01:27:08,159
medical equipment no no well my first

2221
01:27:10,870 --> 01:27:09,040
day is or

2222
01:27:12,070 --> 01:27:10,880
my second or third day whatever i was

2223
01:27:14,790 --> 01:27:12,080
there about that long

2224
01:27:16,390 --> 01:27:14,800
is in this medical equipment place so i

2225
01:27:18,149 --> 01:27:16,400
just shared with you my age they used to

2226
01:27:21,270 --> 01:27:18,159
call me pretty so

2227
01:27:23,270 --> 01:27:21,280
this dude he's married

2228
01:27:24,310 --> 01:27:23,280
he's got a new baby and he don't

2229
01:27:27,110 --> 01:27:24,320
understand why i'm

2230
01:27:28,229 --> 01:27:27,120
why i'm alone he cannot believe that i

2231
01:27:30,070 --> 01:27:28,239
think his name david

2232
01:27:32,229 --> 01:27:30,080
he can't believe that i'm that i don't

2233
01:27:35,270 --> 01:27:32,239
have a date on valentine's day

2234
01:27:37,189 --> 01:27:35,280
so he's not accepting i'm cool i'm great

2235
01:27:39,350 --> 01:27:37,199
everything's fine no he's not going to

2236
01:27:41,110 --> 01:27:39,360
have he says

2237
01:27:42,709 --> 01:27:41,120
we're going to get you a date i'm like

2238
01:27:44,709 --> 01:27:42,719
well i'm not asking

2239
01:27:46,950 --> 01:27:44,719
i don't think i'm interested well you

2240
01:27:47,910 --> 01:27:46,960
don't care next thing i know he's on the

2241
01:27:50,229 --> 01:27:47,920
telephone

2242
01:27:51,750 --> 01:27:50,239
he's talking to somebody and i hear me

2243
01:27:53,590 --> 01:27:51,760
being described

2244
01:27:55,189 --> 01:27:53,600
now i'm standing outside his office and

2245
01:27:59,430 --> 01:27:55,199
i'm thinking damn i

2246
01:28:02,709 --> 01:27:59,440
i'd date me i sound good

2247
01:28:05,750 --> 01:28:02,719
dang right so

2248
01:28:07,590 --> 01:28:05,760
i'm like he's now got my attention

2249
01:28:09,430 --> 01:28:07,600
well the next thing i hear that was a

2250
01:28:10,550 --> 01:28:09,440
short conversation because whoever he's

2251
01:28:12,470 --> 01:28:10,560
talking to

2252
01:28:14,070 --> 01:28:12,480
sounds like he's interested but he's got

2253
01:28:16,470 --> 01:28:14,080
to work that night so he

2254
01:28:17,830 --> 01:28:16,480
can't make this valentine's i'm i i

2255
01:28:20,149 --> 01:28:17,840
worked at like the

2256
01:28:22,550 --> 01:28:20,159
local oyster bar who said we were

2257
01:28:24,310 --> 01:28:22,560
talking about you

2258
01:28:26,310 --> 01:28:24,320
hey you know it's it fits in with the

2259
01:28:30,550 --> 01:28:26,320
store uh story you know

2260
01:28:32,070 --> 01:28:30,560
oysters aphrodisiac valentine's day

2261
01:28:33,830 --> 01:28:32,080
well we're gonna get into that oyster

2262
01:28:36,310 --> 01:28:33,840
stuff here in a second all right

2263
01:28:37,189 --> 01:28:36,320
so just leading you into the build up on

2264
01:28:40,950 --> 01:28:37,199
this story

2265
01:28:43,030 --> 01:28:40,960
so now i'm real not happy

2266
01:28:44,629 --> 01:28:43,040
not only do i not want a blind date i

2267
01:28:47,270 --> 01:28:44,639
can't get one

2268
01:28:48,070 --> 01:28:47,280
and i'm just right i'm just not a happy

2269
01:28:49,830 --> 01:28:48,080
girl

2270
01:28:52,550 --> 01:28:49,840
so that day went bad and just went

2271
01:28:55,510 --> 01:28:52,560
downhill i get off work at five-ish

2272
01:28:58,470 --> 01:28:55,520
whatever i'm in suit like back in the

2273
01:29:00,790 --> 01:28:58,480
day and high heels and all that junk

2274
01:29:02,550 --> 01:29:00,800
i hate those clothes so first thing i

2275
01:29:03,510 --> 01:29:02,560
want to do is go home get out of those

2276
01:29:05,350 --> 01:29:03,520
clothes

2277
01:29:06,950 --> 01:29:05,360
i happen to be staying with my mom at

2278
01:29:10,470 --> 01:29:06,960
the time that was feeling

2279
01:29:12,470 --> 01:29:10,480
pretty pathetic also and

2280
01:29:14,390 --> 01:29:12,480
i didn't want to be with my mom either

2281
01:29:14,790 --> 01:29:14,400
and it was just convenient and what have

2282
01:29:16,870 --> 01:29:14,800
you

2283
01:29:18,870 --> 01:29:16,880
so i decided well i don't want to hang

2284
01:29:19,270 --> 01:29:18,880
with my mom for valentine's day that

2285
01:29:20,950 --> 01:29:19,280
night

2286
01:29:22,870 --> 01:29:20,960
she's very cool but i just didn't want

2287
01:29:24,950 --> 01:29:22,880
to and so

2288
01:29:26,310 --> 01:29:24,960
i get home and i did something extremely

2289
01:29:28,470 --> 01:29:26,320
out of character which is why i'm giving

2290
01:29:29,990 --> 01:29:28,480
you all these details extremely out of

2291
01:29:32,390 --> 01:29:30,000
character for me

2292
01:29:35,110 --> 01:29:32,400
two things one is to drink and drive now

2293
01:29:37,990 --> 01:29:35,120
i'm no prude and i ain't no angel

2294
01:29:38,870 --> 01:29:38,000
but i'm smart and i just didn't drink

2295
01:29:41,830 --> 01:29:38,880
and drive

2296
01:29:44,950 --> 01:29:41,840
i like riding i like running i like

2297
01:29:46,390 --> 01:29:44,960
being limoed or i i'm i'm yeah

2298
01:29:47,830 --> 01:29:46,400
it doesn't have to be a limo but i want

2299
01:29:49,270 --> 01:29:47,840
somebody else driving i don't think

2300
01:29:57,350 --> 01:29:49,280
she's driving

2301
01:30:01,590 --> 01:30:00,470
that's right yes bad you're starting to

2302
01:30:04,629 --> 01:30:01,600
see chad

2303
01:30:07,590 --> 01:30:04,639
so i do this very

2304
01:30:08,950 --> 01:30:07,600
all of this is so out of character which

2305
01:30:11,830 --> 01:30:08,960
is why i'm pointing this out

2306
01:30:13,910 --> 01:30:11,840
i go home i get out of my suit and high

2307
01:30:15,189 --> 01:30:13,920
heels i put on my jeans and my tennies

2308
01:30:16,790 --> 01:30:15,199
and my t-shirt

2309
01:30:18,790 --> 01:30:16,800
and i'm going to go somewhere and have a

2310
01:30:21,110 --> 01:30:18,800
drink that's the other things

2311
01:30:22,070 --> 01:30:21,120
very out of character i never went

2312
01:30:26,229 --> 01:30:22,080
anywhere alone

2313
01:30:28,470 --> 01:30:26,239
not ever ever and i'm extremely social

2314
01:30:30,149 --> 01:30:28,480
well not on this day on this day i'm in

2315
01:30:33,430 --> 01:30:30,159
a foul mood

2316
01:30:35,830 --> 01:30:33,440
my my whatever is sinking deeply and i'm

2317
01:30:39,350 --> 01:30:35,840
going to do a couple things i don't do

2318
01:30:41,350 --> 01:30:39,360
so once i get in the car in my car to

2319
01:30:43,830 --> 01:30:41,360
go off on my little adventure i'm now in

2320
01:30:45,270 --> 01:30:43,840
my car driving saying what the hell am i

2321
01:30:47,110 --> 01:30:45,280
doing

2322
01:30:48,550 --> 01:30:47,120
out of state for several years i was

2323
01:30:50,629 --> 01:30:48,560
living in california

2324
01:30:52,390 --> 01:30:50,639
i'd come back to arkansas my mother had

2325
01:30:55,510 --> 01:30:52,400
moved i didn't know her neighborhood at

2326
01:30:57,189 --> 01:30:55,520
all i didn't even know where i was

2327
01:30:59,830 --> 01:30:57,199
in terms of you know all the ins and

2328
01:31:01,590 --> 01:30:59,840
outs my mom was kind of a big deal she

2329
01:31:03,830 --> 01:31:01,600
was sort of a big fish in a little pond

2330
01:31:07,430 --> 01:31:03,840
in little rock arkansas at the time

2331
01:31:08,870 --> 01:31:07,440
so i'm feeling fairly safe uh thinking

2332
01:31:10,390 --> 01:31:08,880
you know people think of my mama is like

2333
01:31:13,510 --> 01:31:10,400
a big mama bear

2334
01:31:16,709 --> 01:31:13,520
and i look identical to her so

2335
01:31:19,030 --> 01:31:16,719
i'm pretty sure i'm gonna be okay uh

2336
01:31:20,390 --> 01:31:19,040
just kind of you know impressing myself

2337
01:31:22,310 --> 01:31:20,400
with i'm okay

2338
01:31:24,070 --> 01:31:22,320
but once i got in the car i had no idea

2339
01:31:25,030 --> 01:31:24,080
where i was and i had no idea where to

2340
01:31:27,669 --> 01:31:25,040
go

2341
01:31:28,149 --> 01:31:27,679
next thing i know conveniently take note

2342
01:31:31,270 --> 01:31:28,159
of that

2343
01:31:33,110 --> 01:31:31,280
all convenient there's a little puff a

2344
01:31:35,830 --> 01:31:33,120
little pub

2345
01:31:36,470 --> 01:31:35,840
not far from where my mama stayed and i

2346
01:31:37,990 --> 01:31:36,480
mean

2347
01:31:39,830 --> 01:31:38,000
it looked like something you'd see in

2348
01:31:43,030 --> 01:31:39,840
ireland or scotland

2349
01:31:45,430 --> 01:31:43,040
no it's something yeah it's tiny

2350
01:31:46,790 --> 01:31:45,440
all it was missing was a thatched roof

2351
01:31:49,030 --> 01:31:46,800
and i think

2352
01:31:51,350 --> 01:31:49,040
well this is close and it looks homey

2353
01:31:53,750 --> 01:31:51,360
and how dangerous can it be

2354
01:31:54,709 --> 01:31:53,760
i pull in now this is i got off work at

2355
01:31:58,149 --> 01:31:54,719
five ish

2356
01:32:01,110 --> 01:31:58,159
this is somewhere sixish light is still

2357
01:32:02,149 --> 01:32:01,120
out it's still daylight so i could see

2358
01:32:04,629 --> 01:32:02,159
everything around me

2359
01:32:05,590 --> 01:32:04,639
i pull into this empty little tiny

2360
01:32:09,030 --> 01:32:05,600
parking lot

2361
01:32:12,149 --> 01:32:09,040
to go into this tiny pub

2362
01:32:13,430 --> 01:32:12,159
i walk inside well no surprise there's

2363
01:32:16,229 --> 01:32:13,440
not a soul in there

2364
01:32:18,709 --> 01:32:16,239
there's nobody in there this thing is

2365
01:32:21,910 --> 01:32:18,719
big enough to hold a pool table

2366
01:32:22,709 --> 01:32:21,920
a couple i think funky wood tables and

2367
01:32:25,430 --> 01:32:22,719
chairs

2368
01:32:26,229 --> 01:32:25,440
and an old bar an old wood bar that

2369
01:32:28,149 --> 01:32:26,239
sounds like my

2370
01:32:29,430 --> 01:32:28,159
favorite bar yeah i love that i love

2371
01:32:33,030 --> 01:32:29,440
those hole in the wall

2372
01:32:34,149 --> 01:32:33,040
places yes it's us that's that is truly

2373
01:32:37,110 --> 01:32:34,159
us

2374
01:32:38,390 --> 01:32:37,120
so so that's what i'm experiencing as

2375
01:32:41,830 --> 01:32:38,400
i'm walking in

2376
01:32:44,470 --> 01:32:41,840
now i'm like there's nobody here

2377
01:32:45,910 --> 01:32:44,480
there's nothing here what are you doing

2378
01:32:47,030 --> 01:32:45,920
alex or what are you doing what's

2379
01:32:50,870 --> 01:32:47,040
happening something

2380
01:32:52,550 --> 01:32:50,880
drew you there like oh oh the story gets

2381
01:32:55,990 --> 01:32:52,560
much better

2382
01:32:59,030 --> 01:32:56,000
i'll speed it up no around the corner

2383
01:32:59,590 --> 01:32:59,040
sorry just go into deeper yeah so around

2384
01:33:03,270 --> 01:32:59,600
the corner

2385
01:33:05,510 --> 01:33:03,280
comes this little round pudgy rosy cheek

2386
01:33:07,350 --> 01:33:05,520
white-haired grandma looking like

2387
01:33:09,430 --> 01:33:07,360
something you'd see in germany or like i

2388
01:33:11,990 --> 01:33:09,440
said scotland or yeah

2389
01:33:15,030 --> 01:33:12,000
some pub a grandma that's what i needed

2390
01:33:17,990 --> 01:33:15,040
i needed a grandma figure

2391
01:33:20,149 --> 01:33:18,000
yeah so she comes around the corner you

2392
01:33:23,270 --> 01:33:20,159
know and and i ordered a beer

2393
01:33:24,070 --> 01:33:23,280
it was on tap so bef she gets that

2394
01:33:26,310 --> 01:33:24,080
poured

2395
01:33:28,709 --> 01:33:26,320
that's my memory and the next thing i

2396
01:33:34,830 --> 01:33:28,719
know the door opens

2397
01:33:42,629 --> 01:33:38,870
now trying to paint that picture for you

2398
01:33:45,830 --> 01:33:42,639
one has got black hair and one is blonde

2399
01:33:50,149 --> 01:33:45,840
they are both beyond beautiful

2400
01:33:53,590 --> 01:33:50,159
they're beyond they're beyond they're

2401
01:33:56,950 --> 01:33:53,600
both extremely well dressed

2402
01:33:59,030 --> 01:33:56,960
casual but expensive one's got on a

2403
01:34:01,350 --> 01:33:59,040
leather the blonde has a leather bomber

2404
01:34:04,550 --> 01:34:01,360
jacket on

2405
01:34:08,229 --> 01:34:04,560
and well-dressed and black-haired dude

2406
01:34:11,110 --> 01:34:08,239
he's well-dressed but again casual

2407
01:34:12,390 --> 01:34:11,120
and uh expensive casual that's the only

2408
01:34:14,550 --> 01:34:12,400
one how to describe it

2409
01:34:15,830 --> 01:34:14,560
and they were gorgeous did i mention

2410
01:34:17,510 --> 01:34:15,840
gorgeous they were gorgeous

2411
01:34:19,430 --> 01:34:17,520
i love it me and joe are thinking like

2412
01:34:22,470 --> 01:34:19,440
you're describing us driving us

2413
01:34:25,110 --> 01:34:22,480
blonde brown hair gorgeous

2414
01:34:28,470 --> 01:34:25,120
i was painting a picture of you both is

2415
01:34:33,030 --> 01:34:31,510
so as as i take note of this because

2416
01:34:36,310 --> 01:34:33,040
there's nobody else there and

2417
01:34:37,110 --> 01:34:36,320
we're almost on top of each other smiled

2418
01:34:40,550 --> 01:34:37,120
at me

2419
01:34:43,189 --> 01:34:40,560
and i remember thinking okay this is

2420
01:34:45,350 --> 01:34:43,199
bizarre i don't even know where the hell

2421
01:34:46,390 --> 01:34:45,360
i am and who are they and what are they

2422
01:34:49,510 --> 01:34:46,400
doing here

2423
01:34:51,590 --> 01:34:49,520
yeah it's all through my mind instantly

2424
01:34:53,270 --> 01:34:51,600
so i do remember when the door opened it

2425
01:34:56,310 --> 01:34:53,280
sounds like a creepy movie but i

2426
01:35:03,030 --> 01:34:56,320
swear i saw light now it's daylight

2427
01:35:07,590 --> 01:35:05,430
of the angels right so as they walk well

2428
01:35:08,310 --> 01:35:07,600
what's even more interesting to me is i

2429
01:35:11,830 --> 01:35:08,320
had no

2430
01:35:15,990 --> 01:35:11,840
interest in them at all not at all

2431
01:35:18,470 --> 01:35:16,000
i'm single and and very single

2432
01:35:20,790 --> 01:35:18,480
and and they are did i mention gorgeous

2433
01:35:28,790 --> 01:35:24,229
i had no interest i was just

2434
01:35:31,350 --> 01:35:28,800
puzzled i felt puzzled and so

2435
01:35:33,270 --> 01:35:31,360
i think one of them must have asked me

2436
01:35:36,470 --> 01:35:33,280
if i wanted to play pool

2437
01:35:39,270 --> 01:35:36,480
you know okay before

2438
01:35:40,390 --> 01:35:39,280
we even get into that pool game the next

2439
01:35:43,189 --> 01:35:40,400
thing i know is

2440
01:35:44,870 --> 01:35:43,199
one of them i don't remember which says

2441
01:35:46,870 --> 01:35:44,880
to me is there anything else

2442
01:35:48,470 --> 01:35:46,880
is there anything else basically in

2443
01:35:50,550 --> 01:35:48,480
paraphrasing this part of it

2444
01:35:53,350 --> 01:35:50,560
anything else happening in this city

2445
01:35:56,950 --> 01:35:53,360
more lively

2446
01:35:57,750 --> 01:35:56,960
yeah i'm thinking oh you don't belong

2447
01:35:59,270 --> 01:35:57,760
here either

2448
01:36:01,109 --> 01:35:59,280
you don't know where you are either

2449
01:36:03,990 --> 01:36:01,119
because you're asking me

2450
01:36:05,430 --> 01:36:04,000
yeah right so so i'm taking notes of all

2451
01:36:08,790 --> 01:36:05,440
of this in my head

2452
01:36:10,070 --> 01:36:08,800
well i make it real clear i think i have

2453
01:36:12,790 --> 01:36:10,080
no idea

2454
01:36:14,550 --> 01:36:12,800
i'm kind of new back in this city but

2455
01:36:15,350 --> 01:36:14,560
the only place that i could think of

2456
01:36:17,590 --> 01:36:15,360
that i thought

2457
01:36:19,189 --> 01:36:17,600
and felt like i was going to be safe as

2458
01:36:21,750 --> 01:36:19,199
crazy as that sounds

2459
01:36:23,510 --> 01:36:21,760
is a huge sports bar in the middle of

2460
01:36:24,070 --> 01:36:23,520
the city now we're talking little rock

2461
01:36:27,750 --> 01:36:24,080
arkansas

2462
01:36:30,390 --> 01:36:27,760
we're talking clinton country so

2463
01:36:31,669 --> 01:36:30,400
this this was in 1990 this is definitely

2464
01:36:34,390 --> 01:36:31,679
clinton country

2465
01:36:35,510 --> 01:36:34,400
so my mother was affiliated with bill

2466
01:36:38,870 --> 01:36:35,520
clinton

2467
01:36:40,390 --> 01:36:38,880
so again i felt more than protected

2468
01:36:42,790 --> 01:36:40,400
the only thing that came to mind was the

2469
01:36:45,030 --> 01:36:42,800
sports bar i had never been there

2470
01:36:46,870 --> 01:36:45,040
i'd never been there but that's the

2471
01:36:50,390 --> 01:36:46,880
place that i chose

2472
01:36:52,470 --> 01:36:50,400
i have no memory of leaving that pub

2473
01:36:53,669 --> 01:36:52,480
and and that look and getting to that

2474
01:36:55,430 --> 01:36:53,679
second location

2475
01:36:57,109 --> 01:36:55,440
there's no memory now i don't even

2476
01:36:59,270 --> 01:36:57,119
remember drinking that here

2477
01:37:00,470 --> 01:36:59,280
now i'm just here to tell you i can

2478
01:37:03,590 --> 01:37:00,480
drink

2479
01:37:04,709 --> 01:37:03,600
i need bread i just we just moved from

2480
01:37:07,990 --> 01:37:04,719
the french quarter so

2481
01:37:09,669 --> 01:37:08,000
yeah oh yeah well there you go you got

2482
01:37:11,270 --> 01:37:09,679
you gotta there's like you have to pass

2483
01:37:11,830 --> 01:37:11,280
a test before you can actually buy there

2484
01:37:13,750 --> 01:37:11,840
right or

2485
01:37:15,350 --> 01:37:13,760
rent you have to you have to drink a

2486
01:37:18,470 --> 01:37:15,360
couple of pints and be

2487
01:37:21,910 --> 01:37:18,480
able to walk straight right exactly

2488
01:37:24,709 --> 01:37:21,920
and so again the whole point is is you

2489
01:37:27,990 --> 01:37:24,719
know i don't remember drinking that beer

2490
01:37:30,950 --> 01:37:28,000
and yet my lights go out

2491
01:37:33,590 --> 01:37:30,960
between point a and point b my lights

2492
01:37:36,550 --> 01:37:33,600
come back on when we get to point b

2493
01:37:38,310 --> 01:37:36,560
and we're now at that sports bar

2494
01:37:40,390 --> 01:37:38,320
apparently i drove us

2495
01:37:41,669 --> 01:37:40,400
but i have no memory of any of that oh

2496
01:37:44,790 --> 01:37:41,679
you're a good driver

2497
01:37:48,070 --> 01:37:44,800
yeah right no memory of that

2498
01:37:50,790 --> 01:37:48,080
and so we get so we get

2499
01:37:52,950 --> 01:37:50,800
there and again i still have no interest

2500
01:37:55,030 --> 01:37:52,960
in them

2501
01:37:56,470 --> 01:37:55,040
i remember i got a girlfriend that lives

2502
01:37:57,669 --> 01:37:56,480
up the street that i used to work in

2503
01:37:59,990 --> 01:37:57,679
radiology with

2504
01:38:00,790 --> 01:38:00,000
she's same age as i am she's never been

2505
01:38:03,430 --> 01:38:00,800
married

2506
01:38:04,790 --> 01:38:03,440
and she's single so i'm like i'm going

2507
01:38:08,149 --> 01:38:04,800
to call her

2508
01:38:08,870 --> 01:38:08,159
so i call her well i remember her being

2509
01:38:10,790 --> 01:38:08,880
there at that

2510
01:38:12,629 --> 01:38:10,800
sports bar before we hung that phone up

2511
01:38:29,270 --> 01:38:12,639
when i mentioned how gorgeous

2512
01:38:34,790 --> 01:38:32,709
totally and again the bizarre behavior

2513
01:38:38,229 --> 01:38:34,800
as i said to you i'm very social

2514
01:38:40,470 --> 01:38:38,239
but not that night my memory is

2515
01:38:41,430 --> 01:38:40,480
when they when she got there it's almost

2516
01:38:47,270 --> 01:38:41,440
like

2517
01:38:49,109 --> 01:38:47,280
said to myself internally i don't want

2518
01:38:51,750 --> 01:38:49,119
to be around any of them

2519
01:38:52,229 --> 01:38:51,760
and i went to the other side of the bar

2520
01:38:55,669 --> 01:38:52,239
i went

2521
01:38:58,310 --> 01:38:55,679
up to the bar where the bar actually was

2522
01:38:59,109 --> 01:38:58,320
away from the tables and all the people

2523
01:39:01,990 --> 01:38:59,119
and whatever

2524
01:39:02,550 --> 01:39:02,000
and i sat up at that bar all by myself

2525
01:39:05,830 --> 01:39:02,560
in the

2526
01:39:10,390 --> 01:39:05,840
darkest of moods my mood was so dark

2527
01:39:12,470 --> 01:39:10,400
and it was sinking and the owner

2528
01:39:14,310 --> 01:39:12,480
came over and spoke to me and i told him

2529
01:39:16,390 --> 01:39:14,320
he reckoned he didn't know me but as

2530
01:39:18,870 --> 01:39:16,400
soon as i told him i was pam's daughter

2531
01:39:19,830 --> 01:39:18,880
plus i looked just like her he knew who

2532
01:39:22,070 --> 01:39:19,840
i was

2533
01:39:23,830 --> 01:39:22,080
so i remember we were trying to have

2534
01:39:25,590 --> 01:39:23,840
some kind of conversation

2535
01:39:27,669 --> 01:39:25,600
but i can barely remember because i was

2536
01:39:30,790 --> 01:39:27,679
sinking deep sinking

2537
01:39:33,189 --> 01:39:30,800
i'd left my friend with these men

2538
01:39:33,910 --> 01:39:33,199
whatever they were on the other side of

2539
01:39:36,310 --> 01:39:33,920
the bar

2540
01:39:37,910 --> 01:39:36,320
that's just that's not me that is not me

2541
01:39:40,310 --> 01:39:37,920
yeah so

2542
01:39:41,830 --> 01:39:40,320
before midnight on valentine's day take

2543
01:39:45,590 --> 01:39:41,840
note of that

2544
01:39:47,750 --> 01:39:45,600
all of a sudden i'm at that bar by

2545
01:39:51,030 --> 01:39:47,760
myself looking down at the floor

2546
01:39:54,470 --> 01:39:51,040
and i see some funky tennis shoes

2547
01:39:58,310 --> 01:39:54,480
all of a sudden standing next to me

2548
01:39:59,990 --> 01:39:58,320
now this voice comes out of those shoes

2549
01:40:01,510 --> 01:40:00,000
not literally the shoes but the body

2550
01:40:04,870 --> 01:40:01,520
attached to them

2551
01:40:06,070 --> 01:40:04,880
and this voice was so sweet and it was

2552
01:40:09,350 --> 01:40:06,080
so nice

2553
01:40:11,750 --> 01:40:09,360
and polite sounding that

2554
01:40:13,430 --> 01:40:11,760
that voice asked me if i wanted to go

2555
01:40:17,350 --> 01:40:13,440
play pinball

2556
01:40:20,790 --> 01:40:17,360
so i hate pinball i hate it so

2557
01:40:23,990 --> 01:40:20,800
was it chad was it you so

2558
01:40:27,830 --> 01:40:24,000
again this was the same day that i got a

2559
01:40:30,149 --> 01:40:27,840
call from this david guy and he goes man

2560
01:40:33,510 --> 01:40:30,159
i got this girl i want you to meet man

2561
01:40:34,950 --> 01:40:33,520
let's go have yeah you know let's go

2562
01:40:37,350 --> 01:40:34,960
this is that story where he couldn't

2563
01:40:39,750 --> 01:40:37,360
make the date this is and i'm like

2564
01:40:41,430 --> 01:40:39,760
i'm like well i can't man i work at the

2565
01:40:43,590 --> 01:40:41,440
oyster bar i don't want to but i

2566
01:40:45,510 --> 01:40:43,600
got this he goes just call in sick i'm

2567
01:40:51,910 --> 01:40:45,520
like man it's valentine's day at an

2568
01:40:55,109 --> 01:40:54,470
they would kick my butt tomorrow i'm

2569
01:40:58,390 --> 01:40:55,119
like no

2570
01:41:00,070 --> 01:40:58,400
i can't man i said you know i i i'm

2571
01:41:03,590 --> 01:41:00,080
interested i want to

2572
01:41:06,870 --> 01:41:03,600
meet this person but yeah anyway

2573
01:41:10,310 --> 01:41:06,880
so the oyster bar i worked at

2574
01:41:14,470 --> 01:41:10,320
uh she the the owner

2575
01:41:22,470 --> 01:41:14,480
owner is one she only hired men

2576
01:41:26,950 --> 01:41:25,430
it was like she goes i mean and she had

2577
01:41:30,470 --> 01:41:26,960
anywhere from like

2578
01:41:33,109 --> 01:41:30,480
doctor wanted guna bees

2579
01:41:33,990 --> 01:41:33,119
to just like bill clinton you know all

2580
01:41:35,510 --> 01:41:34,000
the politicians

2581
01:41:37,189 --> 01:41:35,520
yeah we were right down there it was a

2582
01:41:37,830 --> 01:41:37,199
dive that they all had yeah it was a

2583
01:41:39,669 --> 01:41:37,840
dive

2584
01:41:41,830 --> 01:41:39,679
right around the corner it's from the

2585
01:41:42,790 --> 01:41:41,840
white uh not from the white house but

2586
01:41:44,550 --> 01:41:42,800
from governors

2587
01:41:46,070 --> 01:41:44,560
governors yeah yeah yeah it's a dive

2588
01:41:48,470 --> 01:41:46,080
that all of these you know

2589
01:41:51,030 --> 01:41:48,480
we would have politicians to you know

2590
01:41:54,390 --> 01:41:51,040
the local drunk come in there

2591
01:41:57,910 --> 01:41:54,400
you know is a great place yeah so

2592
01:42:01,030 --> 01:41:57,920
i'm like so i go in i do my shift

2593
01:42:02,709 --> 01:42:01,040
and none of us had dates you know after

2594
01:42:05,510 --> 01:42:02,719
we got off work

2595
01:42:06,310 --> 01:42:05,520
so we're like okay and and everybody's

2596
01:42:08,709 --> 01:42:06,320
like

2597
01:42:10,310 --> 01:42:08,719
well let's go play some darts we'll go

2598
01:42:11,990 --> 01:42:10,320
over to this place i'm like well i've

2599
01:42:13,990 --> 01:42:12,000
never been there there's only a couple

2600
01:42:17,270 --> 01:42:14,000
of blocks from my house i'm like

2601
01:42:20,390 --> 01:42:17,280
yeah let's go and i'm like

2602
01:42:23,590 --> 01:42:20,400
and when i get there now i'm with

2603
01:42:26,390 --> 01:42:23,600
like at least eight of my buddies

2604
01:42:26,870 --> 01:42:26,400
at least eight of my buddies you know

2605
01:42:31,270 --> 01:42:26,880
that

2606
01:42:33,590 --> 01:42:31,280
start playing darts

2607
01:42:35,109 --> 01:42:33,600
well i'm like you know i don't want to

2608
01:42:36,310 --> 01:42:35,119
play darts

2609
01:42:38,550 --> 01:42:36,320
i'm going to go over here and play

2610
01:42:40,149 --> 01:42:38,560
pinball and i think i went over there

2611
01:42:43,669 --> 01:42:40,159
and played pinball

2612
01:42:48,709 --> 01:42:43,679
and then i saw this

2613
01:42:52,149 --> 01:42:50,810
so

2614
01:43:08,830 --> 01:42:52,159
[Music]

2615
01:43:13,669 --> 01:43:11,830
uh deep fryer

2616
01:43:14,950 --> 01:43:13,679
so i hear this do you want to play

2617
01:43:17,590 --> 01:43:14,960
pinball

2618
01:43:19,830 --> 01:43:17,600
and i start from his feet with my head

2619
01:43:21,270 --> 01:43:19,840
and i start up his legs and i'm about

2620
01:43:24,950 --> 01:43:21,280
ready to let him have it

2621
01:43:27,590 --> 01:43:24,960
yeah she's like i hate

2622
01:43:28,390 --> 01:43:27,600
right i'm like just saying all this

2623
01:43:31,270 --> 01:43:28,400
nastiness

2624
01:43:33,030 --> 01:43:31,280
and then i get to his face and here's

2625
01:43:36,390 --> 01:43:33,040
his beautiful blue eyes

2626
01:43:38,310 --> 01:43:36,400
so his beautiful smile so

2627
01:43:41,189 --> 01:43:38,320
she goes oh okay well i'll come play

2628
01:43:44,390 --> 01:43:41,199
pinball with you i hate pinball but

2629
01:43:46,390 --> 01:43:44,400
i'll i'll come play pinball with you and

2630
01:43:48,550 --> 01:43:46,400
so we go over there and i'll never

2631
01:43:49,109 --> 01:43:48,560
forget no i always want to get one of

2632
01:43:51,270 --> 01:43:49,119
these

2633
01:43:52,790 --> 01:43:51,280
this when i hit that lottery i'll have

2634
01:43:57,030 --> 01:43:52,800
one but it was a

2635
01:44:00,149 --> 01:43:57,040
elvira pinball machine all right

2636
01:44:02,149 --> 01:44:00,159
yeah yeah i just

2637
01:44:03,830 --> 01:44:02,159
i just watched it and watched one of her

2638
01:44:06,629 --> 01:44:03,840
movies the other day

2639
01:44:08,390 --> 01:44:06,639
absolutely and you know you would hit

2640
01:44:09,109 --> 01:44:08,400
one thing and you'd go don't touch me

2641
01:44:12,390 --> 01:44:09,119
there

2642
01:44:15,430 --> 01:44:12,400
you know the adam's family

2643
01:44:18,870 --> 01:44:15,440
no elvira you

2644
01:44:21,990 --> 01:44:18,880
you know how virus bin's pop culture

2645
01:44:22,550 --> 01:44:22,000
knowledge is is is a little weird in the

2646
01:44:27,430 --> 01:44:22,560
dark

2647
01:44:31,830 --> 01:44:27,440
you know she's known for her uh

2648
01:44:35,109 --> 01:44:31,840
great acting skills yeah that's it

2649
01:44:36,790 --> 01:44:35,119
yeah dude okay

2650
01:44:38,310 --> 01:44:36,800
i just want to say really quick it's not

2651
01:44:40,310 --> 01:44:38,320
like anything profound but

2652
01:44:42,070 --> 01:44:40,320
first off chad i need to see a picture

2653
01:44:44,709 --> 01:44:42,080
of you because you sound gorgeous

2654
01:44:45,990 --> 01:44:44,719
first off and second of all y'all just

2655
01:44:48,390 --> 01:44:46,000
completely like

2656
01:44:49,109 --> 01:44:48,400
quentin tarantino this whole story on us

2657
01:44:51,030 --> 01:44:49,119
like like

2658
01:44:52,870 --> 01:44:51,040
awesome i have a movie i have a movie

2659
01:44:56,870 --> 01:44:52,880
playing in my head and it's so

2660
01:45:00,070 --> 01:44:56,880
vivid uh i uh i love that

2661
01:45:03,270 --> 01:45:00,080
so so that play-doh

2662
01:45:04,629 --> 01:45:03,280
right a pinball and she goes well

2663
01:45:06,390 --> 01:45:04,639
and i'm like you want to play another

2664
01:45:09,189 --> 01:45:06,400
game she goes yeah

2665
01:45:09,669 --> 01:45:09,199
uh by the way what's your name yeah and

2666
01:45:12,950 --> 01:45:09,679
i'm like

2667
01:45:16,229 --> 01:45:12,960
chad she goes chat

2668
01:45:19,910 --> 01:45:16,239
she goes do you know a guy named david

2669
01:45:23,189 --> 01:45:19,920
i'm like yeah did he call you today

2670
01:45:27,750 --> 01:45:23,199
yeah did he want to set you up with a

2671
01:45:31,189 --> 01:45:27,760
a a person named alta i said yeah

2672
01:45:34,629 --> 01:45:31,199
i'm alta oh

2673
01:45:35,510 --> 01:45:34,639
that's hilarious dude that's dope it was

2674
01:45:38,390 --> 01:45:35,520
like

2675
01:45:39,109 --> 01:45:38,400
where are you it didn't happen i mean it

2676
01:45:42,390 --> 01:45:39,119
was like

2677
01:45:45,669 --> 01:45:42,400
it's beyond synchronicity oh yeah i am

2678
01:45:49,030 --> 01:45:45,679
arranged can i say that i

2679
01:45:52,070 --> 01:45:49,040
okay i might be uh totally

2680
01:45:53,830 --> 01:45:52,080
uh subliminally guided in the

2681
01:45:55,910 --> 01:45:53,840
in the way that i kind of know the

2682
01:45:56,629 --> 01:45:55,920
outline of your story like not really at

2683
01:45:58,950 --> 01:45:56,639
all but

2684
01:46:00,470 --> 01:45:58,960
you have said the word arranged and now

2685
01:46:00,870 --> 01:46:00,480
that i'm thinking about it i'm thinking

2686
01:46:04,229 --> 01:46:00,880
those

2687
01:46:07,750 --> 01:46:04,239
two angelic gentlemen might have been uh

2688
01:46:10,709 --> 01:46:07,760
how do you say uh uh men in black or

2689
01:46:11,270 --> 01:46:10,719
or maybe some kind of uh right some some

2690
01:46:15,430 --> 01:46:11,280
time

2691
01:46:16,390 --> 01:46:15,440
correct like hey she's not supposed

2692
01:46:19,510 --> 01:46:16,400
she's supposed to meet

2693
01:46:22,470 --> 01:46:19,520
uh chad tonight we got to go in let's go

2694
01:46:23,350 --> 01:46:22,480
yeah and the story gets better give him

2695
01:46:26,390 --> 01:46:23,360
one more minute

2696
01:46:29,750 --> 01:46:26,400
wow there's there's

2697
01:46:32,950 --> 01:46:29,760
we i mean for david my buddy

2698
01:46:34,629 --> 01:46:32,960
that i had worked with since i was like

2699
01:46:37,910 --> 01:46:34,639
a teenager

2700
01:46:40,950 --> 01:46:37,920
in the restaurant bar business and then

2701
01:46:41,350 --> 01:46:40,960
for him to call me well we can do all of

2702
01:46:45,669 --> 01:46:41,360
the

2703
01:46:49,350 --> 01:46:45,679
but we'll speed this up a little bit

2704
01:46:52,390 --> 01:46:49,360
so we believe and so

2705
01:46:54,629 --> 01:46:52,400
to end uh i asked her

2706
01:46:56,070 --> 01:46:54,639
i was i was living with a mom too at the

2707
01:46:58,870 --> 01:46:56,080
time

2708
01:46:59,669 --> 01:46:58,880
and mom living but but he was 23 at the

2709
01:47:03,030 --> 01:46:59,679
time yeah

2710
01:47:06,310 --> 01:47:03,040
excuse me you know yeah

2711
01:47:07,030 --> 01:47:06,320
yeah but mom mom was pretty much living

2712
01:47:10,709 --> 01:47:07,040
with her

2713
01:47:13,830 --> 01:47:10,719
boyfriend so i pretty much had the house

2714
01:47:18,070 --> 01:47:13,840
to myself nice

2715
01:47:21,270 --> 01:47:18,080
it was so we ended up going to the house

2716
01:47:22,149 --> 01:47:21,280
i mean there was no hanky panky no

2717
01:47:25,350 --> 01:47:22,159
nothing we

2718
01:47:26,229 --> 01:47:25,360
set up all night long like college like

2719
01:47:28,790 --> 01:47:26,239
college dorm

2720
01:47:31,590 --> 01:47:28,800
i had high school having a party i had

2721
01:47:37,830 --> 01:47:31,600
like this little room with like

2722
01:47:44,709 --> 01:47:41,590
yeah all night long my mom comes in

2723
01:47:46,310 --> 01:47:44,719
about four or five o'clock from her

2724
01:47:47,750 --> 01:47:46,320
boyfriend's house to get

2725
01:47:49,510 --> 01:47:47,760
ready in the morning because she got to

2726
01:47:50,310 --> 01:47:49,520
change clothes yeah she's gotta get

2727
01:47:51,910 --> 01:47:50,320
ready for work

2728
01:47:53,990 --> 01:47:51,920
because that's where her makeup and her

2729
01:47:57,430 --> 01:47:54,000
clothes are right

2730
01:48:00,149 --> 01:47:57,440
so i she comes in and i'm like mom

2731
01:48:02,229 --> 01:48:00,159
this is alta alta this is my mom janice

2732
01:48:06,070 --> 01:48:02,239
and i'm looking for the exit doors i

2733
01:48:09,510 --> 01:48:07,590
right so i'm trying to figure out how to

2734
01:48:13,109 --> 01:48:09,520
get out 33 you know

2735
01:48:16,070 --> 01:48:13,119
coming home to mom yeah mom yeah anyway

2736
01:48:17,350 --> 01:48:16,080
so we meet briefly i'm like mom mrs alta

2737
01:48:20,629 --> 01:48:17,360
alta is his mom

2738
01:48:21,109 --> 01:48:20,639
you know whatever and you know alton i

2739
01:48:23,109 --> 01:48:21,119
kind of

2740
01:48:26,550 --> 01:48:23,119
sit there and you know still talking and

2741
01:48:28,629 --> 01:48:26,560
stuff mom goes off into the bathroom

2742
01:48:31,189 --> 01:48:28,639
to you know start gets ready and she

2743
01:48:33,109 --> 01:48:31,199
goes chad can you come here for a second

2744
01:48:34,390 --> 01:48:33,119
now i really am trying to find the exit

2745
01:48:38,390 --> 01:48:34,400
door

2746
01:48:42,550 --> 01:48:38,400
i'm like yeah yeah so i come in she goes

2747
01:48:45,109 --> 01:48:42,560
does alta does that name alta

2748
01:48:46,550 --> 01:48:45,119
ring a bell to you does that remind you

2749
01:48:49,990 --> 01:48:46,560
of anything

2750
01:48:52,390 --> 01:48:50,000
i'm like no she goes well you know your

2751
01:48:55,750 --> 01:48:52,400
grandfather my dad

2752
01:48:59,109 --> 01:48:55,760
you know he always went by george but

2753
01:49:01,750 --> 01:48:59,119
do you know that alta is his

2754
01:49:03,030 --> 01:49:01,760
birth first name alta is his

2755
01:49:06,390 --> 01:49:03,040
grandfather's

2756
01:49:07,430 --> 01:49:06,400
first my grandson my grandfather and my

2757
01:49:11,350 --> 01:49:07,440
wife

2758
01:49:15,109 --> 01:49:11,360
spelled the same a-l-t-a

2759
01:49:16,709 --> 01:49:15,119
and she goes that would that was

2760
01:49:18,709 --> 01:49:16,719
you know that was your grandfather's

2761
01:49:21,750 --> 01:49:18,719
name so go one step further

2762
01:49:25,430 --> 01:49:21,760
my mother's maiden name

2763
01:49:26,229 --> 01:49:25,440
and his grandfather's name are identical

2764
01:49:29,109 --> 01:49:26,239
my mom's name

2765
01:49:29,910 --> 01:49:29,119
so my first and last name are identical

2766
01:49:32,229 --> 01:49:29,920
altitude

2767
01:49:35,270 --> 01:49:32,239
grandfather my grandfather's name was

2768
01:49:39,270 --> 01:49:38,709
yeah if if and i'm a duncan my mother

2769
01:49:43,109 --> 01:49:39,280
was a dumb

2770
01:49:45,589 --> 01:49:43,119
yeah her mom's maid name is duncan

2771
01:49:46,629 --> 01:49:45,599
so that's a synchronicity if i've ever

2772
01:49:50,070 --> 01:49:46,639
heard one

2773
01:49:52,390 --> 01:49:50,080
yeah uh wow

2774
01:49:54,830 --> 01:49:52,400
that's that's pretty insane you guys so

2775
01:49:56,310 --> 01:49:54,840
wow so you guys meet in these crazy

2776
01:49:59,030 --> 01:49:56,320
circumstances

2777
01:50:00,550 --> 01:49:59,040
and i mean do you guys talk about

2778
01:50:03,669 --> 01:50:00,560
experiences at all do you guys

2779
01:50:07,350 --> 01:50:03,679
wait a little while or is that like

2780
01:50:10,470 --> 01:50:07,360
no no not even so i go in

2781
01:50:13,990 --> 01:50:10,480
and i tell alta

2782
01:50:17,270 --> 01:50:14,000
this altar yeah this out yes

2783
01:50:21,030 --> 01:50:17,280
not my grandfather you know but i tell

2784
01:50:23,189 --> 01:50:21,040
alta this and she goes oh wow

2785
01:50:24,870 --> 01:50:23,199
so and i think we hung together i'll

2786
01:50:25,430 --> 01:50:24,880
just pick that up real quick so we can

2787
01:50:27,910 --> 01:50:25,440
move along

2788
01:50:29,589 --> 01:50:27,920
ours he told me that and i'm telling you

2789
01:50:31,910 --> 01:50:29,599
because you've heard a lot of my history

2790
01:50:35,030 --> 01:50:31,920
that a lot of people don't know

2791
01:50:38,870 --> 01:50:35,040
it mortified me it terrified me

2792
01:50:40,470 --> 01:50:38,880
and it scared me to death internally

2793
01:50:42,390 --> 01:50:40,480
because right then and there i

2794
01:50:44,790 --> 01:50:42,400
absolutely knew for a fact

2795
01:50:46,310 --> 01:50:44,800
something else is in control of my life

2796
01:50:50,470 --> 01:50:46,320
and i don't like it

2797
01:50:53,270 --> 01:50:50,480
i don't like it and so

2798
01:50:54,790 --> 01:50:53,280
i'm carrying on with chad like oh well

2799
01:50:57,430 --> 01:50:54,800
that's crazy and

2800
01:50:58,310 --> 01:50:57,440
oh that's interesting and whatever and

2801
01:50:59,910 --> 01:50:58,320
whatever

2802
01:51:01,350 --> 01:50:59,920
chad's making plans because he's got to

2803
01:51:03,830 --> 01:51:01,360
go to work that day

2804
01:51:04,629 --> 01:51:03,840
that we're going to see each other very

2805
01:51:05,990 --> 01:51:04,639
soon

2806
01:51:08,470 --> 01:51:06,000
you know we're gonna have a date like

2807
01:51:09,030 --> 01:51:08,480
very soon that told me how interested he

2808
01:51:11,990 --> 01:51:09,040
was

2809
01:51:12,629 --> 01:51:12,000
i know how badly i wanted to but right

2810
01:51:15,589 --> 01:51:12,639
then and there

2811
01:51:16,550 --> 01:51:15,599
internally and he had no idea i'm saying

2812
01:51:19,510 --> 01:51:16,560
never again

2813
01:51:20,470 --> 01:51:19,520
i will never see him again not ever

2814
01:51:22,470 --> 01:51:20,480
again

2815
01:51:24,390 --> 01:51:22,480
and i made sure that and for three

2816
01:51:27,589 --> 01:51:24,400
months chad couldn't find me

2817
01:51:28,070 --> 01:51:27,599
i went poof he could not find me i

2818
01:51:34,790 --> 01:51:28,080
called

2819
01:51:39,589 --> 01:51:34,800
to her house like the next day or so

2820
01:51:42,940 --> 01:51:39,599
and her mom was very stern

2821
01:51:45,830 --> 01:51:42,950
and said whoa she's not here

2822
01:51:49,669 --> 01:51:45,840
[Laughter]

2823
01:51:49,990 --> 01:51:49,679
damn so uh you yeah you got you got uh

2824
01:51:53,350 --> 01:51:50,000
your

2825
01:51:55,270 --> 01:51:53,360
black book and i mean

2826
01:51:56,950 --> 01:51:55,280
i'm just thinking of the time period

2827
01:51:59,350 --> 01:51:56,960
like hey

2828
01:52:02,470 --> 01:51:59,360
if if so-and-so calls a landline i'm not

2829
01:52:04,790 --> 01:52:02,480
here that's as easy as possible right

2830
01:52:07,109 --> 01:52:04,800
it's a lot it's a lot uh a lot easier to

2831
01:52:09,910 --> 01:52:07,119
get a hold of people nowadays you just

2832
01:52:11,669 --> 01:52:09,920
mattel if there was star 69 but so

2833
01:52:13,430 --> 01:52:11,679
anyway so you're not able to get a hold

2834
01:52:16,390 --> 01:52:13,440
of it you're trying to

2835
01:52:17,350 --> 01:52:16,400
trying to contact alta and and nothing

2836
01:52:19,030 --> 01:52:17,360
so what i mean

2837
01:52:21,350 --> 01:52:19,040
what's going through your mind is it is

2838
01:52:25,430 --> 01:52:21,360
it because and i'm speaking to alta

2839
01:52:27,669 --> 01:52:25,440
just a question like is it because you

2840
01:52:30,070 --> 01:52:27,679
you you've got these like feelings like

2841
01:52:32,070 --> 01:52:30,080
hey this is a red flag

2842
01:52:34,149 --> 01:52:32,080
because of my past experiences and i

2843
01:52:36,950 --> 01:52:34,159
don't want anything to do with

2844
01:52:37,589 --> 01:52:36,960
this this idea of like this was a setup

2845
01:52:40,149 --> 01:52:37,599
or

2846
01:52:41,350 --> 01:52:40,159
had you gotten to that point at all

2847
01:52:44,550 --> 01:52:41,360
bingo

2848
01:52:48,709 --> 01:52:44,560
okay you're doing good tonight i think

2849
01:52:52,390 --> 01:52:50,709
y'all are so descriptive uh y'all are

2850
01:52:55,830 --> 01:52:52,400
such great storytellers like it's

2851
01:52:57,350 --> 01:52:55,840
i love it well thanks i mean as long as

2852
01:52:59,510 --> 01:52:57,360
we're not boring because that is the

2853
01:53:02,229 --> 01:52:59,520
most important part no not at all oh

2854
01:53:02,709 --> 01:53:02,239
no this is a i i'm having a like a blast

2855
01:53:05,750 --> 01:53:02,719
right now

2856
01:53:07,750 --> 01:53:05,760
yeah that's no boredom in this story

2857
01:53:10,310 --> 01:53:07,760
yeah y'all are very i could i could see

2858
01:53:13,350 --> 01:53:10,320
it every every little detail it's great

2859
01:53:15,430 --> 01:53:13,360
so as i said bingo to you sir yes

2860
01:53:17,510 --> 01:53:15,440
i mean it was absolutely i mean it was

2861
01:53:21,109 --> 01:53:17,520
just absolutely overwhelming it was too

2862
01:53:23,270 --> 01:53:21,119
overwhelming and so i got gone and i got

2863
01:53:24,470 --> 01:53:23,280
disappeared i was that gone girl for

2864
01:53:27,189 --> 01:53:24,480
three months

2865
01:53:29,030 --> 01:53:27,199
and uh then all of a sudden i'll pick it

2866
01:53:31,270 --> 01:53:29,040
back up real quick again and then chad

2867
01:53:34,790 --> 01:53:31,280
again we'll come back in

2868
01:53:38,149 --> 01:53:34,800
my point of this is three months later

2869
01:53:39,109 --> 01:53:38,159
it was like something i'm not hearing

2870
01:53:42,149 --> 01:53:39,119
voices

2871
01:53:45,589 --> 01:53:42,159
thank god or gods i

2872
01:53:48,790 --> 01:53:45,599
i'm getting a signal that i have to find

2873
01:53:49,910 --> 01:53:48,800
chad i have to find him i have to find

2874
01:53:52,629 --> 01:53:49,920
him

2875
01:53:54,070 --> 01:53:52,639
now that's creepy and that's bizarre and

2876
01:53:55,750 --> 01:53:54,080
i didn't understand that at all

2877
01:53:57,430 --> 01:53:55,760
either because that's not my behavior

2878
01:53:59,589 --> 01:53:57,440
once i'm gone i'm gone

2879
01:54:01,990 --> 01:53:59,599
that's why i stayed single all my life

2880
01:54:03,910 --> 01:54:02,000
and so

2881
01:54:05,589 --> 01:54:03,920
i get with my girlfriend that chick that

2882
01:54:08,070 --> 01:54:05,599
i told you all about that i called that

2883
01:54:11,430 --> 01:54:08,080
came and met my

2884
01:54:14,950 --> 01:54:11,440
or whoever they were yeah yeah right

2885
01:54:16,709 --> 01:54:14,960
i call her or i'm with her and

2886
01:54:20,149 --> 01:54:16,719
it was it was will smith and tommy lee

2887
01:54:23,589 --> 01:54:20,159
jones exactly

2888
01:54:25,350 --> 01:54:23,599
yeah i do like it uh i'm just very

2889
01:54:27,189 --> 01:54:25,360
specific to her that i've got to find

2890
01:54:28,310 --> 01:54:27,199
chad well she's on board she we're going

2891
01:54:30,709 --> 01:54:28,320
to find a chat

2892
01:54:32,629 --> 01:54:30,719
she used to hang out at the oyster bar

2893
01:54:36,149 --> 01:54:32,639
so we were kind of

2894
01:54:37,910 --> 01:54:36,159
mutual friends with her she knew chad

2895
01:54:39,669 --> 01:54:37,920
separately from me which is some more

2896
01:54:41,430 --> 01:54:39,679
that others might call it coincidence i

2897
01:54:42,709 --> 01:54:41,440
know better i don't believe those things

2898
01:54:44,470 --> 01:54:42,719
really exist

2899
01:54:45,750 --> 01:54:44,480
synchronicities okay whatever the

2900
01:54:48,550 --> 01:54:45,760
language is

2901
01:54:49,510 --> 01:54:48,560
everything happens for a reason always

2902
01:54:52,550 --> 01:54:49,520
they say

2903
01:54:54,470 --> 01:54:52,560
she knew chad prior separately from me

2904
01:54:56,149 --> 01:54:54,480
and then knew me and so we're this

2905
01:54:58,070 --> 01:54:56,159
little strange triangle

2906
01:54:59,990 --> 01:54:58,080
that's reconnecting again kind of like

2907
01:55:03,030 --> 01:55:00,000
his grampy and i've got the same

2908
01:55:06,550 --> 01:55:03,040
first and last name yeah and so right

2909
01:55:08,870 --> 01:55:06,560
so she's on board we're gonna find chad

2910
01:55:10,550 --> 01:55:08,880
well we found chad all right chad now

2911
01:55:13,669 --> 01:55:10,560
we're in little rock arkansas

2912
01:55:16,790 --> 01:55:13,679
we find chad is in louisiana

2913
01:55:19,189 --> 01:55:16,800
he has left the state and his dad has

2914
01:55:19,910 --> 01:55:19,199
moved with one of those wives the last

2915
01:55:21,589 --> 01:55:19,920
wife

2916
01:55:23,750 --> 01:55:21,599
this one that he's got now i had to stop

2917
01:55:26,470 --> 01:55:23,760
and think wife three

2918
01:55:27,189 --> 01:55:26,480
they moved to louisiana they're in uh

2919
01:55:30,950 --> 01:55:27,199
they're in that

2920
01:55:34,149 --> 01:55:30,960
sort of hammondy area actually

2921
01:55:35,109 --> 01:55:34,159
close to it just geographically so chad

2922
01:55:37,910 --> 01:55:35,119
has gone

2923
01:55:39,189 --> 01:55:37,920
there to go hang with them and work

2924
01:55:40,709 --> 01:55:39,199
there for a while and

2925
01:55:43,189 --> 01:55:40,719
who knows what all was going on with

2926
01:55:45,109 --> 01:55:43,199
chad he was just needing to do whatever

2927
01:55:47,030 --> 01:55:45,119
chad needed to do i let him speak for

2928
01:55:47,830 --> 01:55:47,040
himself as to why he went if he needs to

2929
01:55:50,870 --> 01:55:47,840
or whatever

2930
01:55:51,910 --> 01:55:50,880
but the reality is is she and i found

2931
01:55:54,629 --> 01:55:51,920
him

2932
01:55:56,229 --> 01:55:54,639
my friend with me i made a phone call i

2933
01:55:58,470 --> 01:55:56,239
was given a phone number

2934
01:56:00,149 --> 01:55:58,480
i called that number and i'll be dang

2935
01:56:03,270 --> 01:56:00,159
chad answered the phone

2936
01:56:05,189 --> 01:56:03,280
it was like wow oh this yeah

2937
01:56:08,470 --> 01:56:05,199
he's at his dad's house and he answered

2938
01:56:13,830 --> 01:56:11,109
before or since but he happened to be

2939
01:56:15,510 --> 01:56:13,840
right there and he answered that phone

2940
01:56:17,270 --> 01:56:15,520
and now we're having this conversation

2941
01:56:19,750 --> 01:56:17,280
i'll speed that story up

2942
01:56:20,790 --> 01:56:19,760
i swear to him on anything i know how to

2943
01:56:23,189 --> 01:56:20,800
swear on

2944
01:56:23,830 --> 01:56:23,199
that i will he's coming back within 24

2945
01:56:25,750 --> 01:56:23,840
hours

2946
01:56:27,589 --> 01:56:25,760
he's just been in a bad car accident

2947
01:56:30,229 --> 01:56:27,599
with his aunt and uncle

2948
01:56:32,229 --> 01:56:30,239
it's bad but it's not crucial right it's

2949
01:56:33,669 --> 01:56:32,239
been beaten up and banged up pretty good

2950
01:56:35,430 --> 01:56:33,679
and so on and so forth

2951
01:56:37,510 --> 01:56:35,440
he's had enough of louisiana he's coming

2952
01:56:39,270 --> 01:56:37,520
back to little rock

2953
01:56:40,550 --> 01:56:39,280
right so we gotta get back to the oyster

2954
01:56:44,390 --> 01:56:40,560
bar i got work to do

2955
01:56:47,109 --> 01:56:44,400
okay yeah so i tell him

2956
01:56:48,709 --> 01:56:47,119
i'll be here you're coming back tomorrow

2957
01:56:49,669 --> 01:56:48,719
i swear on everything i know how to

2958
01:56:51,830 --> 01:56:49,679
swear whatever

2959
01:56:53,750 --> 01:56:51,840
i'll be here i promise you i promise you

2960
01:56:55,430 --> 01:56:53,760
i promise you i'll be here

2961
01:56:56,709 --> 01:56:55,440
now as soon as we hang up the phone

2962
01:56:57,830 --> 01:56:56,719
because i finally got him convinced

2963
01:57:01,750 --> 01:56:57,840
because i'm convinced

2964
01:57:03,270 --> 01:57:01,760
we're about to be reunited next thing i

2965
01:57:07,669 --> 01:57:03,280
know

2966
01:57:10,149 --> 01:57:07,679
there is a invitation i got a guy friend

2967
01:57:11,669 --> 01:57:10,159
nothing sexual a guy friend and he asked

2968
01:57:14,390 --> 01:57:11,679
me if i wanted to go

2969
01:57:15,589 --> 01:57:14,400
motorcycling well i love bikes back in

2970
01:57:19,270 --> 01:57:15,599
the day so yeah

2971
01:57:21,109 --> 01:57:19,280
buddy i'm ready to do that and uh

2972
01:57:22,310 --> 01:57:21,119
so he's gonna come by my friend's house

2973
01:57:24,149 --> 01:57:22,320
pick me up

2974
01:57:25,830 --> 01:57:24,159
we're gonna go biking we're just gonna

2975
01:57:28,870 --> 01:57:25,840
go spend the day biking

2976
01:57:30,229 --> 01:57:28,880
so we get on that bike he forced me to

2977
01:57:32,149 --> 01:57:30,239
put a helmet on

2978
01:57:33,750 --> 01:57:32,159
i don't like helmets don't like nothing

2979
01:57:35,990 --> 01:57:33,760
about him but he

2980
01:57:37,990 --> 01:57:36,000
says you will wear a helmet it's the law

2981
01:57:40,629 --> 01:57:38,000
or whatever it was i don't know i didn't

2982
01:57:42,550 --> 01:57:40,639
pay attention to all that what's that

2983
01:57:45,750 --> 01:57:42,560
it's arkansas there's that helmet

2984
01:57:47,669 --> 01:57:45,760
i guess so not only do i have to put a

2985
01:57:48,310 --> 01:57:47,679
helmet on but this helmet's got a face

2986
01:57:52,870 --> 01:57:48,320
shield

2987
01:57:56,310 --> 01:57:52,880
so it's like i am buckled into this whoa

2988
01:57:59,350 --> 01:57:56,320
there's nothing easy writer about that

2989
01:58:00,390 --> 01:57:59,360
don't sneeze takes completely away from

2990
01:58:03,189 --> 01:58:00,400
the story right

2991
01:58:04,229 --> 01:58:03,199
so but again very effective in this

2992
01:58:07,589 --> 01:58:04,239
story a little bit

2993
01:58:09,109 --> 01:58:07,599
down the line here so we take off and we

2994
01:58:11,910 --> 01:58:09,119
head for the

2995
01:58:12,870 --> 01:58:11,920
for the park river the river park the

2996
01:58:15,910 --> 01:58:12,880
little rock

2997
01:58:17,750 --> 01:58:15,920
arkansas through

2998
01:58:20,070 --> 01:58:17,760
it the arkansas river that divides

2999
01:58:22,229 --> 01:58:20,080
little rock and north little rock

3000
01:58:24,470 --> 01:58:22,239
that's how that's all set up it's got a

3001
01:58:25,270 --> 01:58:24,480
beautiful parkway all along it and so on

3002
01:58:26,790 --> 01:58:25,280
and so forth

3003
01:58:28,229 --> 01:58:26,800
that's where we're going to go hang it's

3004
01:58:29,830 --> 01:58:28,239
a beautiful day wouldn't you know it's

3005
01:58:32,550 --> 01:58:29,840
just a perfect day

3006
01:58:34,149 --> 01:58:32,560
so we get down to this river now there's

3007
01:58:35,830 --> 01:58:34,159
a whole lot more to this story than i

3008
01:58:38,950 --> 01:58:35,840
think you all have time for

3009
01:58:41,350 --> 01:58:38,960
but i'll speed the story up we

3010
01:58:43,669 --> 01:58:41,360
oh chad wants to say he wants me to tell

3011
01:58:46,870 --> 01:58:43,679
you this part of the story oh go for it

3012
01:58:49,589 --> 01:58:46,880
yeah go for it okay so well let's back

3013
01:58:51,430 --> 01:58:49,599
up a few months let's go back to easter

3014
01:58:52,629 --> 01:58:51,440
i don't remember what the month easter

3015
01:58:55,990 --> 01:58:52,639
is it's like recent

3016
01:58:58,390 --> 01:58:56,000
whatever easter sunday this guy friend

3017
01:59:00,149 --> 01:58:58,400
invited me to join him and his adult

3018
01:59:02,629 --> 01:59:00,159
sister and their children

3019
01:59:04,310 --> 01:59:02,639
for an easter egg hunt at that park

3020
01:59:06,790 --> 01:59:04,320
river park

3021
01:59:09,109 --> 01:59:06,800
this is months prior to this experience

3022
01:59:11,910 --> 01:59:09,119
i'm talking about with chad and i

3023
01:59:13,750 --> 01:59:11,920
i agree to that i go and spend now this

3024
01:59:14,310 --> 01:59:13,760
is chad's not in the story in any way in

3025
01:59:18,390 --> 01:59:14,320
this

3026
01:59:20,070 --> 01:59:18,400
part of the story we get we have a great

3027
01:59:21,910 --> 01:59:20,080
little easter sunday out there with the

3028
01:59:23,189 --> 01:59:21,920
kids and easter egg hunting and so on

3029
01:59:25,910 --> 01:59:23,199
and so forth

3030
01:59:28,149 --> 01:59:25,920
and that little family gets themself all

3031
01:59:31,510 --> 01:59:28,159
packed up and they got to go home

3032
01:59:33,510 --> 01:59:31,520
my friend and i his name was les uh

3033
01:59:35,589 --> 01:59:33,520
i'm getting ready to you know pack up

3034
01:59:36,629 --> 01:59:35,599
and join him and he's going to take me

3035
01:59:38,950 --> 01:59:36,639
home

3036
01:59:40,470 --> 01:59:38,960
well as we get into the parking lot he's

3037
01:59:43,510 --> 01:59:40,480
got a big parking lot

3038
01:59:45,669 --> 01:59:43,520
there's a i guess he's a man

3039
01:59:47,589 --> 01:59:45,679
i'm not sure about anything anymore

3040
01:59:50,550 --> 01:59:47,599
there's what appears to be a man

3041
01:59:51,189 --> 01:59:50,560
across that parking lot who is a little

3042
01:59:53,510 --> 01:59:51,199
guy

3043
01:59:54,790 --> 01:59:53,520
he's like uncle shorty little he's a

3044
01:59:59,669 --> 01:59:54,800
little guy

3045
02:00:02,629 --> 01:59:59,679
if you can get that picture in your mind

3046
02:00:04,229 --> 02:00:02,639
oh so like a tiny charles manson oh

3047
02:00:06,550 --> 02:00:04,239
thank you

3048
02:00:08,950 --> 02:00:06,560
wow and he's got he's got a cowboy hat

3049
02:00:09,910 --> 02:00:08,960
on now i'm dying inside because i'm from

3050
02:00:12,629 --> 02:00:09,920
the west

3051
02:00:13,990 --> 02:00:12,639
and i'm just thinking oh this is crazy i

3052
02:00:19,510 --> 02:00:14,000
got a little miniature

3053
02:00:19,520 --> 02:00:23,510
kind of man

3054
02:00:26,550 --> 02:00:25,430
i'm laughing so hard because i love like

3055
02:00:28,790 --> 02:00:26,560
wordplay like that

3056
02:00:30,070 --> 02:00:28,800
like spiderman spiderman spiderman's

3057
02:00:33,109 --> 02:00:30,080
like batman

3058
02:00:36,310 --> 02:00:33,119
superman i [\h__\h] love that

3059
02:00:38,870 --> 02:00:36,320
i call chad's spinach uh uh

3060
02:00:41,189 --> 02:00:38,880
spinach what is that he makes a spinach

3061
02:00:44,070 --> 02:00:41,199
artichoke dip that's to die for

3062
02:00:44,950 --> 02:00:44,080
i call it spinach one night i was too

3063
02:00:47,750 --> 02:00:44,960
happy

3064
02:00:49,589 --> 02:00:47,760
in too much whatever i was drinking and

3065
02:00:53,830 --> 02:00:49,599
that word came out spinach

3066
02:00:56,310 --> 02:00:53,840
yeah there you go i changed it spinach

3067
02:00:57,750 --> 02:00:56,320
changed language constantly just to stay

3068
02:01:00,149 --> 02:00:57,760
in the sand

3069
02:01:01,589 --> 02:01:00,159
so i got this way across the parking lot

3070
02:01:04,629 --> 02:01:01,599
it's looking like he's a middle-aged

3071
02:01:06,870 --> 02:01:04,639
boy he ain't no young and

3072
02:01:08,070 --> 02:01:06,880
he is mentally listen to what i'm

3073
02:01:12,149 --> 02:01:08,080
telling you he is

3074
02:01:14,470 --> 02:01:12,159
mentally talking to me whoa

3075
02:01:15,750 --> 02:01:14,480
when i say he's mentally talking to me

3076
02:01:17,910 --> 02:01:15,760
he got my attention

3077
02:01:19,990 --> 02:01:17,920
this is all in silence there's nothing

3078
02:01:21,750 --> 02:01:20,000
verbal going on

3079
02:01:23,109 --> 02:01:21,760
when i looked over across that parking

3080
02:01:26,070 --> 02:01:23,119
lot i see this little

3081
02:01:28,629 --> 02:01:26,080
boy standing there with that hat on and

3082
02:01:30,390 --> 02:01:28,639
i'm kind of giggling inside myself

3083
02:01:31,910 --> 02:01:30,400
but then i stopped laughing because he

3084
02:01:35,990 --> 02:01:31,920
pointed right at me

3085
02:01:39,669 --> 02:01:36,000
at me he said mentally

3086
02:01:41,830 --> 02:01:39,679
i want you oh

3087
02:01:42,790 --> 02:01:41,840
i turned around less doing exactly what

3088
02:01:46,470 --> 02:01:42,800
you just did

3089
02:01:49,030 --> 02:01:46,480
i'm like no what did you see that

3090
02:01:50,709 --> 02:01:49,040
les did you see that you see that over

3091
02:01:53,750 --> 02:01:50,719
there and les is looking

3092
02:01:55,990 --> 02:01:53,760
now les is a kind of a little guy also

3093
02:01:56,790 --> 02:01:56,000
they're kind of on the same range size

3094
02:01:58,629 --> 02:01:56,800
wise

3095
02:01:59,910 --> 02:01:58,639
i seem to have little guys in my life

3096
02:02:01,350 --> 02:01:59,920
early in my life yeah

3097
02:02:04,149 --> 02:02:01,360
well everybody's a little guy compared

3098
02:02:07,189 --> 02:02:04,159
to chad if he's 6-2 yeah

3099
02:02:09,350 --> 02:02:07,199
right but he's a long skinny lanky when

3100
02:02:11,510 --> 02:02:09,360
you see chad he is a beanbolt

3101
02:02:12,870 --> 02:02:11,520
so he even looks taller that's why he

3102
02:02:14,229 --> 02:02:12,880
fell in love with him you were like

3103
02:02:18,070 --> 02:02:14,239
finally

3104
02:02:19,830 --> 02:02:18,080
listen he's a chef he cooks yeah

3105
02:02:22,310 --> 02:02:19,840
because i ain't no bean pole i'll tell

3106
02:02:26,709 --> 02:02:22,320
you he has puffed me up well

3107
02:02:28,390 --> 02:02:26,719
so but dude said he pointed at me

3108
02:02:30,310 --> 02:02:28,400
now he didn't make a big gesture out of

3109
02:02:30,870 --> 02:02:30,320
it he didn't stick his arm out in a long

3110
02:02:33,350 --> 02:02:30,880
point

3111
02:02:35,030 --> 02:02:33,360
he kept his arm up against his chest and

3112
02:02:37,990 --> 02:02:35,040
i'm doing it right now like you

3113
02:02:39,030 --> 02:02:38,000
play acting a gun and he took that index

3114
02:02:41,669 --> 02:02:39,040
finger in that thumb

3115
02:02:42,550 --> 02:02:41,679
and he pointed right at me and mentally

3116
02:02:45,510 --> 02:02:42,560
he said

3117
02:02:46,229 --> 02:02:45,520
i want you and i saw his lips move i saw

3118
02:02:49,589 --> 02:02:46,239
him

3119
02:02:52,390 --> 02:02:49,599
i saw it so i'm freaking

3120
02:02:54,390 --> 02:02:52,400
he's trying he's trying to say what's up

3121
02:02:57,990 --> 02:02:54,400
i gotta know what this is about

3122
02:02:59,030 --> 02:02:58,000
curiosity did kill the cat i went for it

3123
02:03:00,790 --> 02:02:59,040
i bit

3124
02:03:02,870 --> 02:03:00,800
i get less and i'm dragging his little

3125
02:03:05,030 --> 02:03:02,880
ass across the parking lot with me

3126
02:03:07,669 --> 02:03:05,040
we're gonna go check this guy out like

3127
02:03:09,189 --> 02:03:07,679
nobody's talked to me mentally before

3128
02:03:10,870 --> 02:03:09,199
i've been waiting for it all my life

3129
02:03:14,550 --> 02:03:10,880
what the hell just happened

3130
02:03:17,030 --> 02:03:14,560
and he looks like manson and so

3131
02:03:18,470 --> 02:03:17,040
we get over there he's got himself a big

3132
02:03:20,149 --> 02:03:18,480
old van

3133
02:03:22,310 --> 02:03:20,159
seems i think it was like a chocolate

3134
02:03:23,669 --> 02:03:22,320
brown van

3135
02:03:27,270 --> 02:03:23,679
and it's you know it looks like one of

3136
02:03:28,790 --> 02:03:27,280
those 70s operations now this is 1990

3137
02:03:30,470 --> 02:03:28,800
but you know he looks like he's got

3138
02:03:35,109 --> 02:03:30,480
himself a love beast

3139
02:03:38,390 --> 02:03:35,119
like it's yeah i want you

3140
02:03:45,030 --> 02:03:38,400
want some candy little girl yeah right

3141
02:03:49,830 --> 02:03:47,510
open and i mean that thing is shag

3142
02:03:51,830 --> 02:03:49,840
carpeted and i mean

3143
02:03:53,589 --> 02:03:51,840
maybe some black lights i don't remember

3144
02:03:58,149 --> 02:03:53,599
because i'm awesome

3145
02:04:01,189 --> 02:03:58,159
i'm just freaking happy this little

3146
02:04:02,950 --> 02:04:01,199
boy is just a very happy guy because i'm

3147
02:04:04,950 --> 02:04:02,960
over there

3148
02:04:06,950 --> 02:04:04,960
now i don't impress people like that i

3149
02:04:07,830 --> 02:04:06,960
we told you how walton feels about it so

3150
02:04:11,350 --> 02:04:07,840
you know

3151
02:04:15,109 --> 02:04:11,360
down for me but

3152
02:04:18,550 --> 02:04:15,119
in this case he made it clear and i bit

3153
02:04:21,910 --> 02:04:18,560
so while we're around him he's just

3154
02:04:25,750 --> 02:04:21,920
generous his language is generous

3155
02:04:29,109 --> 02:04:25,760
he offered his drinks beers we took it

3156
02:04:30,870 --> 02:04:29,119
and then my friend didn't like it he

3157
02:04:32,229 --> 02:04:30,880
didn't like the energy he didn't like

3158
02:04:34,550 --> 02:04:32,239
anything about it

3159
02:04:36,390 --> 02:04:34,560
and he wanted gone and he made it very

3160
02:04:38,790 --> 02:04:36,400
clear to me we gotta go

3161
02:04:39,589 --> 02:04:38,800
well i don't let nobody tell me anything

3162
02:04:41,270 --> 02:04:39,599
no boy

3163
02:04:43,109 --> 02:04:41,280
i mean i'm not married you ain't my

3164
02:04:45,109 --> 02:04:43,119
boyfriend you ain't my daddy

3165
02:04:47,030 --> 02:04:45,119
yeah so i'm i'm having that kind of

3166
02:04:47,589 --> 02:04:47,040
argumentative inside of myself but

3167
02:04:51,510 --> 02:04:47,599
something

3168
02:04:54,790 --> 02:04:51,520
told me listen alta and so

3169
02:04:59,189 --> 02:04:54,800
i agreed we left okay

3170
02:05:01,669 --> 02:04:59,199
so on this day i'm to meet chad

3171
02:05:02,950 --> 02:05:01,679
we'll speed it back up now this is now

3172
02:05:05,750 --> 02:05:02,960
valentine's we go from

3173
02:05:07,030 --> 02:05:05,760
easter to valentine's however much time

3174
02:05:10,709 --> 02:05:07,040
is between that

3175
02:05:13,270 --> 02:05:10,719
okay so this is

3176
02:05:14,149 --> 02:05:13,280
now the uh waiting for chat or this is

3177
02:05:16,149 --> 02:05:14,159
after balance

3178
02:05:18,229 --> 02:05:16,159
sorry after this is now three months

3179
02:05:21,270 --> 02:05:18,239
later so we're now into

3180
02:05:23,109 --> 02:05:21,280
mayish i would say my birthday's in may

3181
02:05:25,030 --> 02:05:23,119
which has always been a really strange

3182
02:05:27,350 --> 02:05:25,040
important time in our lives

3183
02:05:28,229 --> 02:05:27,360
so thank you chad i'm having a hard time

3184
02:05:29,830 --> 02:05:28,239
with time

3185
02:05:31,830 --> 02:05:29,840
and next thing i know so we're now in

3186
02:05:34,470 --> 02:05:31,840
around the time of mayish

3187
02:05:36,229 --> 02:05:34,480
weather's perfect beautiful we're gonna

3188
02:05:38,069 --> 02:05:36,239
go just take a ride on this bike with me

3189
02:05:40,310 --> 02:05:38,079
and this bubble on my head and

3190
02:05:41,350 --> 02:05:40,320
you know just wait for chad to come back

3191
02:05:43,510 --> 02:05:41,360
the next day

3192
02:05:45,510 --> 02:05:43,520
so i'm on such a high i'm on such a

3193
02:05:45,990 --> 02:05:45,520
natural high i can't even hardly stand

3194
02:05:51,189 --> 02:05:46,000
it

3195
02:05:53,830 --> 02:05:51,199
we go down to the river that's where he

3196
02:05:56,950 --> 02:05:53,840
takes us back down to that river

3197
02:05:57,830 --> 02:05:56,960
well who do you think is there it is he

3198
02:06:00,629 --> 02:05:57,840
in a van

3199
02:06:02,950 --> 02:06:00,639
the the kaboy the boy now has got a

3200
02:06:06,149 --> 02:06:02,960
pick-em-up truck what

3201
02:06:09,189 --> 02:06:06,159
mm-hmm that pick-em-up truck that's

3202
02:06:12,470 --> 02:06:09,199
got this you know open bed he's got

3203
02:06:15,990 --> 02:06:12,480
big huge plastic

3204
02:06:17,109 --> 02:06:16,000
jugs i mean huge jugs in the back of

3205
02:06:19,430 --> 02:06:17,119
that thing

3206
02:06:20,709 --> 02:06:19,440
that has got something in it that people

3207
02:06:23,830 --> 02:06:20,719
are drinking

3208
02:06:24,069 --> 02:06:23,840
that something in it has a red color to

3209
02:06:30,069 --> 02:06:24,079
it

3210
02:06:30,550 --> 02:06:30,079
toned we'll get back to that in a minute

3211
02:06:34,069 --> 02:06:30,560
whoa

3212
02:06:36,709 --> 02:06:34,079
music is blasting he's having a party

3213
02:06:37,669 --> 02:06:36,719
now he's got every river rat that lives

3214
02:06:41,030 --> 02:06:37,679
in that area

3215
02:06:43,589 --> 02:06:41,040
at his command wow everyone

3216
02:06:45,189 --> 02:06:43,599
but not only he's got the river rats if

3217
02:06:46,229 --> 02:06:45,199
you can see what i'm trying to paint you

3218
02:06:50,310 --> 02:06:46,239
these pictures

3219
02:06:52,470 --> 02:06:50,320
yeah he's got people of all walk of life

3220
02:06:53,830 --> 02:06:52,480
that are coming to this party wow to the

3221
02:06:56,069 --> 02:06:53,840
point where

3222
02:06:57,750 --> 02:06:56,079
now start seeing have you ever seen the

3223
02:07:01,669 --> 02:06:57,760
movie rosemary's baby

3224
02:07:04,069 --> 02:07:01,679
yeah okay you know the collective

3225
02:07:04,709 --> 02:07:04,079
the very unique collectiveness of those

3226
02:07:07,990 --> 02:07:04,719
people

3227
02:07:12,310 --> 02:07:08,000
uh huh that's what's at that party

3228
02:07:15,430 --> 02:07:12,320
whoa there was a role into the party

3229
02:07:18,550 --> 02:07:15,440
a rolls-royce pulls up

3230
02:07:21,910 --> 02:07:18,560
and this couple got out now they are

3231
02:07:24,629 --> 02:07:21,920
joining in with that party grew

3232
02:07:25,750 --> 02:07:24,639
by the masses of every kind of walk of

3233
02:07:27,830 --> 02:07:25,760
life

3234
02:07:30,390 --> 02:07:27,840
i don't remember anybody of color i

3235
02:07:33,990 --> 02:07:30,400
don't remember anybody there of color

3236
02:07:35,910 --> 02:07:34,000
and i have very light skin as i said i

3237
02:07:37,430 --> 02:07:35,920
kind of got shifted off back in the day

3238
02:07:40,069 --> 02:07:37,440
people couldn't tell if i was middle

3239
02:07:43,910 --> 02:07:40,079
eastern or if i was italian or

3240
02:07:46,790 --> 02:07:43,920
mexican not mexican are you

3241
02:07:47,189 --> 02:07:46,800
so i just say you know whatever you call

3242
02:07:52,709 --> 02:07:47,199
me

3243
02:07:55,510 --> 02:07:52,719
color

3244
02:07:56,229 --> 02:07:55,520
in this mass just like rosemary's baby

3245
02:07:58,790 --> 02:07:56,239
get that

3246
02:07:59,589 --> 02:07:58,800
in your mind yeah when that rolls pulled

3247
02:08:02,950 --> 02:07:59,599
up

3248
02:08:04,709 --> 02:08:02,960
it was like this is this is a movie

3249
02:08:06,790 --> 02:08:04,719
i'm in a movie there's some kind of

3250
02:08:09,270 --> 02:08:06,800
movie going and they're all for him

3251
02:08:10,709 --> 02:08:09,280
but yeah no one no one just pulls up in

3252
02:08:13,750 --> 02:08:10,719
a rolls-royce

3253
02:08:17,430 --> 02:08:13,760
to a river but they were they were

3254
02:08:21,510 --> 02:08:20,470
but for alta white chad they come to see

3255
02:08:25,030 --> 02:08:21,520
you too

3256
02:08:28,229 --> 02:08:25,040
apparently they did yeah because

3257
02:08:30,950 --> 02:08:28,239
listen to this so this dude

3258
02:08:32,310 --> 02:08:30,960
this party seemed to be being held for

3259
02:08:36,709 --> 02:08:32,320
me

3260
02:08:39,510 --> 02:08:36,719
what the people started moving in around

3261
02:08:41,109 --> 02:08:39,520
me i'm being served what everybody else

3262
02:08:44,470 --> 02:08:41,119
seems to be drinking out of those

3263
02:08:46,870 --> 02:08:44,480
jugs whatever that liquid was was

3264
02:08:48,149 --> 02:08:46,880
nectar i don't know how else to describe

3265
02:08:54,709 --> 02:08:48,159
it

3266
02:08:55,589 --> 02:08:54,719
i tasted no alcohol i have no idea what

3267
02:08:58,229 --> 02:08:55,599
i was drinking

3268
02:08:59,109 --> 02:08:58,239
i have no idea but i can tell you this

3269
02:09:01,750 --> 02:08:59,119
every time those

3270
02:09:02,870 --> 02:09:01,760
jugs emptied i blink and they were

3271
02:09:05,270 --> 02:09:02,880
filled again

3272
02:09:07,189 --> 02:09:05,280
now i'm not making any of this up nor am

3273
02:09:08,470 --> 02:09:07,199
i creating any of this this is what i

3274
02:09:11,669 --> 02:09:08,480
was experiencing

3275
02:09:14,950 --> 02:09:11,679
this sounds this sounds like i mean

3276
02:09:15,990 --> 02:09:14,960
i love the story i'm thinking in my mind

3277
02:09:18,550 --> 02:09:16,000
i'm painting

3278
02:09:19,669 --> 02:09:18,560
uh you know pan right like from the

3279
02:09:23,510 --> 02:09:19,679
mythology

3280
02:09:26,229 --> 02:09:23,520
pan yeah he's like half goat half man

3281
02:09:27,189 --> 02:09:26,239
and he's kind of like known for orgies

3282
02:09:32,550 --> 02:09:27,199
and like

3283
02:09:33,990 --> 02:09:32,560
[\h__\h] this is what i'm i'm picturing

3284
02:09:37,510 --> 02:09:34,000
danny devito

3285
02:09:40,310 --> 02:09:37,520
i'm picturing games in a cowboy hat

3286
02:09:41,510 --> 02:09:40,320
serving shirley temples to everybody if

3287
02:09:44,149 --> 02:09:41,520
if daddy devito

3288
02:09:45,589 --> 02:09:44,159
was body like man if he if he was skinny

3289
02:09:48,390 --> 02:09:45,599
because he wasn't a real

3290
02:09:49,270 --> 02:09:48,400
big this dude was little like he was

3291
02:09:52,790 --> 02:09:49,280
like

3292
02:09:56,310 --> 02:09:52,800
bodybuilder

3293
02:10:03,189 --> 02:09:56,320
short wow not attractive

3294
02:10:06,310 --> 02:10:04,950
did you tell him about when they when he

3295
02:10:09,910 --> 02:10:06,320
picked his

3296
02:10:13,189 --> 02:10:09,920
cowboy hat in the very beginning

3297
02:10:14,629 --> 02:10:13,199
sorry folks sorry well back up oh [\h__\h]

3298
02:10:16,950 --> 02:10:14,639
i love that both of you all y'all are

3299
02:10:18,870 --> 02:10:16,960
like in sync yes

3300
02:10:20,390 --> 02:10:18,880
well he's remembering what i've been

3301
02:10:21,910 --> 02:10:20,400
yeah like closing out because we don't

3302
02:10:24,229 --> 02:10:21,920
normally talk about any of this

3303
02:10:25,030 --> 02:10:24,239
yeah we usually leave this part out yeah

3304
02:10:26,390 --> 02:10:25,040
but you know but

3305
02:10:28,550 --> 02:10:26,400
try to make it she's trying to get the

3306
02:10:29,669 --> 02:10:28,560
whole story in there we're in for the

3307
02:10:32,550 --> 02:10:29,679
ride

3308
02:10:32,790 --> 02:10:32,560
let's go back to easter sunday key word

3309
02:10:37,510 --> 02:10:32,800
is

3310
02:10:40,550 --> 02:10:37,520
easter when he first got my attention

3311
02:10:41,990 --> 02:10:40,560
and pointed and said i want you when we

3312
02:10:43,830 --> 02:10:42,000
walked over to him

3313
02:10:47,030 --> 02:10:43,840
i totally blanked that out but it's

3314
02:10:49,750 --> 02:10:47,040
right there he lifted off that kaboy hat

3315
02:10:50,950 --> 02:10:49,760
he said you ever seen anybody with horns

3316
02:10:52,390 --> 02:10:50,960
no

3317
02:10:54,149 --> 02:10:52,400
did you hear what i just said to you

3318
02:10:56,069 --> 02:10:54,159
when you said i am hold on hold on

3319
02:10:57,510 --> 02:10:56,079
how the [\h__\h] did i know that you were to

3320
02:11:00,950 --> 02:10:57,520
oh are you

3321
02:11:04,310 --> 02:11:00,960
are you are you like sending me uh like

3322
02:11:06,790 --> 02:11:04,320
like tele telepathic signals that i'm

3323
02:11:08,390 --> 02:11:06,800
somehow picking up espn nude right now

3324
02:11:12,550 --> 02:11:08,400
he is paying me right now

3325
02:11:15,990 --> 02:11:14,870
i have a great imagination but never i'm

3326
02:11:19,669 --> 02:11:16,000
never spot on

3327
02:11:22,550 --> 02:11:19,679
ever for real

3328
02:11:24,870 --> 02:11:22,560
it's not even that was that total he

3329
02:11:27,910 --> 02:11:24,880
asked me have you ever seen anybody with

3330
02:11:32,069 --> 02:11:27,920
horns now he lifted up that

3331
02:11:34,149 --> 02:11:32,079
freaking cowboy hat and i swear again

3332
02:11:36,390 --> 02:11:34,159
cowboy hat yeah it's just a little tiny

3333
02:11:39,430 --> 02:11:36,400
thing like he was but it was hysterical

3334
02:11:41,910 --> 02:11:39,440
looking to me pull that hat off

3335
02:11:43,030 --> 02:11:41,920
now he had a head full of hair it wasn't

3336
02:11:45,270 --> 02:11:43,040
past his shoulders

3337
02:11:46,550 --> 02:11:45,280
it was kind of scroungy and but he had a

3338
02:11:49,750 --> 02:11:46,560
head full of hair

3339
02:11:51,510 --> 02:11:49,760
now i can't believe i didn't because

3340
02:11:54,149 --> 02:11:51,520
i normally i would think would have done

3341
02:11:56,229 --> 02:11:54,159
this didn't touch his head

3342
02:11:57,589 --> 02:11:56,239
but when he lifted up that boy hat he

3343
02:11:59,990 --> 02:11:57,599
had tuffs

3344
02:12:01,750 --> 02:12:00,000
on top of his head on both sides in a

3345
02:12:03,510 --> 02:12:01,760
perfect place where freaking horns there

3346
02:12:05,750 --> 02:12:03,520
was no doubt to me

3347
02:12:07,990 --> 02:12:05,760
that he had him there was no doubt i

3348
02:12:09,669 --> 02:12:08,000
mean yet i can't use anything and tell

3349
02:12:13,510 --> 02:12:09,679
you how he expressed it

3350
02:12:16,709 --> 02:12:13,520
yeah what early days this was on easter

3351
02:12:17,510 --> 02:12:16,719
sunday early 90s before the 1990s

3352
02:12:21,350 --> 02:12:17,520
started

3353
02:12:21,910 --> 02:12:21,360
it was 1990 you know implants and stuff

3354
02:12:25,350 --> 02:12:21,920
yeah

3355
02:12:31,270 --> 02:12:25,360
enough

3356
02:12:31,990 --> 02:12:31,280
that you noticed you know whether or not

3357
02:12:34,149 --> 02:12:32,000
it had been

3358
02:12:35,990 --> 02:12:34,159
actual horns out of bones but it was

3359
02:12:37,910 --> 02:12:36,000
like oh that doesn't look

3360
02:12:39,270 --> 02:12:37,920
i don't look totally right i don't know

3361
02:12:40,870 --> 02:12:39,280
who for all we know we

3362
02:12:42,470 --> 02:12:40,880
joe might have horns he always wears a

3363
02:12:44,950 --> 02:12:42,480
bandana

3364
02:12:46,149 --> 02:12:44,960
what do you mean say that to somebody

3365
02:12:48,229 --> 02:12:46,159
wow

3366
02:12:49,669 --> 02:12:48,239
and again i've already gone through the

3367
02:12:52,950 --> 02:12:49,679
telepathic part of this

3368
02:12:54,709 --> 02:12:52,960
prior to that porn experience so it's

3369
02:12:56,470 --> 02:12:54,719
like well i'm already he's got me at

3370
02:12:57,910 --> 02:12:56,480
this point he's got me

3371
02:12:59,510 --> 02:12:57,920
because i'm already across the parking

3372
02:13:03,109 --> 02:12:59,520
lot up in his face

3373
02:13:05,510 --> 02:13:03,119
it's not my normal procedure and then

3374
02:13:07,990 --> 02:13:05,520
i didn't touch his head he put his

3375
02:13:10,790 --> 02:13:08,000
little boy hat back on his head

3376
02:13:11,990 --> 02:13:10,800
and he had me convinced i'm like damn

3377
02:13:13,830 --> 02:13:12,000
people grow horns

3378
02:13:15,350 --> 02:13:13,840
really i come from an indian world i've

3379
02:13:18,870 --> 02:13:15,360
heard all this stuff but

3380
02:13:23,270 --> 02:13:18,880
i yeah see it this is crazy

3381
02:13:24,470 --> 02:13:23,280
let's just add crazy you know yeah

3382
02:13:26,310 --> 02:13:24,480
i know there's different there's

3383
02:13:27,910 --> 02:13:26,320
different words for pan there's there's

3384
02:13:31,270 --> 02:13:27,920
a there's one in like

3385
02:13:31,669 --> 02:13:31,280
uh uh the celtic religion but there's

3386
02:13:35,030 --> 02:13:31,679
also

3387
02:13:37,589 --> 02:13:35,040
it's there's it's either fawn or uh sat

3388
02:13:39,109 --> 02:13:37,599
a seder or pan i think i think it's kind

3389
02:13:41,189 --> 02:13:39,119
of all synonymous but

3390
02:13:42,830 --> 02:13:41,199
if anybody out there that's listening

3391
02:13:45,669 --> 02:13:42,840
please uh you know

3392
02:13:49,510 --> 02:13:45,679
yeah and that's because i always

3393
02:13:50,870 --> 02:13:49,520
put him as like like a demon or a devil

3394
02:13:54,709 --> 02:13:50,880
kind of thing

3395
02:13:58,470 --> 02:13:54,719
but then when you said pan

3396
02:13:59,830 --> 02:13:58,480
total sense with the wine or whatever

3397
02:14:03,990 --> 02:13:59,840
that mixture was

3398
02:14:07,350 --> 02:14:04,000
of that nectar that they were drinking

3399
02:14:10,629 --> 02:14:07,360
well there's a sorry go ahead

3400
02:14:11,589 --> 02:14:10,639
no oh yeah so like there's there's also

3401
02:14:14,310 --> 02:14:11,599
a word for that

3402
02:14:14,790 --> 02:14:14,320
uh there's probably a mythology expert

3403
02:14:18,229 --> 02:14:14,800
out there

3404
02:14:20,629 --> 02:14:18,239
but they uh scholars don't eat scholars

3405
02:14:23,030 --> 02:14:20,639
long lost the translation but there's

3406
02:14:23,510 --> 02:14:23,040
like a word for it wasn't wine it wasn't

3407
02:14:29,830 --> 02:14:23,520
like

3408
02:14:32,390 --> 02:14:29,840
what are you describing i'm a connector

3409
02:14:35,270 --> 02:14:32,400
it was like a nectar of the gods man

3410
02:14:36,470 --> 02:14:35,280
yeah nectar the gods that's exactly

3411
02:14:37,270 --> 02:14:36,480
that's the only way i know how to

3412
02:14:40,790 --> 02:14:37,280
describe it

3413
02:14:43,750 --> 02:14:40,800
that's [\h__\h] weird right

3414
02:14:45,189 --> 02:14:43,760
like all of this so is this now we'll

3415
02:14:47,589 --> 02:14:45,199
fast forward back to that

3416
02:14:50,470 --> 02:14:47,599
crazy party and the nectar drinking and

3417
02:14:53,830 --> 02:14:50,480
the rolls-roycey pulling up and this

3418
02:14:54,950 --> 02:14:53,840
very strange gathering of people i'm a

3419
02:14:57,990 --> 02:14:54,960
happy girl

3420
02:15:00,149 --> 02:14:58,000
i am so happy i can't hardly breathe

3421
02:15:01,669 --> 02:15:00,159
i just have no idea what i'm in the

3422
02:15:03,270 --> 02:15:01,679
middle of but it's a party and

3423
02:15:05,030 --> 02:15:03,280
everybody's happy and they're happy to

3424
02:15:05,589 --> 02:15:05,040
know me and i'm happy they're happy to

3425
02:15:07,990 --> 02:15:05,599
know me

3426
02:15:09,510 --> 02:15:08,000
and i'm just getting so caught up in

3427
02:15:13,189 --> 02:15:09,520
this insanity

3428
02:15:14,149 --> 02:15:13,199
that my friend he wasn't now he's not

3429
02:15:18,310 --> 02:15:14,159
drinking

3430
02:15:21,430 --> 02:15:18,320
he's not partaking he's getting pissed

3431
02:15:22,390 --> 02:15:21,440
he also knows and feels that we're in

3432
02:15:28,390 --> 02:15:22,400
danger

3433
02:15:29,510 --> 02:15:28,400
he makes it real clear to me again we

3434
02:15:32,550 --> 02:15:29,520
gotta go

3435
02:15:34,310 --> 02:15:32,560
it's time to go now i don't wanna go

3436
02:15:35,990 --> 02:15:34,320
i'm just having too much fun and i don't

3437
02:15:38,950 --> 02:15:36,000
wanna go but something

3438
02:15:40,470 --> 02:15:38,960
again helped me get convinced to get on

3439
02:15:43,109 --> 02:15:40,480
that bike

3440
02:15:44,310 --> 02:15:43,119
good yeah i get on the bike and that

3441
02:15:46,790 --> 02:15:44,320
crowd

3442
02:15:48,069 --> 02:15:46,800
moved in around us encircled us and they

3443
02:15:51,109 --> 02:15:48,079
tightened that

3444
02:15:53,669 --> 02:15:51,119
circle all around us where he had to

3445
02:15:55,669 --> 02:15:53,679
move them with the bike so they they

3446
02:15:57,270 --> 02:15:55,679
gathered around the motorcycle and the

3447
02:15:58,550 --> 02:15:57,280
engine's on he's y'all are trying to

3448
02:16:01,750 --> 02:15:58,560
leave and everybody's like no

3449
02:16:02,229 --> 02:16:01,760
stay with us i don't remember him saying

3450
02:16:04,470 --> 02:16:02,239
that

3451
02:16:05,910 --> 02:16:04,480
i just remember the physicality of it

3452
02:16:09,750 --> 02:16:05,920
they moved in around

3453
02:16:13,990 --> 02:16:12,709
yeah they made it like very difficult

3454
02:16:16,870 --> 02:16:14,000
okay

3455
02:16:17,430 --> 02:16:16,880
move through this is really crazy

3456
02:16:19,589 --> 02:16:17,440
because

3457
02:16:21,669 --> 02:16:19,599
we just looked up that nectar of the

3458
02:16:24,950 --> 02:16:21,679
gods that we were talking about

3459
02:16:26,950 --> 02:16:24,960
it's called ambrosia and when you

3460
02:16:29,030 --> 02:16:26,960
when you look at the color it's a

3461
02:16:32,230 --> 02:16:29,040
reddish orange

3462
02:16:35,429 --> 02:16:32,240
light pink color thank you yeah

3463
02:16:37,750 --> 02:16:35,439
holy crap exactly exactly

3464
02:16:38,469 --> 02:16:37,760
i'll read i'll read the definition

3465
02:16:41,030 --> 02:16:38,479
albeit

3466
02:16:42,870 --> 02:16:41,040
it's it's wikipedia but you know but the

3467
02:16:44,870 --> 02:16:42,880
definition of ambrosia is a

3468
02:16:47,389 --> 02:16:44,880
ambrosia is a very closely related to

3469
02:16:48,790 --> 02:16:47,399
the gods other form of substance

3470
02:16:53,030 --> 02:16:48,800
sustenance

3471
02:16:56,549 --> 02:16:53,040
uh comma nectar period the two terms may

3472
02:17:01,190 --> 02:16:56,559
not have originally been distinguished

3473
02:17:04,709 --> 02:17:03,270
though in homer's poems nectar is

3474
02:17:07,110 --> 02:17:04,719
usually the drink

3475
02:17:07,910 --> 02:17:07,120
and ambrosia is the food of the gods so

3476
02:17:10,309 --> 02:17:07,920
there's some

3477
02:17:11,349 --> 02:17:10,319
there's not it's not completely clear if

3478
02:17:14,549 --> 02:17:11,359
it's food or

3479
02:17:17,509 --> 02:17:14,559
or a liquid but uh it's obviously

3480
02:17:19,030 --> 02:17:17,519
connected in some way and uh so it says

3481
02:17:20,950 --> 02:17:19,040
that it's it's a drink

3482
02:17:22,549 --> 02:17:20,960
that has been uh that is consumed by

3483
02:17:25,669 --> 02:17:22,559
gods and it's supposed to give you like

3484
02:17:28,469 --> 02:17:25,679
longevity and uh all kinds of

3485
02:17:29,429 --> 02:17:28,479
weird [\h__\h] so that's very interesting

3486
02:17:31,270 --> 02:17:29,439
because nobody

3487
02:17:33,030 --> 02:17:31,280
everybody thinks i'm 20 years younger

3488
02:17:35,750 --> 02:17:33,040
than i am no one has

3489
02:17:37,429 --> 02:17:35,760
any idea you could not tell that i'm 10

3490
02:17:39,750 --> 02:17:37,439
years older than chad

3491
02:17:41,349 --> 02:17:39,760
and i look much younger if i take better

3492
02:17:42,950 --> 02:17:41,359
care of myself that'd be a whole nother

3493
02:17:43,669 --> 02:17:42,960
story but i don't have ego involved in

3494
02:17:46,389 --> 02:17:43,679
this

3495
02:17:48,549 --> 02:17:46,399
naturally yeah i am very looking

3496
02:17:51,589 --> 02:17:48,559
compared to my age oh yeah

3497
02:17:53,910 --> 02:17:51,599
and myself oh my that is

3498
02:17:56,469 --> 02:17:53,920
so interesting you guys like this is man

3499
02:18:00,070 --> 02:17:56,479
we're well

3500
02:18:03,589 --> 02:18:00,080
that little crowd we get out of there

3501
02:18:06,230 --> 02:18:03,599
now he's hauling ass out of there

3502
02:18:07,190 --> 02:18:06,240
he's gone right there we back to being

3503
02:18:09,669 --> 02:18:07,200
gone girl

3504
02:18:11,429 --> 02:18:09,679
and we on that bike and he's flying and

3505
02:18:14,709 --> 02:18:11,439
we're on a perfect day

3506
02:18:15,429 --> 02:18:14,719
perfect weather perfect there was no

3507
02:18:18,790 --> 02:18:15,439
reason

3508
02:18:19,270 --> 02:18:18,800
for what happened to happen and what

3509
02:18:22,389 --> 02:18:19,280
happened

3510
02:18:24,629 --> 02:18:22,399
he wasn't drinking right he's sober

3511
02:18:26,070 --> 02:18:24,639
and right and again weather-wise

3512
02:18:27,830 --> 02:18:26,080
everything's perfect

3513
02:18:30,469 --> 02:18:27,840
all of a sudden that bike came out from

3514
02:18:33,030 --> 02:18:30,479
under him now he's hauling ass

3515
02:18:33,669 --> 02:18:33,040
i have no idea i'd be exaggerating if i

3516
02:18:37,589 --> 02:18:33,679
i want to say

3517
02:18:39,110 --> 02:18:37,599
90. i know how fast he was flying on

3518
02:18:41,270 --> 02:18:39,120
that bike

3519
02:18:42,230 --> 02:18:41,280
and the bike came out from under him and

3520
02:18:44,709 --> 02:18:42,240
i remember it

3521
02:18:46,150 --> 02:18:44,719
as clear as i'm telling you right now i

3522
02:18:48,950 --> 02:18:46,160
went airborne

3523
02:18:50,309 --> 02:18:48,960
he stayed with the bike he went down he

3524
02:18:53,349 --> 02:18:50,319
rode the bike

3525
02:18:56,950 --> 02:18:53,359
all the way down sideways on that

3526
02:19:00,150 --> 02:18:56,960
road i went off of it

3527
02:19:03,110 --> 02:19:00,160
and i took air and i flew

3528
02:19:04,790 --> 02:19:03,120
now i don't know how far i flew but it

3529
02:19:07,509 --> 02:19:04,800
was quite a ways

3530
02:19:08,309 --> 02:19:07,519
and when i hit well this is my next

3531
02:19:11,030 --> 02:19:08,319
memory

3532
02:19:11,589 --> 02:19:11,040
one minute i'm on that bike and we just

3533
02:19:15,190 --> 02:19:11,599
hauling

3534
02:19:18,309 --> 02:19:15,200
you know booty and next thing

3535
02:19:25,030 --> 02:19:18,319
i'm being turned over

3536
02:19:28,790 --> 02:19:25,040
i have long hair it's all in my face

3537
02:19:32,230 --> 02:19:28,800
the shield on that helmet had collapsed

3538
02:19:35,750 --> 02:19:32,240
and that's in my face put a hole in

3539
02:19:37,509 --> 02:19:35,760
my eyebrow down to the bone above my eye

3540
02:19:39,030 --> 02:19:37,519
but i don't know any of this at the time

3541
02:19:42,629 --> 02:19:39,040
because the first image

3542
02:19:44,469 --> 02:19:42,639
that i have is i'm looking straight up

3543
02:19:48,389 --> 02:19:44,479
through blood and whatever

3544
02:19:51,990 --> 02:19:48,399
and i see a huge neon cross

3545
02:19:54,950 --> 02:19:52,000
it's a huge neon cross

3546
02:19:56,309 --> 02:19:54,960
and my first memory my first thought is

3547
02:19:59,590 --> 02:19:56,319
oh my god it's

3548
02:20:03,349 --> 02:19:59,600
real forgive me all right

3549
02:20:05,910 --> 02:20:03,359
it's real and they've got neon

3550
02:20:07,349 --> 02:20:05,920
i was raised in religions and i was

3551
02:20:10,630 --> 02:20:07,359
written but i was raised by a

3552
02:20:12,630 --> 02:20:10,640
very very open mother if you will that

3553
02:20:14,630 --> 02:20:12,640
gave me the opportunity to experience a

3554
02:20:17,270 --> 02:20:14,640
lot of different kinds of

3555
02:20:18,230 --> 02:20:17,280
everything from you know methodists to

3556
02:20:21,590 --> 02:20:18,240
uh

3557
02:20:23,590 --> 02:20:21,600
to in some forms of fashion i was raised

3558
02:20:24,070 --> 02:20:23,600
or spent a lot of time in the orthodox

3559
02:20:27,510 --> 02:20:24,080
church

3560
02:20:29,349 --> 02:20:27,520
the greek orthodox the eastern orthodox

3561
02:20:31,270 --> 02:20:29,359
my mother was raised in the catholic

3562
02:20:33,429 --> 02:20:31,280
world in an early life

3563
02:20:34,469 --> 02:20:33,439
she'd had so much abuse that she made it

3564
02:20:36,469 --> 02:20:34,479
real clear to me

3565
02:20:38,070 --> 02:20:36,479
you're on your own kind of you know you

3566
02:20:40,389 --> 02:20:38,080
pick your way yeah

3567
02:20:41,910 --> 02:20:40,399
and so it was wonderful it was wonderful

3568
02:20:44,070 --> 02:20:41,920
in that regards but all of a sudden i'm

3569
02:20:46,870 --> 02:20:44,080
seeing a big neon cross and i'm i'm

3570
02:20:48,630 --> 02:20:46,880
not happy because i'm thinking oh my god

3571
02:20:51,750 --> 02:20:48,640
jesus it's real

3572
02:20:56,150 --> 02:20:51,760
all these things is real this cross

3573
02:20:58,150 --> 02:20:56,160
this crossing so then what we discover

3574
02:21:00,070 --> 02:20:58,160
is as i said my cl the shield had

3575
02:21:02,230 --> 02:21:00,080
collapsed on my face

3576
02:21:03,910 --> 02:21:02,240
and but thank the heavens thank the gods

3577
02:21:04,790 --> 02:21:03,920
because without it i'd have been dead no

3578
02:21:07,990 --> 02:21:04,800
question about it

3579
02:21:11,030 --> 02:21:08,000
yeah apparently when i went airborne

3580
02:21:14,469 --> 02:21:11,040
i hit face down and slid

3581
02:21:17,590 --> 02:21:14,479
i have no idea how far on my belly

3582
02:21:19,670 --> 02:21:17,600
it's what made that thing collapse and

3583
02:21:20,950 --> 02:21:19,680
this is even as bizarre as all the rest

3584
02:21:23,670 --> 02:21:20,960
of the story

3585
02:21:25,510 --> 02:21:23,680
how convenient is this the people that

3586
02:21:27,349 --> 02:21:25,520
were turning me over

3587
02:21:29,110 --> 02:21:27,359
were people that were following us

3588
02:21:31,670 --> 02:21:29,120
supposedly in a van

3589
02:21:32,630 --> 02:21:31,680
that were trauma nurses and doctors

3590
02:21:39,030 --> 02:21:32,640
really

3591
02:21:41,349 --> 02:21:39,040
what is yeah seriously that supposedly

3592
02:21:42,389 --> 02:21:41,359
is what sees or claims to have seen what

3593
02:21:45,670 --> 02:21:42,399
happened

3594
02:21:46,950 --> 02:21:45,680
and first on duty to you know get to my

3595
02:21:50,870 --> 02:21:46,960
attention

3596
02:21:53,270 --> 02:21:50,880
now they they i never saw him again

3597
02:21:55,349 --> 02:21:53,280
because i got a lot of issues going on i

3598
02:21:57,830 --> 02:21:55,359
have a hole in my head

3599
02:21:58,630 --> 02:21:57,840
i'm still and i'm conscious at this

3600
02:22:01,990 --> 02:21:58,640
point

3601
02:22:04,230 --> 02:22:02,000
and i'm flipping effing out because

3602
02:22:05,990 --> 02:22:04,240
i'm realizing at any point now i've got

3603
02:22:09,590 --> 02:22:06,000
to go to a hospital

3604
02:22:11,910 --> 02:22:09,600
i don't do hospitals i don't do doctors

3605
02:22:14,389 --> 02:22:11,920
i don't do any of that anymore and i

3606
02:22:17,349 --> 02:22:14,399
stopped doing that a long time ago

3607
02:22:19,110 --> 02:22:17,359
and so the last thing i'm going to allow

3608
02:22:22,150 --> 02:22:19,120
is to take me to a hospital

3609
02:22:24,309 --> 02:22:22,160
i'm not gonna i'm not going to cop

3610
02:22:25,190 --> 02:22:24,319
shows up and makes it real clear to my

3611
02:22:26,550 --> 02:22:25,200
friend

3612
02:22:29,349 --> 02:22:26,560
she's either going to get in that

3613
02:22:31,910 --> 02:22:29,359
ambulance or i'm going to arrest you

3614
02:22:33,190 --> 02:22:31,920
he threatened him and only out of that

3615
02:22:35,110 --> 02:22:33,200
because i'm loyal

3616
02:22:37,429 --> 02:22:35,120
did i allow myself to be put in that

3617
02:22:39,429 --> 02:22:37,439
ambulance and sent to the hospital

3618
02:22:41,270 --> 02:22:39,439
i get to the hospital they take all my

3619
02:22:43,110 --> 02:22:41,280
clothes off because i am ripped and

3620
02:22:44,790 --> 02:22:43,120
bloodied and just a mess

3621
02:22:46,309 --> 02:22:44,800
road rash from the top of my head

3622
02:22:49,190 --> 02:22:46,319
obviously down to my toes

3623
02:22:50,230 --> 02:22:49,200
got a hole above my eye i gotta have

3624
02:22:52,469 --> 02:22:50,240
stitches

3625
02:22:53,349 --> 02:22:52,479
but i want out of that hospital i want

3626
02:22:55,590 --> 02:22:53,359
out

3627
02:22:57,590 --> 02:22:55,600
so i wait till nobody's looking and they

3628
02:22:59,349 --> 02:22:57,600
got me naked with a one of those gowns

3629
02:23:01,110 --> 02:22:59,359
on that don't close up in the back

3630
02:23:03,270 --> 02:23:01,120
yeah and i call that i call that

3631
02:23:04,870 --> 02:23:03,280
girlfriend that i told you about earlier

3632
02:23:06,070 --> 02:23:04,880
she didn't live far from that hospital

3633
02:23:07,030 --> 02:23:06,080
and i'm like you're going to help me

3634
02:23:09,510 --> 02:23:07,040
escape

3635
02:23:10,630 --> 02:23:09,520
i'm getting out of here come get me she

3636
02:23:12,630 --> 02:23:10,640
didn't hesitate

3637
02:23:14,630 --> 02:23:12,640
she comes and gets me and we snuck me

3638
02:23:17,110 --> 02:23:14,640
out of there

3639
02:23:18,950 --> 02:23:17,120
now i leave i escaped the hospital in

3640
02:23:21,030 --> 02:23:18,960
that gown and i'm a mess

3641
02:23:23,270 --> 02:23:21,040
obviously i'm a mess and i was supposed

3642
02:23:25,349 --> 02:23:23,280
to meet her then i was just about to say

3643
02:23:27,190 --> 02:23:25,359
that

3644
02:23:29,190 --> 02:23:27,200
i was supposed to meet her then here you

3645
02:23:31,590 --> 02:23:29,200
have it so

3646
02:23:34,070 --> 02:23:31,600
she does obviously i don't show up

3647
02:23:35,270 --> 02:23:34,080
because i'm trying to escape a hospital

3648
02:23:36,870 --> 02:23:35,280
yeah you're like trying to explain

3649
02:23:37,670 --> 02:23:36,880
yourself like all right let me just tell

3650
02:23:40,710 --> 02:23:37,680
you

3651
02:23:44,710 --> 02:23:40,720
uh there was a bunch of people down

3652
02:23:47,349 --> 02:23:44,720
by the river and so

3653
02:23:48,469 --> 02:23:47,359
we escaped me out of the hospital the

3654
02:23:50,630 --> 02:23:48,479
next day

3655
02:23:52,389 --> 02:23:50,640
my mother learns about this i'm at

3656
02:23:54,710 --> 02:23:52,399
somebody else's house she comes

3657
02:23:55,990 --> 02:23:54,720
over there she looks at me and i got a

3658
02:23:59,270 --> 02:23:56,000
hole in my head

3659
02:24:00,790 --> 02:23:59,280
and she's like you i'll clean the

3660
02:24:03,910 --> 02:24:00,800
language of you take you

3661
02:24:06,790 --> 02:24:03,920
and your arse

3662
02:24:07,830 --> 02:24:06,800
back to that hospital now you need

3663
02:24:11,030 --> 02:24:07,840
stitches

3664
02:24:15,030 --> 02:24:11,040
now now so now i'm

3665
02:24:17,270 --> 02:24:15,040
24 hours into this injury that's a mess

3666
02:24:19,990 --> 02:24:17,280
i got all this dryness on my face and

3667
02:24:21,990 --> 02:24:20,000
all this road rash and whatever

3668
02:24:23,670 --> 02:24:22,000
my girlfriend who escaped me out of the

3669
02:24:24,950 --> 02:24:23,680
hospital she's now going to go back

3670
02:24:26,469 --> 02:24:24,960
there with me

3671
02:24:27,990 --> 02:24:26,479
because she's going to hold my hand

3672
02:24:30,630 --> 02:24:28,000
through this because i can't believe

3673
02:24:31,110 --> 02:24:30,640
i have to show back up in the condition

3674
02:24:34,150 --> 02:24:31,120
that i'm

3675
02:24:35,510 --> 02:24:34,160
in and beg for help so

3676
02:24:37,590 --> 02:24:35,520
because it's either that or my mom's

3677
02:24:44,710 --> 02:24:37,600
going to kill me there's no question

3678
02:24:48,630 --> 02:24:47,190
right and wouldn't you know that the the

3679
02:24:51,349 --> 02:24:48,640
dude that was my nurse

3680
02:24:52,630 --> 02:24:51,359
the night before happened to be my nurse

3681
02:24:56,150 --> 02:24:52,640
the next day

3682
02:24:59,670 --> 02:24:56,160
he's pissed when i show back up

3683
02:25:00,710 --> 02:24:59,680
so he took such pleasure let me just say

3684
02:25:03,349 --> 02:25:00,720
that one more time

3685
02:25:06,150 --> 02:25:03,359
he's taking so much pleasure and

3686
02:25:08,150 --> 02:25:06,160
scrubbing me up

3687
02:25:10,710 --> 02:25:08,160
got to get the gravel out of me he's got

3688
02:25:11,590 --> 02:25:10,720
to get the oh my oh i wouldn't wish that

3689
02:25:14,870 --> 02:25:11,600
on anybody

3690
02:25:17,110 --> 02:25:14,880
no i sit waiting

3691
02:25:19,590 --> 02:25:17,120
we got a gorgeous doctor who comes in

3692
02:25:20,550 --> 02:25:19,600
the room to stitch me up so him and my

3693
02:25:23,110 --> 02:25:20,560
girlfriend are

3694
02:25:24,630 --> 02:25:23,120
flirting and carrying on with each other

3695
02:25:25,429 --> 02:25:24,640
well i'm laying there with a hole in my

3696
02:25:28,150 --> 02:25:25,439
head and i just

3697
02:25:29,349 --> 02:25:28,160
and where's chad chad is never going to

3698
02:25:32,790 --> 02:25:29,359
leave any of this

3699
02:25:34,870 --> 02:25:32,800
oh my god what have i done

3700
02:25:37,270 --> 02:25:34,880
he's never going to believe this she's

3701
02:25:39,830 --> 02:25:37,280
just she was supposed to so finally

3702
02:25:40,550 --> 02:25:39,840
two days after i'm supposed to meet him

3703
02:25:43,590 --> 02:25:40,560
right

3704
02:25:47,110 --> 02:25:43,600
i go driving my sorry ass up

3705
02:25:49,750 --> 02:25:47,120
in my car to his house that i remembered

3706
02:25:51,590 --> 02:25:49,760
that i had been at he's sitting outside

3707
02:25:54,070 --> 02:25:51,600
of his mom's house

3708
02:25:54,790 --> 02:25:54,080
the house is all packed up in the

3709
02:25:57,270 --> 02:25:54,800
meantime

3710
02:25:58,710 --> 02:25:57,280
she's decided she's moving so they're

3711
02:26:00,309 --> 02:25:58,720
about to move

3712
02:26:02,070 --> 02:26:00,319
if this would not have happened when it

3713
02:26:03,429 --> 02:26:02,080
did he'd have gotten gone and that had

3714
02:26:05,910 --> 02:26:03,439
been all she wrote

3715
02:26:06,469 --> 02:26:05,920
right but as it stands he's sitting

3716
02:26:08,550 --> 02:26:06,479
there

3717
02:26:09,910 --> 02:26:08,560
beating bruised and battered from his

3718
02:26:12,309 --> 02:26:09,920
accident right

3719
02:26:13,030 --> 02:26:12,319
i come dragging my sorry self up the

3720
02:26:15,190 --> 02:26:13,040
hill

3721
02:26:16,309 --> 02:26:15,200
he takes a look at me now he don't want

3722
02:26:18,550 --> 02:26:16,319
to see me because

3723
02:26:20,469 --> 02:26:18,560
he don't like me at this point but he

3724
02:26:23,590 --> 02:26:20,479
can't help but love me because i

3725
02:26:26,710 --> 02:26:23,600
am a mess thank

3726
02:26:27,510 --> 02:26:26,720
thank goodness now you know i'm you know

3727
02:26:30,870 --> 02:26:27,520
i don't want to

3728
02:26:34,630 --> 02:26:30,880
sound bad but i

3729
02:26:37,270 --> 02:26:34,640
my my

3730
02:26:38,230 --> 02:26:37,280
where i went to the doctor he had no

3731
02:26:41,030 --> 02:26:38,240
problem

3732
02:26:42,309 --> 02:26:41,040
writing me a prescription for pain right

3733
02:26:45,349 --> 02:26:42,319
yeah

3734
02:26:46,830 --> 02:26:45,359
not outsider doctor nothing nothing not

3735
02:26:55,910 --> 02:26:46,840
an aspirin

3736
02:26:59,510 --> 02:26:58,070
i don't have stitches uh i mean i

3737
02:27:01,590 --> 02:26:59,520
grabbed you don't got a hole in his head

3738
02:27:04,950 --> 02:27:01,600
yeah i don't have a hole in my head

3739
02:27:05,429 --> 02:27:04,960
so chad's got the pain pills and he had

3740
02:27:09,030 --> 02:27:05,439
like

3741
02:27:11,429 --> 02:27:09,040
well it was love at first

3742
02:27:13,270 --> 02:27:11,439
hell yeah that happens to me too because

3743
02:27:15,590 --> 02:27:13,280
i i have long hair

3744
02:27:17,590 --> 02:27:15,600
and like a beard and like people have

3745
02:27:19,429 --> 02:27:17,600
their first time assumptions so anytime

3746
02:27:21,910 --> 02:27:19,439
like i go to the dentist or something

3747
02:27:23,030 --> 02:27:21,920
they never give me painkillers at all

3748
02:27:26,070 --> 02:27:23,040
they're like

3749
02:27:28,309 --> 02:27:26,080
talking yeah yeah yeah joe

3750
02:27:30,790 --> 02:27:28,319
you look like me they're never gonna

3751
02:27:32,230 --> 02:27:30,800
trust us

3752
02:27:33,830 --> 02:27:32,240
they're always like yeah take a couple

3753
02:27:35,830 --> 02:27:33,840
aspirin and you should be fine

3754
02:27:38,070 --> 02:27:35,840
and i'm like well you just gave that up

3755
02:27:39,830 --> 02:27:38,080
you gave that 13 year old girl like a

3756
02:27:42,830 --> 02:27:39,840
month supply of vicodin why

3757
02:27:44,389 --> 02:27:42,840
can't i why do i have to take aspirin

3758
02:27:46,710 --> 02:27:44,399
exactly right

3759
02:27:47,830 --> 02:27:46,720
yeah there's the story coming out i kind

3760
02:27:50,550 --> 02:27:47,840
of went you know

3761
02:27:52,630 --> 02:27:50,560
well i got these and i said well you got

3762
02:27:53,990 --> 02:27:52,640
me and i'll take those skills and life

3763
02:27:57,349 --> 02:27:54,000
is gonna get on with

3764
02:27:59,429 --> 02:27:57,359
it yeah i mean so i was in the back of a

3765
02:28:00,469 --> 02:27:59,439
uh when i had my accident i was in the

3766
02:28:03,270 --> 02:28:00,479
back of a

3767
02:28:04,230 --> 02:28:03,280
uh converted mustang convertible and i

3768
02:28:07,910 --> 02:28:04,240
just

3769
02:28:11,590 --> 02:28:07,920
you know

3770
02:28:15,190 --> 02:28:11,600
and just helped his uncle's door

3771
02:28:15,910 --> 02:28:15,200
i mean yeah it's my my uncle flew out of

3772
02:28:19,750 --> 02:28:15,920
the car

3773
02:28:22,710 --> 02:28:19,760
and like planted into the tree i saw him

3774
02:28:24,309 --> 02:28:22,720
like yeah crazy accidents like really

3775
02:28:27,990 --> 02:28:24,319
severe thank god my

3776
02:28:31,670 --> 02:28:28,000
uh my aunt she was uh my aunt

3777
02:28:33,830 --> 02:28:31,680
she she was buckled in and

3778
02:28:34,790 --> 02:28:33,840
so that is our first this was all of

3779
02:28:38,150 --> 02:28:34,800
ours this was ours

3780
02:28:41,349 --> 02:28:38,160
a lot more than you asked for getting

3781
02:28:44,469 --> 02:28:41,359
back together you know get out

3782
02:28:46,950 --> 02:28:44,479
again so so we made up our mind

3783
02:28:47,590 --> 02:28:46,960
this is it yeah we're not going to part

3784
02:28:51,110 --> 02:28:47,600
again

3785
02:28:53,429 --> 02:28:51,120
we will just get on with it so now

3786
02:28:54,550 --> 02:28:53,439
hammonds yeah because you were asking us

3787
02:28:57,590 --> 02:28:54,560
about him

3788
02:29:00,630 --> 02:28:57,600
yeah so there's still a lot more

3789
02:29:03,349 --> 02:29:00,640
yeah there's a little bit of in between

3790
02:29:04,150 --> 02:29:03,359
there's a lot yeah a lot in between with

3791
02:29:06,710 --> 02:29:04,160
especially

3792
02:29:07,830 --> 02:29:06,720
with our mutual friend and everything so

3793
02:29:12,550 --> 02:29:07,840
then

3794
02:29:17,110 --> 02:29:12,560
arkansas we married a year later in 91

3795
02:29:20,150 --> 02:29:19,190
yeah i worked for the mayo clinic for a

3796
02:29:22,309 --> 02:29:20,160
minute

3797
02:29:23,670 --> 02:29:22,319
and that happens to be in rochester

3798
02:29:25,750 --> 02:29:23,680
minnesota

3799
02:29:27,030 --> 02:29:25,760
so we decided on a tuesday afternoon

3800
02:29:29,110 --> 02:29:27,040
let's get married

3801
02:29:30,309 --> 02:29:29,120
and we had the best time of our life the

3802
02:29:34,150 --> 02:29:30,319
best at the court

3803
02:29:36,469 --> 02:29:34,160
it was fabulous and then so that's 91

3804
02:29:39,110 --> 02:29:36,479
now we'll fast forward to because a lot

3805
02:29:41,910 --> 02:29:39,120
in between to 95

3806
02:29:43,349 --> 02:29:41,920
my mom has left arkansas and moved to

3807
02:29:45,750 --> 02:29:43,359
louisiana

3808
02:29:46,389 --> 02:29:45,760
she's living on other people's property

3809
02:29:49,990 --> 02:29:46,399
they had a

3810
02:29:53,110 --> 02:29:50,000
large piece of property this husband and

3811
02:29:55,190 --> 02:29:53,120
wife he had he had

3812
02:29:56,630 --> 02:29:55,200
you might understand the word teepees i

3813
02:29:59,510 --> 02:29:56,640
call them lodges

3814
02:30:00,070 --> 02:29:59,520
yeah he had several on his property he

3815
02:30:03,110 --> 02:30:00,080
had a

3816
02:30:05,429 --> 02:30:03,120
whole community of buffalo yeah

3817
02:30:07,110 --> 02:30:05,439
he had a petting zoo yeah and he was

3818
02:30:08,790 --> 02:30:07,120
creating this environment for

3819
02:30:11,190 --> 02:30:08,800
educational purposes

3820
02:30:13,030 --> 02:30:11,200
yeah where they would bust children in

3821
02:30:15,830 --> 02:30:13,040
and tourism and all

3822
02:30:17,590 --> 02:30:15,840
about native world and buffalo and this

3823
02:30:20,710 --> 02:30:17,600
and that so my mom

3824
02:30:22,710 --> 02:30:20,720
being the residential indian in arkansas

3825
02:30:24,150 --> 02:30:22,720
they right she's retired at this point

3826
02:30:25,990 --> 02:30:24,160
and so on so they asked her do you want

3827
02:30:27,349 --> 02:30:26,000
to come and live here pam

3828
02:30:29,270 --> 02:30:27,359
in this other house we've got another

3829
02:30:31,030 --> 02:30:29,280
house on the property and we're going to

3830
02:30:31,990 --> 02:30:31,040
do this tourism and children thing and

3831
02:30:34,710 --> 02:30:32,000
she was an educator

3832
02:30:36,630 --> 02:30:34,720
and also she jumped on it so she moves

3833
02:30:39,830 --> 02:30:36,640
there first with these folks

3834
02:30:41,510 --> 02:30:39,840
then she lets us know that there's an

3835
02:30:43,429 --> 02:30:41,520
opening for us to come there if we want

3836
02:30:45,030 --> 02:30:43,439
to come there and join her and well yeah

3837
02:30:46,389 --> 02:30:45,040
we jumped on board

3838
02:30:49,750 --> 02:30:46,399
and mom and i are going to be this

3839
02:30:51,830 --> 02:30:49,760
little dynamic duo in our regalia

3840
02:30:52,790 --> 02:30:51,840
and we're going to just and chad is just

3841
02:30:55,270 --> 02:30:52,800
amazing with

3842
02:30:57,510 --> 02:30:55,280
animals uh they dressed me up as like

3843
02:30:58,070 --> 02:30:57,520
the local sheriff and i had like the

3844
02:31:01,830 --> 02:30:58,080
little

3845
02:31:02,710 --> 02:31:01,840
six gun and nice so that lasted for a

3846
02:31:06,070 --> 02:31:02,720
minute

3847
02:31:07,990 --> 02:31:06,080
and then it all fell apart and

3848
02:31:09,750 --> 02:31:08,000
next thing we know chad and i are still

3849
02:31:10,630 --> 02:31:09,760
in that area but not living on that

3850
02:31:12,950 --> 02:31:10,640
property anymore

3851
02:31:13,990 --> 02:31:12,960
it's right outside we've moved to a

3852
02:31:15,910 --> 02:31:14,000
mobile home this

3853
02:31:18,150 --> 02:31:15,920
kind of funky old place just to have a

3854
02:31:21,110 --> 02:31:18,160
place to figure out what our next

3855
02:31:23,510 --> 02:31:21,120
steps are going to be it in outside of

3856
02:31:26,710 --> 02:31:23,520
this community called hammond

3857
02:31:28,870 --> 02:31:26,720
now hammond is a small

3858
02:31:30,150 --> 02:31:28,880
but it's fairly substantial several

3859
02:31:33,910 --> 02:31:30,160
thousand people but still

3860
02:31:34,710 --> 02:31:33,920
fairly small college town or university

3861
02:31:37,750 --> 02:31:34,720
town

3862
02:31:38,230 --> 02:31:37,760
in louisiana probably about 45 minutes

3863
02:31:40,469 --> 02:31:38,240
or so

3864
02:31:42,469 --> 02:31:40,479
outside of new orleans it's uh it's what

3865
02:31:45,910 --> 02:31:42,479
they call the the north shore

3866
02:31:49,750 --> 02:31:45,920
yeah yeah so

3867
02:31:50,389 --> 02:31:49,760
we we moved there and it's on a friday

3868
02:31:52,070 --> 02:31:50,399
evening

3869
02:31:54,230 --> 02:31:52,080
and we decided we're going to go into

3870
02:31:57,270 --> 02:31:54,240
hammond and have dinner

3871
02:31:58,230 --> 02:31:57,280
now the sun is still has not set yet so

3872
02:32:00,469 --> 02:31:58,240
we still i keep

3873
02:32:02,230 --> 02:32:00,479
emphasizing everything we've told you

3874
02:32:03,110 --> 02:32:02,240
about is happening in daylight i know

3875
02:32:06,790 --> 02:32:03,120
that sound

3876
02:32:10,550 --> 02:32:06,800
it's still still i'm going to open up

3877
02:32:12,710 --> 02:32:10,560
the line wine you guys sorry

3878
02:32:15,349 --> 02:32:12,720
chad knows that sound yeah i know he

3879
02:32:18,389 --> 02:32:15,359
called it immediately

3880
02:32:21,590 --> 02:32:18,399
he's like a legit eddie better

3881
02:32:23,270 --> 02:32:21,600
exactly so so we decided we're going to

3882
02:32:24,309 --> 02:32:23,280
go into hammond because we're living

3883
02:32:26,790 --> 02:32:24,319
kind of

3884
02:32:28,950 --> 02:32:26,800
a few miles outside and we're in swamp

3885
02:32:31,910 --> 02:32:28,960
yeah we're in the middle of the swamps

3886
02:32:33,750 --> 02:32:31,920
yeah and no civilization or anything so

3887
02:32:35,670 --> 02:32:33,760
we're gonna go where there's humans

3888
02:32:37,750 --> 02:32:35,680
and go have dinner gonna have dinner and

3889
02:32:39,349 --> 02:32:37,760
drinks that night that was our only plan

3890
02:32:41,429 --> 02:32:39,359
we had nothing else planned

3891
02:32:42,389 --> 02:32:41,439
now chad you pick it back up all right

3892
02:32:45,830 --> 02:32:42,399
so we're

3893
02:32:49,590 --> 02:32:45,840
chad's driving i'm passing i'm driving

3894
02:32:50,309 --> 02:32:49,600
yeah i'll just and we're driving into

3895
02:32:53,830 --> 02:32:50,319
town

3896
02:32:57,110 --> 02:32:53,840
and again it's still kind of daylight

3897
02:32:59,990 --> 02:32:57,120
you know it's getting kind of you know

3898
02:33:01,190 --> 02:33:00,000
evening it's still daylight yeah yeah we

3899
02:33:04,389 --> 02:33:01,200
come around this

3900
02:33:08,790 --> 02:33:04,399
big bend in the road

3901
02:33:11,830 --> 02:33:08,800
in a lot of trees like these tall pines

3902
02:33:15,670 --> 02:33:11,840
and then back behind the pines was

3903
02:33:17,349 --> 02:33:15,680
the local uh supersized walmart super

3904
02:33:20,950 --> 02:33:17,359
sized walmart

3905
02:33:24,389 --> 02:33:20,960
shopping center okay so we come around

3906
02:33:27,750 --> 02:33:24,399
the corner and we're on the back up

3907
02:33:30,790 --> 02:33:27,760
and there's this thing

3908
02:33:32,950 --> 02:33:30,800
this crap craft there's

3909
02:33:34,790 --> 02:33:32,960
something in the sky it's the size of

3910
02:33:37,830 --> 02:33:34,800
the sky huge

3911
02:33:39,110 --> 02:33:37,840
whoa when people say massive it's bigger

3912
02:33:42,230 --> 02:33:39,120
than

3913
02:33:42,630 --> 02:33:42,240
i mean i don't know how tall how high it

3914
02:33:45,349 --> 02:33:42,640
was

3915
02:33:46,070 --> 02:33:45,359
because i'm not good at that as far as

3916
02:33:47,910 --> 02:33:46,080
like

3917
02:33:49,910 --> 02:33:47,920
but it was below cloud level yeah it was

3918
02:33:53,270 --> 02:33:49,920
below cloud level

3919
02:33:55,349 --> 02:33:53,280
it seemed to be very close

3920
02:33:56,790 --> 02:33:55,359
to the ground because it's ginormous

3921
02:34:00,070 --> 02:33:56,800
it's huge

3922
02:34:05,270 --> 02:34:00,080
it's bigger than the super size walmart

3923
02:34:09,270 --> 02:34:08,309
so are we talking like uh independence

3924
02:34:11,830 --> 02:34:09,280
day big

3925
02:34:13,110 --> 02:34:11,840
or are we talking kind of terry lovelace

3926
02:34:14,950 --> 02:34:13,120
like

3927
02:34:16,710 --> 02:34:14,960
because he also he also terry lovelace

3928
02:34:21,910 --> 02:34:16,720
also says walmart science

3929
02:34:25,750 --> 02:34:23,990
the other day i've never seen any of the

3930
02:34:27,349 --> 02:34:25,760
ufo movies like what you just said

3931
02:34:28,830 --> 02:34:27,359
independence day i've never seen any of

3932
02:34:37,590 --> 02:34:28,840
that so i don't know

3933
02:34:41,110 --> 02:34:39,110
i only say that because it's something

3934
02:34:43,750 --> 02:34:41,120
familiar that we've all been into

3935
02:34:44,870 --> 02:34:43,760
and we know kind of roughly how big i'm

3936
02:34:46,790 --> 02:34:44,880
not saying that

3937
02:34:48,389 --> 02:34:46,800
you know i mean there's a lot there's so

3938
02:34:51,429 --> 02:34:48,399
many people out there that compare

3939
02:34:52,630 --> 02:34:51,439
ufos to uh you know buildings or

3940
02:34:54,469 --> 02:34:52,640
whatever but it's like something

3941
02:34:56,389 --> 02:34:54,479
familiar so like you've

3942
02:34:57,910 --> 02:34:56,399
walked through the hallways and you kind

3943
02:34:59,270 --> 02:34:57,920
of know the circumference and what it

3944
02:35:03,590 --> 02:34:59,280
would look like in the sky

3945
02:35:10,389 --> 02:35:06,630
it was so big that alta's head flipped

3946
02:35:13,110 --> 02:35:10,399
sideways i caught it for a second

3947
02:35:13,990 --> 02:35:13,120
and it didn't register i only know

3948
02:35:17,670 --> 02:35:14,000
internally

3949
02:35:19,429 --> 02:35:17,680
that can't exist yeah well i mean so i

3950
02:35:21,030 --> 02:35:19,439
turn to chad while he's driving

3951
02:35:23,830 --> 02:35:21,040
navigating that traffic

3952
02:35:24,230 --> 02:35:23,840
and he's taking this in i can't look at

3953
02:35:30,389 --> 02:35:24,240
it

3954
02:35:31,590 --> 02:35:30,399
and i stared at chad just a second chad

3955
02:35:34,630 --> 02:35:31,600
and then you take it over

3956
02:35:35,990 --> 02:35:34,640
i'm staring at chad and i am begging him

3957
02:35:37,910 --> 02:35:36,000
mentally to tell me

3958
02:35:40,070 --> 02:35:37,920
that that's not happening that that is

3959
02:35:43,750 --> 02:35:40,080
not happening but i can see in his face

3960
02:35:46,870 --> 02:35:43,760
i looked at her and she looked at me

3961
02:35:50,389 --> 02:35:46,880
and we both like oh

3962
02:35:53,590 --> 02:35:50,399
damn we both see it

3963
02:35:57,830 --> 02:35:53,600
that just didn't

3964
02:36:01,030 --> 02:35:57,840
you know i mean it was just like beyond

3965
02:36:04,389 --> 02:36:01,040
comprehension yeah yeah

3966
02:36:07,429 --> 02:36:04,399
so i looked at it and

3967
02:36:10,469 --> 02:36:07,439
we both looked at it and

3968
02:36:13,830 --> 02:36:10,479
my my my thought exactly uh

3969
02:36:19,270 --> 02:36:13,840
just what what alton said okay

3970
02:36:21,750 --> 02:36:19,280
if we don't if we don't acknowledge it

3971
02:36:22,790 --> 02:36:21,760
you just said that it doesn't exist it

3972
02:36:25,590 --> 02:36:22,800
doesn't exist

3973
02:36:26,550 --> 02:36:25,600
yeah if we acknowledge it they don't

3974
02:36:31,750 --> 02:36:26,560
know

3975
02:36:32,950 --> 02:36:31,760
right well it's like it's almost like

3976
02:36:36,230 --> 02:36:32,960
you're having this fear

3977
02:36:39,270 --> 02:36:36,240
or maybe uh understanding that

3978
02:36:41,349 --> 02:36:39,280
that this whatever it is is kind of

3979
02:36:42,710 --> 02:36:41,359
it knows what you're thinking and you

3980
02:36:46,150 --> 02:36:42,720
there's some power in that

3981
02:36:47,349 --> 02:36:46,160
almost like right maybe if you believe

3982
02:36:49,830 --> 02:36:47,359
that it's not there

3983
02:36:51,270 --> 02:36:49,840
it's almost like like late at night you

3984
02:36:53,349 --> 02:36:51,280
get scared or spooked you hear

3985
02:36:54,469 --> 02:36:53,359
you know the house creaking it's like

3986
02:36:57,110 --> 02:36:54,479
[\h__\h] that's no

3987
02:36:59,190 --> 02:36:57,120
no no it's not it's not a ghost it's not

3988
02:37:01,349 --> 02:36:59,200
a ufo i think everybody does that

3989
02:37:02,870 --> 02:37:01,359
like oh i i okay for a second when i was

3990
02:37:04,309 --> 02:37:02,880
walking through that dark ass hallway i

3991
02:37:07,349 --> 02:37:04,319
thought i saw

3992
02:37:08,550 --> 02:37:07,359
some creature and then you and then you

3993
02:37:10,950 --> 02:37:08,560
tell yourself

3994
02:37:12,710 --> 02:37:10,960
it's not there and then you forget any

3995
02:37:15,670 --> 02:37:12,720
and then you forget about it i think

3996
02:37:17,990 --> 02:37:15,680
most people do that and it takes a

3997
02:37:20,150 --> 02:37:18,000
certain kind of curious mind to

3998
02:37:22,150 --> 02:37:20,160
to go into that and like really

3999
02:37:23,510 --> 02:37:22,160
speculate but when you're in that moment

4000
02:37:25,110 --> 02:37:23,520
sorry i got off track there but when

4001
02:37:26,150 --> 02:37:25,120
you're in that moment and you try to

4002
02:37:28,389 --> 02:37:26,160
make that

4003
02:37:30,070 --> 02:37:28,399
happen you try to trick your brain into

4004
02:37:32,389 --> 02:37:30,080
thinking it's not there

4005
02:37:33,270 --> 02:37:32,399
that's gotta be a surreal kind of moment

4006
02:37:35,670 --> 02:37:33,280
and and

4007
02:37:37,670 --> 02:37:35,680
yeah so like were there any other uh

4008
02:37:41,110 --> 02:37:37,680
observers that you uh that you

4009
02:37:45,030 --> 02:37:41,120
remember that that also saw it

4010
02:37:48,550 --> 02:37:45,040
right no uh as far as like

4011
02:37:51,750 --> 02:37:48,560
when we were driving there was no

4012
02:37:55,429 --> 02:37:51,760
because if i were there was nobody like

4013
02:37:57,510 --> 02:37:55,439
pointing in the sky there was no like

4014
02:37:59,270 --> 02:37:57,520
chaos out on the street because there

4015
02:38:05,910 --> 02:37:59,280
was traffic

4016
02:38:08,150 --> 02:38:05,920
yeah you know right at the i mean

4017
02:38:09,110 --> 02:38:08,160
there's like the walmart shopping center

4018
02:38:12,070 --> 02:38:09,120
on one side

4019
02:38:15,030 --> 02:38:12,080
the another shopping center on the other

4020
02:38:18,070 --> 02:38:15,040
side with like the kmart or

4021
02:38:20,710 --> 02:38:18,080
in shoe stores and all that i

4022
02:38:21,429 --> 02:38:20,720
never remember anybody like pulling over

4023
02:38:23,429 --> 02:38:21,439
and like

4024
02:38:24,469 --> 02:38:23,439
looking up in the sky or anything like

4025
02:38:28,790 --> 02:38:24,479
that yeah

4026
02:38:32,150 --> 02:38:28,800
but but the next day

4027
02:38:32,870 --> 02:38:32,160
i don't know we we we don't we're not

4028
02:38:35,510 --> 02:38:32,880
quite sure

4029
02:38:38,469 --> 02:38:35,520
we're pretty sure that this was like a

4030
02:38:42,309 --> 02:38:38,479
local radio station

4031
02:38:45,510 --> 02:38:42,319
that accounted like

4032
02:38:48,710 --> 02:38:45,520
uh somebody reporting

4033
02:38:49,910 --> 02:38:48,720
strange lights in the sky okay so at

4034
02:38:53,270 --> 02:38:49,920
least somebody

4035
02:38:56,070 --> 02:38:53,280
said something about it uh so okay

4036
02:38:57,030 --> 02:38:56,080
but it's such a weird like it's very

4037
02:39:00,790 --> 02:38:57,040
like

4038
02:39:02,070 --> 02:39:00,800
another eyewitness

4039
02:39:04,230 --> 02:39:02,080
but you know when you get into this

4040
02:39:05,670 --> 02:39:04,240
stuff and and people talk about how you

4041
02:39:08,469 --> 02:39:05,680
know

4042
02:39:09,349 --> 02:39:08,479
some people it can be right there and

4043
02:39:12,630 --> 02:39:09,359
you will see it

4044
02:39:15,670 --> 02:39:12,640
and other people won't it's almost like

4045
02:39:19,830 --> 02:39:15,680
it's only available for certain people

4046
02:39:22,950 --> 02:39:19,840
the fact that you saw this massive thing

4047
02:39:24,630 --> 02:39:22,960
is like strange that the radio station

4048
02:39:26,710 --> 02:39:24,640
would say yeah there were some strange

4049
02:39:28,870 --> 02:39:26,720
lights in the sky yeah you know it's

4050
02:39:32,469 --> 02:39:28,880
almost like you got the full

4051
02:39:34,950 --> 02:39:32,479
show while these other people

4052
02:39:36,070 --> 02:39:34,960
caught these lights right you know i'm

4053
02:39:39,270 --> 02:39:36,080
curious okay

4054
02:39:42,870 --> 02:39:39,280
can you describe it yeah exactly

4055
02:39:46,309 --> 02:39:42,880
yeah okay so it was almost like

4056
02:39:49,590 --> 02:39:46,319
not a kind of trapezoid traffic

4057
02:39:53,910 --> 02:39:49,600
shape wow kind of a long

4058
02:39:54,389 --> 02:39:53,920
rectangle but shorter on one side than

4059
02:39:58,070 --> 02:39:54,399
the other

4060
02:40:01,510 --> 02:39:58,080
shorter in the back like uh like uh like

4061
02:40:04,150 --> 02:40:01,520
tapered one end wider than the other

4062
02:40:08,760 --> 02:40:04,160
almost like a pyramid but like the tip

4063
02:40:08,770 --> 02:40:17,349
[Music]

4064
02:40:22,309 --> 02:40:20,389
it had like three or four lights in the

4065
02:40:25,990 --> 02:40:22,319
back

4066
02:40:31,750 --> 02:40:26,000
two or three lights in the front and

4067
02:40:37,510 --> 02:40:34,870
um silent sigh yeah

4068
02:40:38,389 --> 02:40:37,520
no sound and baby don't move i remember

4069
02:40:41,830 --> 02:40:38,399
oh

4070
02:40:44,150 --> 02:40:41,840
that's so interesting moving very

4071
02:40:45,670 --> 02:40:44,160
very if it was moving at all yeah if it

4072
02:40:49,030 --> 02:40:45,680
was moving at all

4073
02:40:52,550 --> 02:40:49,040
did you it was it

4074
02:40:55,670 --> 02:40:52,560
did you see any uh appendages or or

4075
02:40:56,710 --> 02:40:55,680
or pulls or any kind of things dangling

4076
02:40:58,870 --> 02:40:56,720
from

4077
02:41:00,389 --> 02:40:58,880
any of the sides downward or sideways or

4078
02:41:04,950 --> 02:41:00,399
anything like that

4079
02:41:11,510 --> 02:41:08,469
no it was like a a moving building

4080
02:41:13,190 --> 02:41:11,520
mm-hmm without a penalty is

4081
02:41:14,550 --> 02:41:13,200
with this only thing that he's

4082
02:41:25,750 --> 02:41:14,560
describing her

4083
02:41:29,269 --> 02:41:28,309
just something too big to be in that sky

4084
02:41:32,389 --> 02:41:29,279
yeah

4085
02:41:34,309 --> 02:41:32,399
of this uh there's the

4086
02:41:35,910 --> 02:41:34,319
the paint right like called vantablack

4087
02:41:38,550 --> 02:41:35,920
where when you

4088
02:41:39,990 --> 02:41:38,560
it it absorbs so much light that you

4089
02:41:42,550 --> 02:41:40,000
can't really tell

4090
02:41:44,630 --> 02:41:42,560
um right uh three-dimensional shapes

4091
02:41:46,550 --> 02:41:44,640
because there's no shadows to be had

4092
02:41:48,950 --> 02:41:46,560
right so what was it like that or were

4093
02:41:51,590 --> 02:41:48,960
you using like stealth technology type

4094
02:41:55,349 --> 02:41:51,600
stuff yeah yeah no it's very expensive

4095
02:41:57,030 --> 02:41:55,359
yeah uh but i mean yeah there's like

4096
02:41:57,510 --> 02:41:57,040
this dude that's trying to like recreate

4097
02:41:59,349 --> 02:41:57,520
it with

4098
02:42:01,030 --> 02:41:59,359
cheaper materials and it's like almost

4099
02:42:02,070 --> 02:42:01,040
there you could buy it like in spray

4100
02:42:03,830 --> 02:42:02,080
paint but

4101
02:42:06,469 --> 02:42:03,840
uh so what i'm asking is like could you

4102
02:42:09,830 --> 02:42:06,479
tell any edges or did it look like

4103
02:42:13,030 --> 02:42:09,840
a void no

4104
02:42:14,389 --> 02:42:13,040
no there was edges oh yeah yeah it was

4105
02:42:18,309 --> 02:42:14,399
fine

4106
02:42:20,389 --> 02:42:18,319
almost like a oh what are those um

4107
02:42:22,150 --> 02:42:20,399
i mean you said the the trapezoid shape

4108
02:42:23,510 --> 02:42:22,160
i get but i guess what i'm thinking of

4109
02:42:26,550 --> 02:42:23,520
is like a three-dimensional like was

4110
02:42:29,830 --> 02:42:26,560
there a lip or seam of any any type

4111
02:42:32,550 --> 02:42:29,840
oh yeah yeah you could i it could

4112
02:42:33,750 --> 02:42:32,560
if if i was gonna say it would have to

4113
02:42:37,429 --> 02:42:33,760
be like a

4114
02:42:42,150 --> 02:42:37,439
as far as like the width now it was

4115
02:42:42,160 --> 02:42:46,790
so is like

4116
02:42:53,030 --> 02:42:49,830
the length very big the

4117
02:42:55,030 --> 02:42:53,040
width would be like a two

4118
02:42:56,870 --> 02:42:55,040
or probably a three or four story

4119
02:42:58,870 --> 02:42:56,880
building wow that is

4120
02:43:00,230 --> 02:42:58,880
pretty big that's massive dude yeah oh

4121
02:43:02,550 --> 02:43:00,240
so what you're doing like

4122
02:43:04,469 --> 02:43:02,560
thickness when you said a pyramid you

4123
02:43:05,670 --> 02:43:04,479
meant three-dimensional pyramid but like

4124
02:43:08,870 --> 02:43:05,680
stretched out

4125
02:43:11,190 --> 02:43:08,880
is that yeah okay okay all right one end

4126
02:43:13,190 --> 02:43:11,200
thinner at the other oh [\h__\h] that's cool

4127
02:43:16,230 --> 02:43:13,200
yeah it's like

4128
02:43:19,269 --> 02:43:16,240
yeah it was very

4129
02:43:22,550 --> 02:43:19,279
flat on the front very flat on the back

4130
02:43:25,830 --> 02:43:22,560
but then kind of you know

4131
02:43:28,870 --> 02:43:25,840
tapered in like a pyramid kind of thing

4132
02:43:31,030 --> 02:43:28,880
dude that's super cool i love that i

4133
02:43:33,510 --> 02:43:31,040
just love hearing details

4134
02:43:35,750 --> 02:43:33,520
of probably three or four stories

4135
02:43:39,590 --> 02:43:35,760
thickness

4136
02:43:41,990 --> 02:43:39,600
then yeah and it was floating

4137
02:43:42,630 --> 02:43:42,000
no noise and no one seemed to be paying

4138
02:43:44,950 --> 02:43:42,640
attention i

4139
02:43:45,990 --> 02:43:44,960
kind of want to go back and like rehash

4140
02:43:48,150 --> 02:43:46,000
what joe said

4141
02:43:49,110 --> 02:43:48,160
because i love that idea that it

4142
02:43:53,269 --> 02:43:49,120
sometimes these

4143
02:43:54,710 --> 02:43:53,279
these uh experiences it feels like

4144
02:43:56,870 --> 02:43:54,720
from what we've heard and the people

4145
02:43:57,830 --> 02:43:56,880
that we've talked to which is really not

4146
02:43:59,670 --> 02:43:57,840
that much but

4147
02:44:01,110 --> 02:43:59,680
we've had some really great stories

4148
02:44:04,389 --> 02:44:01,120
since we've started this podcast

4149
02:44:06,870 --> 02:44:04,399
absolutely and uh amazing people

4150
02:44:07,750 --> 02:44:06,880
smart you know intelligent people like

4151
02:44:10,070 --> 02:44:07,760
yourselves

4152
02:44:10,950 --> 02:44:10,080
you know try to their best to describe

4153
02:44:13,990 --> 02:44:10,960
this thing

4154
02:44:15,429 --> 02:44:14,000
and each time it's it always it always

4155
02:44:17,110 --> 02:44:15,439
seems to be like yeah there were other

4156
02:44:17,830 --> 02:44:17,120
people around but like no one seemed to

4157
02:44:20,630 --> 02:44:17,840
pay

4158
02:44:21,030 --> 02:44:20,640
no one seemed to care yeah it seems like

4159
02:44:23,750 --> 02:44:21,040
like

4160
02:44:26,469 --> 02:44:23,760
they if they choose who's allowed what

4161
02:44:28,469 --> 02:44:26,479
what frequency you're allowed to

4162
02:44:30,950 --> 02:44:28,479
to see it maybe it's not physically see

4163
02:44:33,750 --> 02:44:30,960
it or maybe it's just comprehend it or

4164
02:44:35,190 --> 02:44:33,760
or record it in your your short-term

4165
02:44:36,790 --> 02:44:35,200
memory maybe there's some kind of

4166
02:44:38,309 --> 02:44:36,800
frequency that they're pulsing out that

4167
02:44:41,429 --> 02:44:38,319
like it just doesn't work on some of

4168
02:44:45,910 --> 02:44:43,190
so we forget it immediately and we just

4169
02:44:46,550 --> 02:44:45,920
don't care about it i don't know yeah

4170
02:44:49,830 --> 02:44:46,560
right

4171
02:44:51,750 --> 02:44:49,840
i know that in my case i can't offer any

4172
02:44:53,990 --> 02:44:51,760
description any more than the fact that

4173
02:44:57,269 --> 02:44:54,000
there was something in that sky that was

4174
02:44:59,190 --> 02:44:57,279
the size of the sky and it

4175
02:45:00,710 --> 02:44:59,200
it mortified me to the point it put me

4176
02:45:02,469 --> 02:45:00,720
in shock to the point of where i turned

4177
02:45:03,590 --> 02:45:02,479
my head away and i could not and i would

4178
02:45:05,990 --> 02:45:03,600
not look back

4179
02:45:07,110 --> 02:45:06,000
nor would i acknowledge it nor would i

4180
02:45:10,309 --> 02:45:07,120
accept it

4181
02:45:13,429 --> 02:45:10,319
and and we probably would have never

4182
02:45:15,910 --> 02:45:13,439
talked about never unless until

4183
02:45:17,110 --> 02:45:15,920
we had other experiences and people

4184
02:45:19,269 --> 02:45:17,120
reported yes

4185
02:45:21,750 --> 02:45:19,279
and then because we didn't but others

4186
02:45:23,750 --> 02:45:21,760
did to confirm that what

4187
02:45:25,830 --> 02:45:23,760
i worked very hard to make up my mind

4188
02:45:29,030 --> 02:45:25,840
wasn't real or didn't exist

4189
02:45:31,269 --> 02:45:29,040
others saw right so that that sort of

4190
02:45:32,950 --> 02:45:31,279
knocked that one out of the park

4191
02:45:34,630 --> 02:45:32,960
right what's interesting is is that

4192
02:45:37,269 --> 02:45:34,640
you're not looking for validation

4193
02:45:39,030 --> 02:45:37,279
and in this time in your life i mean it

4194
02:45:40,630 --> 02:45:39,040
doesn't it doesn't uh

4195
02:45:42,630 --> 02:45:40,640
in in the story you're telling me now

4196
02:45:43,429 --> 02:45:42,640
it's it's you're not really wanting this

4197
02:45:46,950 --> 02:45:43,439
to be true

4198
02:45:51,429 --> 02:45:46,960
which no no

4199
02:45:58,070 --> 02:45:54,870
do you have pictures well uh i mean

4200
02:46:01,910 --> 02:45:58,080
well back in those days there was no

4201
02:46:05,030 --> 02:46:01,920
like but you're right what you're saying

4202
02:46:07,190 --> 02:46:05,040
on this experience this first experience

4203
02:46:08,790 --> 02:46:07,200
i wanted no acknowledgement of this i

4204
02:46:11,910 --> 02:46:08,800
wanted nothing to do with this

4205
02:46:12,790 --> 02:46:11,920
this was a non-event right and this was

4206
02:46:15,030 --> 02:46:12,800
just between

4207
02:46:16,950 --> 02:46:15,040
you guys and that's right right yeah and

4208
02:46:17,349 --> 02:46:16,960
it seems like it seems like people who

4209
02:46:20,309 --> 02:46:17,359
want

4210
02:46:22,230 --> 02:46:20,319
nothing to do with it get messed with

4211
02:46:24,790 --> 02:46:22,240
way more than people who are like take

4212
02:46:27,670 --> 02:46:24,800
me please

4213
02:46:28,070 --> 02:46:27,680
those people never see anything the

4214
02:46:31,990 --> 02:46:28,080
people

4215
02:46:36,830 --> 02:46:32,000
even care about it

4216
02:46:39,030 --> 02:46:36,840
they have the wildest experiences

4217
02:46:40,870 --> 02:46:39,040
and you know like we were telling you

4218
02:46:44,550 --> 02:46:40,880
about eric mitchell i mean

4219
02:46:47,030 --> 02:46:44,560
that guy was a a single dad with kids

4220
02:46:49,190 --> 02:46:47,040
fixing a water pump issue on his car and

4221
02:46:52,150 --> 02:46:49,200
then all of a sudden

4222
02:46:53,269 --> 02:46:52,160
boom he's an experiencer that's who he

4223
02:46:57,750 --> 02:46:53,279
is

4224
02:46:58,950 --> 02:46:57,760
story okay he has been public in the

4225
02:47:01,429 --> 02:46:58,960
past

4226
02:47:03,349 --> 02:47:01,439
yeah he's a point where oh yeah he's

4227
02:47:05,990 --> 02:47:03,359
amazing beyond amazing and i thought

4228
02:47:07,990 --> 02:47:06,000
amazing things would happen with them uh

4229
02:47:09,190 --> 02:47:08,000
the city and the whatever but i've

4230
02:47:11,670 --> 02:47:09,200
learned the community

4231
02:47:13,830 --> 02:47:11,680
such so it doesn't surprise me at all

4232
02:47:16,389 --> 02:47:13,840
he's very quiet about it and yeah that's

4233
02:47:17,830 --> 02:47:16,399
that's the guy i was i was saying i

4234
02:47:18,150 --> 02:47:17,840
would like to introduce you all to him

4235
02:47:20,550 --> 02:47:18,160
because

4236
02:47:22,870 --> 02:47:20,560
you know that'll just be amazing yeah

4237
02:47:24,790 --> 02:47:22,880
i'm familiar with that story

4238
02:47:25,990 --> 02:47:24,800
because i mean the thing that drove us

4239
02:47:29,269 --> 02:47:26,000
to him

4240
02:47:32,150 --> 02:47:29,279
was the fact that he was like hey

4241
02:47:32,950 --> 02:47:32,160
you know i'm just here to help some

4242
02:47:36,870 --> 02:47:32,960
people

4243
02:47:39,910 --> 02:47:36,880
and we're like dude i i want to help you

4244
02:47:42,070 --> 02:47:39,920
help people because these experiences

4245
02:47:42,950 --> 02:47:42,080
and the things that people go through

4246
02:47:45,990 --> 02:47:42,960
are so

4247
02:47:49,190 --> 02:47:46,000
just traumatizing

4248
02:47:52,870 --> 02:47:49,200
and trivial that um

4249
02:47:54,950 --> 02:47:52,880
if you have no outlet it's very easy to

4250
02:47:58,630 --> 02:47:54,960
see why you would have this

4251
02:48:01,349 --> 02:47:58,640
this you know feeling of like i'm going

4252
02:48:02,469 --> 02:48:01,359
crazy but you're not you're not the only

4253
02:48:06,389 --> 02:48:02,479
one

4254
02:48:08,309 --> 02:48:06,399
no not at all so many of us

4255
02:48:10,630 --> 02:48:08,319
absolutely absolutely we kind of got

4256
02:48:12,950 --> 02:48:10,640
sidetracked there yeah no

4257
02:48:13,830 --> 02:48:12,960
i'm i mean let's keep going now i know

4258
02:48:15,910 --> 02:48:13,840
who he is

4259
02:48:18,389 --> 02:48:15,920
i'm happy that that kind of circled back

4260
02:48:24,230 --> 02:48:21,990
so that's our first uh to me i

4261
02:48:26,630 --> 02:48:24,240
so desired it to be a non-event that we

4262
02:48:28,309 --> 02:48:26,640
discover apparently is a true event

4263
02:48:31,349 --> 02:48:28,319
because others reported it

4264
02:48:33,030 --> 02:48:31,359
right and so that's that solidified but

4265
02:48:34,870 --> 02:48:33,040
we weren't interested in

4266
02:48:36,389 --> 02:48:34,880
being solidified as you said you hit

4267
02:48:38,230 --> 02:48:36,399
that right on the

4268
02:48:39,750 --> 02:48:38,240
on the point if we had no interest we're

4269
02:48:41,429 --> 02:48:39,760
just trying to get on with life we're

4270
02:48:42,870 --> 02:48:41,439
just trying to have a life we're trying

4271
02:48:47,269 --> 02:48:42,880
to just get on with

4272
02:48:49,110 --> 02:48:47,279
so in no time after that experience

4273
02:48:50,950 --> 02:48:49,120
again if you got questions we love the

4274
02:48:52,230 --> 02:48:50,960
questions because it so helps us with

4275
02:48:54,790 --> 02:48:52,240
recall also

4276
02:48:56,550 --> 02:48:54,800
but if i i can't offer any more about

4277
02:48:59,110 --> 02:48:56,560
that experience because

4278
02:49:00,469 --> 02:48:59,120
i chose to oh you know just going

4279
02:49:03,110 --> 02:49:00,479
unconscious at the moment

4280
02:49:05,429 --> 02:49:03,120
yeah so and chat has given you pretty

4281
02:49:07,110 --> 02:49:05,439
much the best that he could as far as

4282
02:49:09,110 --> 02:49:07,120
what he was able to deal with while he's

4283
02:49:09,830 --> 02:49:09,120
still driving and navigating traffic and

4284
02:49:13,349 --> 02:49:09,840
what have you

4285
02:49:16,309 --> 02:49:13,359
yeah right yeah no so after this

4286
02:49:17,349 --> 02:49:16,319
within no time it feels to me i'm not

4287
02:49:19,429 --> 02:49:17,359
good with time but

4288
02:49:21,030 --> 02:49:19,439
it seems like like in a minute we made a

4289
02:49:22,150 --> 02:49:21,040
decision we're moving to the french

4290
02:49:23,750 --> 02:49:22,160
quarter

4291
02:49:25,670 --> 02:49:23,760
we're not we're not going to stay here

4292
02:49:29,190 --> 02:49:25,680
any longer we're moving

4293
02:49:31,349 --> 02:49:29,200
yeah so off we try

4294
02:49:32,710 --> 02:49:31,359
we move to the french quarter we move

4295
02:49:35,750 --> 02:49:32,720
right up into it

4296
02:49:36,550 --> 02:49:35,760
and uh well we wanted to be in it

4297
02:49:38,710 --> 02:49:36,560
because that's

4298
02:49:40,389 --> 02:49:38,720
the secret of living in the quarter to

4299
02:49:44,309 --> 02:49:40,399
be in the heart of

4300
02:49:45,269 --> 02:49:44,319
well we also very quickly it's extremely

4301
02:49:48,550 --> 02:49:45,279
expensive

4302
02:49:49,830 --> 02:49:48,560
yes and we didn't have money we didn't

4303
02:49:53,030 --> 02:49:49,840
even have jobs and

4304
02:49:55,990 --> 02:49:53,040
not only that it's not who you know

4305
02:49:56,309 --> 02:49:56,000
is not what you know but who you know oh

4306
02:49:59,269 --> 02:49:56,319
yeah

4307
02:50:01,269 --> 02:49:59,279
to get it oh to get even like be

4308
02:50:04,309 --> 02:50:01,279
considered to

4309
02:50:06,950 --> 02:50:04,319
get an apartment at all yeah well

4310
02:50:07,990 --> 02:50:06,960
for the most part or you've got right

4311
02:50:10,870 --> 02:50:08,000
you've got to have references

4312
02:50:11,510 --> 02:50:10,880
out the wazoo along with all the cats i

4313
02:50:13,750 --> 02:50:11,520
believe that

4314
02:50:14,870 --> 02:50:13,760
because it's so small the area that's

4315
02:50:16,870 --> 02:50:14,880
desirable it's like

4316
02:50:18,630 --> 02:50:16,880
man it's almost like you got to be in

4317
02:50:21,510 --> 02:50:18,640
some sort of club or

4318
02:50:22,230 --> 02:50:21,520
know somebody that's right we knew no

4319
02:50:24,550 --> 02:50:22,240
one

4320
02:50:26,150 --> 02:50:24,560
and we're nobody and we you know again

4321
02:50:27,910 --> 02:50:26,160
not even jobs we're going to move to the

4322
02:50:29,429 --> 02:50:27,920
quarter we're going to get jobs we're

4323
02:50:32,150 --> 02:50:29,439
going to get on with life let's have a

4324
02:50:33,750 --> 02:50:32,160
party and so it's why we never had kids

4325
02:50:35,190 --> 02:50:33,760
we didn't want to answer to anybody

4326
02:50:38,469 --> 02:50:35,200
about anything

4327
02:50:40,710 --> 02:50:38,479
we just wanted to get on with life so

4328
02:50:42,469 --> 02:50:40,720
we can't move into where we'd like to

4329
02:50:45,990 --> 02:50:42,479
because we can't afford to

4330
02:50:48,389 --> 02:50:46,000
what we can afford is the bordering

4331
02:50:50,230 --> 02:50:48,399
streets around the quarter it is the

4332
02:50:53,830 --> 02:50:50,240
quarter but it would be that

4333
02:50:55,510 --> 02:50:53,840
perimeter street the perimeters are

4334
02:50:57,269 --> 02:50:55,520
least expensive

4335
02:50:58,630 --> 02:50:57,279
they're the least desirable and they're

4336
02:51:01,190 --> 02:50:58,640
the least expensive

4337
02:51:02,469 --> 02:51:01,200
well that's where we land not only do we

4338
02:51:05,030 --> 02:51:02,479
land there

4339
02:51:06,710 --> 02:51:05,040
due to economics but again there's so

4340
02:51:07,429 --> 02:51:06,720
much more to this story than anything

4341
02:51:11,030 --> 02:51:07,439
human

4342
02:51:14,230 --> 02:51:11,040
or money or any of this

4343
02:51:17,990 --> 02:51:14,240
such as our first apartment is above

4344
02:51:20,230 --> 02:51:18,000
a voodoo temple a voodoo

4345
02:51:22,309 --> 02:51:20,240
the religion or the the practice of

4346
02:51:25,030 --> 02:51:22,319
magic because

4347
02:51:26,309 --> 02:51:25,040
because right is is the magic part and

4348
02:51:27,830 --> 02:51:26,319
voodoo is the religion

4349
02:51:29,510 --> 02:51:27,840
i just i just recently learned this and

4350
02:51:30,950 --> 02:51:29,520
i'm just like i'm trying to sound badass

4351
02:51:33,030 --> 02:51:30,960
right

4352
02:51:34,630 --> 02:51:33,040
i'll read now you say because we've

4353
02:51:37,750 --> 02:51:34,640
experienced it all

4354
02:51:40,550 --> 02:51:37,760
yeah so we move into this voodoo

4355
02:51:42,630 --> 02:51:40,560
apartment voodoo temple apartment this

4356
02:51:45,830 --> 02:51:42,640
voodoo temple

4357
02:51:48,389 --> 02:51:45,840
was considered the original

4358
02:51:50,630 --> 02:51:48,399
like the authentic oh wow and because

4359
02:51:53,750 --> 02:51:50,640
there's a lot of that going on there

4360
02:51:56,070 --> 02:51:53,760
so this this particular location those

4361
02:51:58,630 --> 02:51:56,080
buildings were built 300 years ago

4362
02:52:00,070 --> 02:51:58,640
that's what we moved into is a 300 year

4363
02:52:01,830 --> 02:52:00,080
old structure

4364
02:52:03,510 --> 02:52:01,840
it was right across the street from

4365
02:52:07,190 --> 02:52:03,520
louis armstrong park

4366
02:52:09,190 --> 02:52:07,200
oh wow yeah i mean

4367
02:52:11,190 --> 02:52:09,200
it used to be amazing and now by the

4368
02:52:13,670 --> 02:52:11,200
time we got there is the hood

4369
02:52:14,710 --> 02:52:13,680
it had turned into the hood yeah and

4370
02:52:17,750 --> 02:52:14,720
it's not a place

4371
02:52:20,469 --> 02:52:17,760
most people want to live well

4372
02:52:20,950 --> 02:52:20,479
we were too young and dumb to care we

4373
02:52:23,269 --> 02:52:20,960
just

4374
02:52:24,870 --> 02:52:23,279
what the hey i'm an indian you're into

4375
02:52:27,510 --> 02:52:24,880
drumming my mother was a

4376
02:52:29,510 --> 02:52:27,520
drum maker yeah we got this all worked

4377
02:52:33,190 --> 02:52:29,520
out i've been there

4378
02:52:35,510 --> 02:52:33,200
yeah so the voodoo priestess

4379
02:52:36,230 --> 02:52:35,520
she took a fancy to us because she found

4380
02:52:38,309 --> 02:52:36,240
out

4381
02:52:39,750 --> 02:52:38,319
you can't tell necessarily as i say to

4382
02:52:40,710 --> 02:52:39,760
necessarily look at me that i'm an

4383
02:52:43,830 --> 02:52:40,720
indian girl

4384
02:52:46,790 --> 02:52:43,840
but i have all my regalia she saw that

4385
02:52:48,550 --> 02:52:46,800
and she went ka-ching ka ching ka-ching

4386
02:52:51,510 --> 02:52:48,560
because voodoo

4387
02:52:52,389 --> 02:52:51,520
love indians and indians love voodoo

4388
02:52:55,429 --> 02:52:52,399
yeah and

4389
02:52:57,190 --> 02:52:55,439
cool she she saw it as dollar signs this

4390
02:52:58,389 --> 02:52:57,200
woman is on television every time you

4391
02:53:01,030 --> 02:52:58,399
turn your tv on

4392
02:53:02,790 --> 02:53:01,040
this is who you generally will see being

4393
02:53:03,269 --> 02:53:02,800
interviewed or dealt with in the french

4394
02:53:05,990 --> 02:53:03,279
quarter

4395
02:53:07,590 --> 02:53:06,000
it wasn't miss cleo was it you know it

4396
02:53:11,910 --> 02:53:07,600
wouldn't happen

4397
02:53:14,230 --> 02:53:11,920
okay okay so this one

4398
02:53:15,590 --> 02:53:14,240
uh took a fancy test in the beginning

4399
02:53:17,990 --> 02:53:15,600
because i as i said to you

4400
02:53:19,349 --> 02:53:18,000
just bottom line is i there was no doubt

4401
02:53:20,630 --> 02:53:19,359
to me she was gonna make a whole lot of

4402
02:53:24,389 --> 02:53:20,640
money off of me

4403
02:53:27,750 --> 02:53:24,399
wow combining me and her and whatever

4404
02:53:30,710 --> 02:53:27,760
no no no no voodoo hoodoo i

4405
02:53:32,469 --> 02:53:30,720
ain't interested more power to you

4406
02:53:33,110 --> 02:53:32,479
that's your belief system you're

4407
02:53:35,190 --> 02:53:33,120
whatever

4408
02:53:36,550 --> 02:53:35,200
i honor that but that's not us and we're

4409
02:53:38,950 --> 02:53:36,560
not interested

4410
02:53:40,150 --> 02:53:38,960
okay and so she didn't take kindly to

4411
02:53:42,950 --> 02:53:40,160
that at all

4412
02:53:44,950 --> 02:53:42,960
she didn't take kindly to that now our

4413
02:53:46,150 --> 02:53:44,960
first experience is in our apartment

4414
02:53:49,590 --> 02:53:46,160
we're on a second floor

4415
02:53:51,030 --> 02:53:49,600
above the temple the well the temple is

4416
02:53:53,269 --> 02:53:51,040
kind of below us and

4417
02:53:54,630 --> 02:53:53,279
over a little bit and right below us was

4418
02:53:57,429 --> 02:53:54,640
had been turned into uh

4419
02:53:58,070 --> 02:53:57,439
we were like catty corner sorry chad

4420
02:53:59,910 --> 02:53:58,080
what

4421
02:54:01,429 --> 02:53:59,920
it was a four plex and we were catty

4422
02:54:04,309 --> 02:54:01,439
corner from

4423
02:54:05,670 --> 02:54:04,319
the temple oh right on yeah nice it's

4424
02:54:08,950 --> 02:54:05,680
not like directly

4425
02:54:09,510 --> 02:54:08,960
like above the synergy of energy right

4426
02:54:11,750 --> 02:54:09,520
like

4427
02:54:13,110 --> 02:54:11,760
it was kind of you were away from the

4428
02:54:16,070 --> 02:54:13,120
blast

4429
02:54:16,550 --> 02:54:16,080
of energy going on but we had we had

4430
02:54:17,910 --> 02:54:16,560
probably

4431
02:54:19,750 --> 02:54:17,920
at the time one of the largest

4432
02:54:22,870 --> 02:54:19,760
courtyards in the french quarter

4433
02:54:24,389 --> 02:54:22,880
and that courtyard was used for voodoo

4434
02:54:27,670 --> 02:54:24,399
practice and ritual

4435
02:54:30,950 --> 02:54:27,680
cool so went on underneath our windows

4436
02:54:34,790 --> 02:54:30,960
our windows filmed i believe

4437
02:54:37,510 --> 02:54:34,800
a serpent in the rainbow

4438
02:54:38,630 --> 02:54:37,520
an old voodoo movie of the 80s or 90s

4439
02:54:41,429 --> 02:54:38,640
just filmed

4440
02:54:43,830 --> 02:54:41,439
eric roberts we watched eric roberts if

4441
02:54:47,349 --> 02:54:43,840
you know he is julia robert's brother

4442
02:54:48,870 --> 02:54:47,359
yeah he made movies there

4443
02:54:50,630 --> 02:54:48,880
we're not interested in celebrity i'm

4444
02:54:53,190 --> 02:54:50,640
not sure why

4445
02:54:54,469 --> 02:54:53,200
no no it's not our gig but there was a

4446
02:54:56,469 --> 02:54:54,479
lot going on in this

4447
02:54:59,269 --> 02:54:56,479
area i'm just trying to get the story

4448
02:55:02,389 --> 02:54:59,279
moved along about our experiences

4449
02:55:05,349 --> 02:55:02,399
so the courtyard

4450
02:55:06,870 --> 02:55:05,359
has got the voodoo priestess has got her

4451
02:55:09,830 --> 02:55:06,880
own quarters

4452
02:55:11,030 --> 02:55:09,840
her own building on one side of the

4453
02:55:13,830 --> 02:55:11,040
courtyard

4454
02:55:16,469 --> 02:55:13,840
detached from us and then on the other

4455
02:55:18,950 --> 02:55:16,479
side of the courtyard detached from us

4456
02:55:21,190 --> 02:55:18,960
used to be the slave quarters they had

4457
02:55:22,150 --> 02:55:21,200
been converted into tiny efficiency

4458
02:55:25,269 --> 02:55:22,160
apartments

4459
02:55:28,469 --> 02:55:25,279
i have to say quite adorable but those

4460
02:55:32,630 --> 02:55:28,479
buildings are authentic and those were

4461
02:55:36,309 --> 02:55:32,640
slave quarters now they're cute

4462
02:55:38,469 --> 02:55:36,319
and they got cute and so

4463
02:55:39,429 --> 02:55:38,479
as some of these experiences that we

4464
02:55:41,510 --> 02:55:39,439
were having

4465
02:55:43,510 --> 02:55:41,520
they started right from the jump the

4466
02:55:46,150 --> 02:55:43,520
minute we moved in

4467
02:55:47,670 --> 02:55:46,160
i used the word high strangeness for

4468
02:55:48,870 --> 02:55:47,680
anything that others would call

4469
02:55:50,630 --> 02:55:48,880
paranormal

4470
02:55:52,389 --> 02:55:50,640
i don't use those words i call

4471
02:55:54,870 --> 02:55:52,399
everything high strangeness

4472
02:55:56,230 --> 02:55:54,880
so i love that i love that yeah it's a

4473
02:55:59,110 --> 02:55:56,240
good blanket

4474
02:55:59,510 --> 02:55:59,120
statement it's not triggering right

4475
02:56:02,150 --> 02:55:59,520
right

4476
02:56:04,070 --> 02:56:02,160
exactly and so because i have a very

4477
02:56:05,830 --> 02:56:04,080
different take on all of this

4478
02:56:08,309 --> 02:56:05,840
very different than anybody i've heard

4479
02:56:10,710 --> 02:56:08,319
speak about having these experiences

4480
02:56:12,150 --> 02:56:10,720
my thoughts and feelings about all of

4481
02:56:13,830 --> 02:56:12,160
this vary

4482
02:56:16,150 --> 02:56:13,840
tremendously from anybody else i've

4483
02:56:18,150 --> 02:56:16,160
heard so i use the word heist

4484
02:56:19,510 --> 02:56:18,160
strangeness so the hysteresis started

4485
02:56:21,670 --> 02:56:19,520
immediately

4486
02:56:22,870 --> 02:56:21,680
particularly with chad and we'll have

4487
02:56:26,070 --> 02:56:22,880
chad share with you

4488
02:56:29,429 --> 02:56:26,080
my first experience okay

4489
02:56:31,670 --> 02:56:29,439
so we just move in we there's not

4490
02:56:32,550 --> 02:56:31,680
much furniture there we don't have yeah

4491
02:56:35,429 --> 02:56:32,560
we just started

4492
02:56:37,790 --> 02:56:35,439
we're sleeping yeah we're we're sleeping

4493
02:56:39,190 --> 02:56:37,800
on a very small bed

4494
02:56:44,550 --> 02:56:39,200
[Music]

4495
02:56:49,590 --> 02:56:44,560
and this is where we're laying there

4496
02:56:52,710 --> 02:56:49,600
all of a sudden i feel this

4497
02:56:55,750 --> 02:56:52,720
i you know honestly i feel

4498
02:56:59,670 --> 02:56:55,760
something right above my heart like

4499
02:57:00,150 --> 02:56:59,680
tickling me so immediately i'm thinking

4500
02:57:02,550 --> 02:57:00,160
it's a

4501
02:57:05,190 --> 02:57:02,560
you know a bug or something so i go up

4502
02:57:09,670 --> 02:57:05,200
and i scratch

4503
02:57:12,150 --> 02:57:09,680
and and this happens to me

4504
02:57:14,870 --> 02:57:12,160
three or four times five times

4505
02:57:18,469 --> 02:57:14,880
throughout the night

4506
02:57:21,670 --> 02:57:18,479
yeah my last memory is

4507
02:57:25,750 --> 02:57:21,680
i wake up immediately and i see this

4508
02:57:28,630 --> 02:57:25,760
very short-statured african-american or

4509
02:57:32,710 --> 02:57:31,750
man now i could only see him from his

4510
02:57:35,190 --> 02:57:32,720
waist up

4511
02:57:35,990 --> 02:57:35,200
from his waist down was kind of like a

4512
02:57:37,990 --> 02:57:36,000
misty

4513
02:57:40,309 --> 02:57:38,000
cloudy kind of thing and what he means

4514
02:57:40,630 --> 02:57:40,319
by seas this is this is floating above

4515
02:57:42,790 --> 02:57:40,640
him

4516
02:57:44,070 --> 02:57:42,800
parallel yeah it's parallel horizontal

4517
02:57:47,269 --> 02:57:44,080
above generally

4518
02:57:51,349 --> 02:57:47,279
above me right and

4519
02:57:54,309 --> 02:57:51,359
i see him take his finger and

4520
02:57:55,750 --> 02:57:54,319
tickle me right above my heart or right

4521
02:58:00,150 --> 02:57:55,760
around my heart area

4522
02:58:05,110 --> 02:58:00,160
what and

4523
02:58:07,910 --> 02:58:05,120
so well actually

4524
02:58:09,110 --> 02:58:07,920
i wake up the next morning and i've got

4525
02:58:12,070 --> 02:58:09,120
like this

4526
02:58:13,349 --> 02:58:12,080
i i've dug a couple of like inches off

4527
02:58:17,030 --> 02:58:13,359
of my skin

4528
02:58:18,950 --> 02:58:17,040
oh no whoa i worked i worked

4529
02:58:20,870 --> 02:58:18,960
i worked in the restaurant business but

4530
02:58:24,230 --> 02:58:20,880
i did like the morning

4531
02:58:26,230 --> 02:58:24,240
uh or breakfast lunch kind of

4532
02:58:27,429 --> 02:58:26,240
[\h__\h] he started off on the famous

4533
02:58:32,309 --> 02:58:27,439
bourbon yeah i was

4534
02:58:33,830 --> 02:58:32,319
i i i worked on uh in a club

4535
02:58:35,990 --> 02:58:33,840
oh i mean that's like some of the best

4536
02:58:39,349 --> 02:58:36,000
cuisine in the world oh absolutely

4537
02:58:44,469 --> 02:58:39,359
awesome right this

4538
02:58:48,389 --> 02:58:44,479
vision not a not a memory from a

4539
02:58:51,830 --> 02:58:48,399
dream or anything like this this

4540
02:58:55,590 --> 02:58:51,840
vision starts coming back to me

4541
02:58:58,870 --> 02:58:55,600
this person

4542
02:59:02,469 --> 02:58:58,880
or this cloudy

4543
02:59:05,590 --> 02:59:02,479
person starts tickling my

4544
02:59:06,790 --> 02:59:05,600
chest and i would go up and scratch now

4545
02:59:08,550 --> 02:59:06,800
if it was a bug

4546
02:59:10,550 --> 02:59:08,560
or something like that it would be in

4547
02:59:12,550 --> 02:59:10,560
different places of my body

4548
02:59:15,990 --> 02:59:12,560
right it wouldn't be in the same exact

4549
02:59:20,150 --> 02:59:16,000
spot yeah so i scratch and i scratch

4550
02:59:23,990 --> 02:59:20,160
so again i get back to work i start

4551
02:59:27,349 --> 02:59:24,000
you know piecing this together

4552
02:59:30,710 --> 02:59:27,359
i get home i

4553
02:59:36,790 --> 02:59:30,720
remembered this vision this

4554
02:59:40,070 --> 02:59:36,800
thing and how to be a native american

4555
02:59:43,269 --> 02:59:40,080
she's always had you know the burn

4556
02:59:45,670 --> 02:59:43,279
you know with the sweetgrass and the

4557
02:59:47,110 --> 02:59:45,680
sage and all of that stuff yeah yeah so

4558
02:59:49,510 --> 02:59:47,120
i get um for cleansing

4559
02:59:50,790 --> 02:59:49,520
i grab yeah i grab her thing and i'm

4560
02:59:53,349 --> 02:59:50,800
like hey

4561
03:00:02,710 --> 02:59:53,359
i don't know what he is smudging the

4562
03:00:06,070 --> 03:00:04,630
i'm like i don't know who you are i

4563
03:00:08,550 --> 03:00:06,080
don't know what you are

4564
03:00:09,349 --> 03:00:08,560
i'm like it's all cool you ain't gotta

4565
03:00:11,269 --> 03:00:09,359
leave

4566
03:00:12,710 --> 03:00:11,279
yeah i'm gonna paint this house we're

4567
03:00:16,150 --> 03:00:12,720
gonna clean it up and

4568
03:00:18,630 --> 03:00:16,160
you can stay just don't mess with me

4569
03:00:19,910 --> 03:00:18,640
don't mess with us see i love that vibe

4570
03:00:21,190 --> 03:00:19,920
i love that energy man

4571
03:00:23,030 --> 03:00:21,200
because i feel like that's the way the

4572
03:00:25,190 --> 03:00:23,040
best way to go about it is

4573
03:00:26,309 --> 03:00:25,200
nobody we're gonna have we're gonna have

4574
03:00:28,389 --> 03:00:26,319
a nice little

4575
03:00:29,750 --> 03:00:28,399
just leave us alone yeah just leave us a

4576
03:00:31,830 --> 03:00:29,760
like yeah just

4577
03:00:33,750 --> 03:00:31,840
don't mess with us you know i i think

4578
03:00:34,309 --> 03:00:33,760
about if you don't mind like i'm just

4579
03:00:36,790 --> 03:00:34,319
try

4580
03:00:38,070 --> 03:00:36,800
like this just brings me so much joy

4581
03:00:40,150 --> 03:00:38,080
talking about this subject

4582
03:00:41,510 --> 03:00:40,160
in particular because there's a lot that

4583
03:00:45,190 --> 03:00:41,520
i've learned over the past

4584
03:00:47,269 --> 03:00:45,200
couple years and and like spirituality

4585
03:00:48,710 --> 03:00:47,279
and like i used to be so like i didn't

4586
03:00:49,830 --> 03:00:48,720
know anything about it i used to be so

4587
03:00:51,990 --> 03:00:49,840
negative towards that like

4588
03:00:53,030 --> 03:00:52,000
ah that's all [\h__\h] i need i need

4589
03:00:54,950 --> 03:00:53,040
evidence but now

4590
03:00:57,429 --> 03:00:54,960
it's totally diff after speaking with

4591
03:01:00,070 --> 03:00:57,439
people like yourselves like

4592
03:01:00,710 --> 03:01:00,080
hearing actual you know people talking

4593
03:01:02,230 --> 03:01:00,720
about

4594
03:01:04,150 --> 03:01:02,240
these things it's opened my mind to a

4595
03:01:06,309 --> 03:01:04,160
lot of things and what i did

4596
03:01:07,190 --> 03:01:06,319
learn in the past couple years is is the

4597
03:01:10,070 --> 03:01:07,200
uh

4598
03:01:12,790 --> 03:01:10,080
the power of of bedrock and like

4599
03:01:14,950 --> 03:01:12,800
limestone and quartz and how

4600
03:01:15,830 --> 03:01:14,960
traumatic traumatic events can be

4601
03:01:19,429 --> 03:01:15,840
recorded

4602
03:01:21,750 --> 03:01:19,439
in the energy that resides in the the

4603
03:01:22,469 --> 03:01:21,760
the bedrock beneath and now now i'm

4604
03:01:24,790 --> 03:01:22,479
thinking as

4605
03:01:26,230 --> 03:01:24,800
you're telling the story like louisiana

4606
03:01:28,309 --> 03:01:26,240
itself in in uh

4607
03:01:31,190 --> 03:01:28,319
the french quarter it's it's pretty

4608
03:01:34,389 --> 03:01:31,200
pretty slushy right i mean they're the

4609
03:01:35,030 --> 03:01:34,399
you know man it's more than 300 years

4610
03:01:38,790 --> 03:01:35,040
old

4611
03:01:41,830 --> 03:01:38,800
it's below sea level level right there

4612
03:01:45,750 --> 03:01:41,840
on the water okay what the water

4613
03:01:47,429 --> 03:01:45,760
is like you know conductive so

4614
03:01:49,510 --> 03:01:47,439
i never thought about that yeah that's

4615
03:01:51,269 --> 03:01:49,520
why all the graves are above ground in

4616
03:01:54,150 --> 03:01:51,279
louisiana too right because

4617
03:01:55,830 --> 03:01:54,160
it's it's below sea level and yeah if

4618
03:01:56,469 --> 03:01:55,840
you bury somebody there they're going to

4619
03:01:59,710 --> 03:01:56,479
pop

4620
03:02:02,950 --> 03:01:59,720
back up you don't want that

4621
03:02:05,670 --> 03:02:02,960
yeah katrina was like

4622
03:02:07,110 --> 03:02:05,680
there were like koreans like it was

4623
03:02:09,670 --> 03:02:07,120
massive amounts

4624
03:02:10,710 --> 03:02:09,680
even even the uh the ones that were

4625
03:02:13,990 --> 03:02:10,720
above grave

4626
03:02:15,910 --> 03:02:14,000
had had trouble back then yeah so yeah

4627
03:02:17,110 --> 03:02:15,920
i guess my point was like wondering

4628
03:02:19,830 --> 03:02:17,120
where

4629
03:02:21,590 --> 03:02:19,840
i'm just i don't know just curious like

4630
03:02:22,950 --> 03:02:21,600
where this energy if it's not locked

4631
03:02:25,190 --> 03:02:22,960
into bedrock or

4632
03:02:26,469 --> 03:02:25,200
limestone or quartz like where is it is

4633
03:02:29,590 --> 03:02:26,479
it in the walls

4634
03:02:32,070 --> 03:02:29,600
is it in the wood of the building oh man

4635
03:02:32,790 --> 03:02:32,080
that would be yes yes all of the above

4636
03:02:35,429 --> 03:02:32,800
yeah i mean

4637
03:02:36,550 --> 03:02:35,439
it's in the building it's in the bricks

4638
03:02:39,670 --> 03:02:36,560
and uh

4639
03:02:42,790 --> 03:02:39,680
so chad then not long after this so

4640
03:02:46,150 --> 03:02:42,800
anyway yeah so about

4641
03:02:50,230 --> 03:02:46,160
a month later another couple moved

4642
03:02:52,150 --> 03:02:50,240
down below us and they had been married

4643
03:02:55,910 --> 03:02:52,160
by the voodoo priest

4644
03:02:59,830 --> 03:02:55,920
that had died like a month or two before

4645
03:03:03,030 --> 03:02:59,840
we moved into this part whoa

4646
03:03:04,389 --> 03:03:03,040
so apparently the voodoo priest and the

4647
03:03:06,950 --> 03:03:04,399
voodoo priestess

4648
03:03:10,389 --> 03:03:06,960
didn't like each other very well really

4649
03:03:15,110 --> 03:03:13,670
and we lived in his old apartment we

4650
03:03:18,550 --> 03:03:15,120
were in his apartment oh

4651
03:03:21,110 --> 03:03:18,560
[\h__\h] yeah okay snatch

4652
03:03:21,670 --> 03:03:21,120
actually actually just back up a little

4653
03:03:27,750 --> 03:03:21,680
bit

4654
03:03:29,429 --> 03:03:27,760
here here's our pictures of our wedding

4655
03:03:32,790 --> 03:03:29,439
of the princess

4656
03:03:35,910 --> 03:03:32,800
of the priest and

4657
03:03:36,550 --> 03:03:35,920
she starts showing me these pictures and

4658
03:03:39,510 --> 03:03:36,560
i'm like

4659
03:03:39,990 --> 03:03:39,520
wow this is the guy that i shot and then

4660
03:03:42,469 --> 03:03:40,000
i told

4661
03:03:43,750 --> 03:03:42,479
them the story that i just told you

4662
03:03:47,349 --> 03:03:43,760
about the voodoo priest

4663
03:03:50,469 --> 03:03:47,359
or about this image above me

4664
03:03:52,830 --> 03:03:50,479
and like i tell them that story and

4665
03:03:54,950 --> 03:03:52,840
and they go well that sounds right

4666
03:03:58,550 --> 03:03:54,960
because

4667
03:04:01,670 --> 03:03:58,560
he he was a trickster

4668
03:04:04,710 --> 03:04:01,680
and he would like

4669
03:04:07,110 --> 03:04:04,720
test you to see if you if he

4670
03:04:08,710 --> 03:04:07,120
if you were cool enough to be in his

4671
03:04:11,750 --> 03:04:08,720
face yeah you were

4672
03:04:13,030 --> 03:04:11,760
cool enough to be in his face he was

4673
03:04:14,389 --> 03:04:13,040
saying hey you got something on your she

4674
03:04:15,269 --> 03:04:14,399
got some mustard on your shirt that's

4675
03:04:17,030 --> 03:04:15,279
what he was doing

4676
03:04:19,110 --> 03:04:17,040
yeah right that's it right you try to

4677
03:04:22,040 --> 03:04:19,120
flick your nose man this dude was this

4678
03:04:27,670 --> 03:04:22,050
priest was from police

4679
03:04:33,990 --> 03:04:30,790
yeah he was like from belize he was like

4680
03:04:36,309 --> 03:04:34,000
the real deal yeah damn

4681
03:04:37,030 --> 03:04:36,319
that was chad's first experience in that

4682
03:04:38,870 --> 03:04:37,040
that was our

4683
03:04:40,550 --> 03:04:38,880
first and then not long after this

4684
03:04:43,349 --> 03:04:40,560
happened to chad

4685
03:04:44,550 --> 03:04:43,359
altas had my i had several experiences

4686
03:04:47,670 --> 03:04:44,560
but one in particular

4687
03:04:49,349 --> 03:04:47,680
is time shift a time shift because i

4688
03:04:51,750 --> 03:04:49,359
don't know how else to describe it

4689
03:04:52,630 --> 03:04:51,760
yeah i got a girlfriend that's going to

4690
03:04:54,870 --> 03:04:52,640
come over

4691
03:04:56,469 --> 03:04:54,880
little hottie girl i might add she was a

4692
03:04:58,950 --> 03:04:56,479
little hottie girl

4693
03:05:00,550 --> 03:04:58,960
who just didn't care about nothing she

4694
03:05:03,830 --> 03:05:00,560
was adorable

4695
03:05:06,469 --> 03:05:03,840
rolling skates and slips

4696
03:05:07,269 --> 03:05:06,479
very little of clothing and she didn't

4697
03:05:10,150 --> 03:05:07,279
have to

4698
03:05:11,269 --> 03:05:10,160
and she would rollerblade her way right

4699
03:05:13,110 --> 03:05:11,279
through the movie

4700
03:05:15,429 --> 03:05:13,120
operations that were taking place in our

4701
03:05:15,990 --> 03:05:15,439
courtyard we didn't like that too much

4702
03:05:17,429 --> 03:05:16,000
because

4703
03:05:19,110 --> 03:05:17,439
movies were being made there it didn't

4704
03:05:20,710 --> 03:05:19,120
happen a lot but when it did happen

4705
03:05:22,550 --> 03:05:20,720
they took over and we had a hard time

4706
03:05:25,590 --> 03:05:22,560
getting in and out of our apartment

4707
03:05:27,429 --> 03:05:25,600
oh i bet that junk and whatever

4708
03:05:28,870 --> 03:05:27,439
she's just like she was so adorable she

4709
03:05:30,550 --> 03:05:28,880
wouldn't she care she

4710
03:05:32,230 --> 03:05:30,560
put those roller blades on with hardly

4711
03:05:32,790 --> 03:05:32,240
no clothes on and she just woof right

4712
03:05:34,790 --> 03:05:32,800
through it

4713
03:05:36,389 --> 03:05:34,800
that's awesome well i know you don't

4714
03:05:37,830 --> 03:05:36,399
have any pictures of yourself but if you

4715
03:05:40,230 --> 03:05:37,840
have any pictures of your friend you're

4716
03:05:43,030 --> 03:05:40,240
more than welcome to send them all

4717
03:05:44,790 --> 03:05:43,040
i will do some digging for you all right

4718
03:05:46,309 --> 03:05:44,800
and you'll actually have a picture of me

4719
03:05:48,230 --> 03:05:46,319
and regalia because that's the only way

4720
03:05:48,950 --> 03:05:48,240
i would ever allow that there is one in

4721
03:05:51,750 --> 03:05:48,960
the book

4722
03:05:53,190 --> 03:05:51,760
that's so cool you at least have some

4723
03:05:56,070 --> 03:05:53,200
imagery of me but

4724
03:05:56,469 --> 03:05:56,080
awesome this little girl decides now

4725
03:05:59,510 --> 03:05:56,479
she's

4726
03:06:01,349 --> 03:05:59,520
20 something at the time i'm you know

4727
03:06:02,710 --> 03:06:01,359
15 years old or i'm the old chick but

4728
03:06:04,230 --> 03:06:02,720
you just wouldn't know that because i

4729
03:06:07,429 --> 03:06:04,240
just got no age to me

4730
03:06:10,070 --> 03:06:07,439
and you had ambrosia thank you

4731
03:06:10,950 --> 03:06:10,080
yeah and i had brochure you've described

4732
03:06:13,030 --> 03:06:10,960
you've explained

4733
03:06:14,150 --> 03:06:13,040
everything i got no more questions

4734
03:06:16,870 --> 03:06:14,160
that's very interesting

4735
03:06:17,510 --> 03:06:16,880
though that that you like if we kind of

4736
03:06:20,630 --> 03:06:17,520
tied this

4737
03:06:22,230 --> 03:06:20,640
your experience at the river to like pan

4738
03:06:25,269 --> 03:06:22,240
who is a trickster

4739
03:06:28,710 --> 03:06:25,279
and now we have and now we have chad who

4740
03:06:31,590 --> 03:06:28,720
met another trickster who is the exactly

4741
03:06:32,150 --> 03:06:31,600
that's very interesting there's more to

4742
03:06:35,510 --> 03:06:32,160
come

4743
03:06:36,389 --> 03:06:35,520
oh yeah well hey guys while we i know uh

4744
03:06:39,990 --> 03:06:36,399
you guys are

4745
03:06:42,870 --> 03:06:40,000
i before we start on a new uh uh

4746
03:06:44,550 --> 03:06:42,880
story i we're at three hour mark i know

4747
03:06:47,910 --> 03:06:44,560
we're all

4748
03:06:49,670 --> 03:06:47,920
i know you probably you know i think we

4749
03:06:51,910 --> 03:06:49,680
should do y'all want to reconvene next

4750
03:06:54,070 --> 03:06:51,920
week do you want to be back on next week

4751
03:06:55,190 --> 03:06:54,080
listen we love you all so if you'll have

4752
03:06:58,309 --> 03:06:55,200
us nothing would be

4753
03:07:00,389 --> 03:06:58,319
funner i would love that absolutely

4754
03:07:01,349 --> 03:07:00,399
because we'll get back on track and

4755
03:07:03,750 --> 03:07:01,359
we'll stay on track

4756
03:07:05,190 --> 03:07:03,760
no no no no no please don't i'm fine

4757
03:07:07,429 --> 03:07:05,200
with you staying off track

4758
03:07:08,469 --> 03:07:07,439
what we've noticed is at the three hour

4759
03:07:10,870 --> 03:07:08,479
mark people's

4760
03:07:12,790 --> 03:07:10,880
kind of start to tune out and i want

4761
03:07:14,950 --> 03:07:12,800
people to pay attention to your story

4762
03:07:17,830 --> 03:07:14,960
because this is freaking amazing

4763
03:07:18,790 --> 03:07:17,840
yes i love it guys we're getting ready

4764
03:07:20,630 --> 03:07:18,800
to go into the

4765
03:07:22,070 --> 03:07:20,640
uh the good stuff into the french

4766
03:07:23,349 --> 03:07:22,080
quarter oh well

4767
03:07:25,030 --> 03:07:23,359
if we've learned anything from game of

4768
03:07:26,389 --> 03:07:25,040
thrones you have to end the episode on a

4769
03:07:28,070 --> 03:07:26,399
cliffhanger

4770
03:07:29,510 --> 03:07:28,080
oh i love that i never saw game of

4771
03:07:30,309 --> 03:07:29,520
thrones either but i do love

4772
03:07:32,469 --> 03:07:30,319
cliffhangers

4773
03:07:34,070 --> 03:07:32,479
me either i've never seen so what you

4774
03:07:35,190 --> 03:07:34,080
guys should do is really quick it's just

4775
03:07:38,790 --> 03:07:35,200
a quick just one

4776
03:07:40,950 --> 03:07:38,800
sentence what it maybe just decide

4777
03:07:42,870 --> 03:07:40,960
what you're gonna pick back up on and i

4778
03:07:44,630 --> 03:07:42,880
don't know i'm just

4779
03:07:46,630 --> 03:07:44,640
you guys are such great storytellers in

4780
03:07:48,070 --> 03:07:46,640
one sentence describe maybe where we're

4781
03:07:51,110 --> 03:07:48,080
gonna pick back up that would be awesome

4782
03:07:55,030 --> 03:07:53,590
because i know you've got more stories i

4783
03:07:56,389 --> 03:07:55,040
mean i mean it doesn't have to be

4784
03:07:59,349 --> 03:07:56,399
something you know don't think too hard

4785
03:08:01,269 --> 03:07:59,359
on it but that was that was a fun idea

4786
03:08:01,830 --> 03:08:01,279
story i just started to share with you i

4787
03:08:06,389 --> 03:08:01,840
think is

4788
03:08:09,830 --> 03:08:06,399
very impressive you said time slip right

4789
03:08:12,150 --> 03:08:09,840
right time slip that involved

4790
03:08:14,950 --> 03:08:12,160
if i might add it was that apartment it

4791
03:08:18,389 --> 03:08:14,960
involved what i'm convinced were

4792
03:08:20,710 --> 03:08:18,399
female slaves from back in the day when

4793
03:08:24,150 --> 03:08:20,720
they lived on that property

4794
03:08:27,429 --> 03:08:24,160
and a female another female

4795
03:08:30,309 --> 03:08:27,439
that appeared caucasian but their her

4796
03:08:39,030 --> 03:08:30,319
appearance would have been what people

4797
03:08:43,910 --> 03:08:41,510
freaking love it you guys no i don't

4798
03:08:46,150 --> 03:08:43,920
want to end i don't want to

4799
03:08:48,070 --> 03:08:46,160
jesus i want to keep going mary is

4800
03:08:51,190 --> 03:08:48,080
calling you guys are

4801
03:08:53,269 --> 03:08:51,200
you guys are amazing i i've had such a

4802
03:08:57,030 --> 03:08:53,279
fun night you guys like this is

4803
03:08:59,030 --> 03:08:57,040
so entertaining like i i uh i'm

4804
03:09:00,389 --> 03:08:59,040
yeah i cannot wait till next week you

4805
03:09:03,190 --> 03:09:00,399
guys um

4806
03:09:04,870 --> 03:09:03,200
i mean we're i mean we're talking about

4807
03:09:07,030 --> 03:09:04,880
ufos we're talking about

4808
03:09:09,110 --> 03:09:07,040
entities we're talking about voodoo

4809
03:09:11,429 --> 03:09:09,120
voodoo we're talking about mind control

4810
03:09:13,269 --> 03:09:11,439
at a young age we're talking about so

4811
03:09:15,670 --> 03:09:13,279
many things that are relevant

4812
03:09:17,269 --> 03:09:15,680
that all and we've been saying this as

4813
03:09:19,910 --> 03:09:17,279
well i mean jacques valet

4814
03:09:21,670 --> 03:09:19,920
says that everything is connected right

4815
03:09:25,030 --> 03:09:21,680
right right

4816
03:09:27,349 --> 03:09:25,040
and the fact in the fact that you guys

4817
03:09:29,110 --> 03:09:27,359
have so many stories that span across

4818
03:09:30,550 --> 03:09:29,120
different areas and the synchronicities

4819
03:09:31,110 --> 03:09:30,560
that have happened in y'all's lives and

4820
03:09:33,110 --> 03:09:31,120
y'all are

4821
03:09:34,469 --> 03:09:33,120
together for a reason being able to tell

4822
03:09:37,910 --> 03:09:34,479
the story as you are now is

4823
03:09:40,469 --> 03:09:37,920
i think is a there's a reason why so i i

4824
03:09:41,990 --> 03:09:40,479
can't wait to hear the rest of it

4825
03:09:44,630 --> 03:09:42,000
if we may leave you with a little

4826
03:09:47,990 --> 03:09:44,640
homework oh please do

4827
03:09:51,349 --> 03:09:48,000
and the homework would be to look up

4828
03:09:55,429 --> 03:09:51,359
the uh zach

4829
03:09:58,870 --> 03:09:55,439
and addie zach and addie

4830
03:10:01,349 --> 03:09:58,880
story okay of the quarter new orleans

4831
03:10:03,269 --> 03:10:01,359
particularly the time of katrina this

4832
03:10:05,110 --> 03:10:03,279
young couple moved into our apartment 10

4833
03:10:07,670 --> 03:10:05,120
years after we lived there

4834
03:10:09,349 --> 03:10:07,680
and that story they've made a book a

4835
03:10:11,349 --> 03:10:09,359
dude came out of new york city an

4836
03:10:13,349 --> 03:10:11,359
author moved to new orleans to make a

4837
03:10:16,309 --> 03:10:13,359
book about this story

4838
03:10:18,309 --> 03:10:16,319
that the book is called what is chad you

4839
03:10:21,750 --> 03:10:18,319
bought

4840
03:10:25,269 --> 03:10:21,760
what the heck is the title right like uh

4841
03:10:28,150 --> 03:10:25,279
oh [\h__\h] dealing with the devil

4842
03:10:29,830 --> 03:10:28,160
sorry it might be that might be they

4843
03:10:30,870 --> 03:10:29,840
swear i think we're okay they can edit

4844
03:10:32,950 --> 03:10:30,880
us

4845
03:10:34,389 --> 03:10:32,960
yeah yeah you're good look up look up

4846
03:10:38,229 --> 03:10:34,399
all you need to do is just

4847
03:10:41,349 --> 03:10:38,239
google my new best friend zach and addie

4848
03:10:44,070 --> 03:10:41,359
french quarter katrina right

4849
03:10:44,950 --> 03:10:44,080
and be prepared to start getting crazed

4850
03:10:47,830 --> 03:10:44,960
amazed

4851
03:10:49,429 --> 03:10:47,840
that story in itself and that was

4852
03:10:51,349 --> 03:10:49,439
mind-blowing that was the same apart

4853
03:10:51,750 --> 03:10:51,359
same identical apartment we lived in ten

4854
03:10:54,389 --> 03:10:51,760
years

4855
03:10:54,870 --> 03:10:54,399
prior you look up what happened to those

4856
03:10:58,309 --> 03:10:54,880
people

4857
03:11:00,630 --> 03:10:58,319
oh [\h__\h] i am so good oh

4858
03:11:02,870 --> 03:11:00,640
[\h__\h] dude i mean we're talking about

4859
03:11:03,590 --> 03:11:02,880
devil man if we get into like religious

4860
03:11:06,389 --> 03:11:03,600
[\h__\h] i'm

4861
03:11:06,790 --> 03:11:06,399
so intrigued by that like if we started

4862
03:11:10,309 --> 03:11:06,800
getting

4863
03:11:12,150 --> 03:11:10,319
angels and demons and like this ready

4864
03:11:14,150 --> 03:11:12,160
because i had this kind of virgin mary

4865
03:11:16,790 --> 03:11:14,160
sort of experience with these what i'm

4866
03:11:19,030 --> 03:11:16,800
positive were slaves

4867
03:11:20,790 --> 03:11:19,040
and that apartment was alive and you

4868
03:11:21,269 --> 03:11:20,800
look up the zack and addy's story and

4869
03:11:25,510 --> 03:11:21,279
you're going to

4870
03:11:27,590 --> 03:11:25,520
discover very quickly mind blown

4871
03:11:29,990 --> 03:11:27,600
i'm so glad you guys reached out to us

4872
03:11:33,349 --> 03:11:30,000
this is like my favorite thing right now

4873
03:11:36,469 --> 03:11:33,359
i'm so excited like our book report

4874
03:11:37,349 --> 03:11:36,479
next week okay yeah well how many words

4875
03:11:40,870 --> 03:11:37,359
three thousand

4876
03:11:43,349 --> 03:11:40,880
four thousand exactly handwritten

4877
03:11:45,110 --> 03:11:43,359
i only know like 80 words well we'll fax

4878
03:11:47,110 --> 03:11:45,120
it we'll tax it to you

4879
03:11:49,190 --> 03:11:47,120
if we can't read and spell you just

4880
03:11:51,269 --> 03:11:49,200
verbalize it you just think it listen

4881
03:11:52,469 --> 03:11:51,279
you're doing fine with that pan stuff i

4882
03:11:55,750 --> 03:11:52,479
mean you're just

4883
03:11:57,670 --> 03:11:55,760
there at the pan thing

4884
03:11:59,429 --> 03:11:57,680
yeah i think we're on this i'll just

4885
03:12:00,950 --> 03:11:59,439
walk walkie-talkie to you guys we're on

4886
03:12:03,510 --> 03:12:00,960
the same frequency

4887
03:12:05,590 --> 03:12:03,520
i'm pretty sure be there we can't wait

4888
03:12:08,229 --> 03:12:05,600
you just let us know and we're there

4889
03:12:10,469 --> 03:12:08,239
so thank you both for everything if you

4890
03:12:11,269 --> 03:12:10,479
have families thank your family so much

4891
03:12:17,349 --> 03:12:11,279
for

4892
03:12:18,309 --> 03:12:17,359
both of you sharing with us and well we

4893
03:12:19,670 --> 03:12:18,319
love you all and

4894
03:12:21,910 --> 03:12:19,680
you know that's just the only way i know

4895
03:12:24,710 --> 03:12:21,920
how to say it we thank you so much

4896
03:12:25,429 --> 03:12:24,720
well we love you guys i mean i'm uh yeah

4897
03:12:27,510 --> 03:12:25,439
this

4898
03:12:29,190 --> 03:12:27,520
the past few hours have been amazing and

4899
03:12:30,309 --> 03:12:29,200
you guys are such awesome people with an

4900
03:12:32,870 --> 03:12:30,319
amazing story

4901
03:12:33,590 --> 03:12:32,880
and uh i think not just us but our

4902
03:12:37,269 --> 03:12:33,600
listeners

4903
03:12:39,269 --> 03:12:37,279
are are very interested in this story

4904
03:12:41,190 --> 03:12:39,279
absolutely i i can't wait to uh to

4905
03:12:43,110 --> 03:12:41,200
continue it and next week

4906
03:12:45,590 --> 03:12:43,120
i pray we didn't lose them for you

4907
03:12:46,309 --> 03:12:45,600
because it's just so much it's just so

4908
03:12:49,269 --> 03:12:46,319
much

4909
03:12:51,750 --> 03:12:49,279
no not at all not at all and uh yeah

4910
03:12:54,070 --> 03:12:51,760
same bat time same bat station

4911
03:12:55,990 --> 03:12:54,080
yeah absolutely absolutely and like i

4912
03:12:59,269 --> 03:12:56,000
said if you guys don't mind

4913
03:13:01,990 --> 03:12:59,279
uh like send us an email or something

4914
03:13:04,229 --> 03:13:02,000
um and uh we'd like to kind of maybe

4915
03:13:06,630 --> 03:13:04,239
introduce you to our buddy

4916
03:13:07,750 --> 03:13:06,640
that would be beautiful and please if

4917
03:13:09,910 --> 03:13:07,760
you don't mind

4918
03:13:10,950 --> 03:13:09,920
an address to us so we can get the books

4919
03:13:12,630 --> 03:13:10,960
to you yes

4920
03:13:14,309 --> 03:13:12,640
yes i will do i don't like giving out my

4921
03:13:16,950 --> 03:13:14,319
address via facebook because uh

4922
03:13:18,870 --> 03:13:16,960
absolutely i didn't even have facebook i

4923
03:13:21,429 --> 03:13:18,880
stole chads

4924
03:13:22,550 --> 03:13:21,439
so yeah yeah so just however you can get

4925
03:13:24,229 --> 03:13:22,560
that across to us and

4926
03:13:26,469 --> 03:13:24,239
perfect and we'll do we look so forward

4927
03:13:27,030 --> 03:13:26,479
to the future with you email address or

4928
03:13:28,790 --> 03:13:27,040
something

4929
03:13:30,070 --> 03:13:28,800
and we just can't thank you both enough

4930
03:13:32,870 --> 03:13:30,080
absolutely well let's

4931
03:13:33,269 --> 03:13:32,880
do this have a wonderful night oh we

4932
03:13:39,030 --> 03:13:33,279
will

4933
03:13:40,469 --> 03:13:39,040
same time same place just like you said

4934
03:13:42,790 --> 03:13:40,479
we're gonna pick this back

4935
03:13:45,269 --> 03:13:42,800
up and uh we're gonna get into the story

4936
03:13:47,429 --> 03:13:45,279
if we gotta go part three part four

4937
03:13:49,990 --> 03:13:47,439
whatever we gotta do we're gonna get the

4938
03:13:52,950 --> 03:13:50,000
full story out of you guys because

4939
03:13:53,590 --> 03:13:52,960
i can't win it we are so in it to win it

4940
03:13:58,630 --> 03:13:53,600
we

4941
03:14:01,349 --> 03:13:58,640
had so much fun it's been a great party

4942
03:14:02,389 --> 03:14:01,359
let's do it again right here in the

4943
03:14:04,790 --> 03:14:02,399
house with us

4944
03:14:05,830 --> 03:14:04,800
yeah we're just so thankful well y'all

4945
03:14:09,429 --> 03:14:05,840
have a wonderful

4946
03:14:10,150 --> 03:14:09,439
safe night all right we look forward to

4947
03:14:11,910 --> 03:14:10,160
next week

4948
03:14:14,469 --> 03:14:11,920
okay you guys do all right y'all have a

4949
03:14:17,670 --> 03:14:14,479
good night i'll talk to you next week

4950
03:14:21,269 --> 03:14:17,680
cheers okay cheers you guys bye cheers

4951
03:14:26,870 --> 03:14:24,309
dope damn damn dude i

4952
03:14:28,229 --> 03:14:26,880
man before the show i was telling you

4953
03:14:32,070 --> 03:14:28,239
like i just i

4954
03:14:33,830 --> 03:14:32,080
i when they reached out i just had no

4955
03:14:35,510 --> 03:14:33,840
no idea who we were what we were getting

4956
03:14:35,910 --> 03:14:35,520
into i just thought that their story

4957
03:14:38,229 --> 03:14:35,920
sounded

4958
03:14:39,670 --> 03:14:38,239
really interesting interesting yeah and

4959
03:14:42,389 --> 03:14:39,680
it was just kind of a whim

4960
03:14:42,870 --> 03:14:42,399
and this is like by far my new favorite

4961
03:14:46,389 --> 03:14:42,880
story

4962
03:14:48,070 --> 03:14:46,399
it's so good man i mean they're just uh

4963
03:14:49,510 --> 03:14:48,080
just cool [\h__\h] people you know when

4964
03:14:53,190 --> 03:14:49,520
you when you get the

4965
03:14:55,670 --> 03:14:53,200
the uh when you get the story from a

4966
03:14:59,269 --> 03:14:55,680
perspective of like

4967
03:15:00,070 --> 03:14:59,279
yo i don't like and i'm not into any of

4968
03:15:01,750 --> 03:15:00,080
this [\h__\h]

4969
03:15:03,830 --> 03:15:01,760
yeah but let me tell you what's

4970
03:15:05,429 --> 03:15:03,840
happening let me tell you some [\h__\h]

4971
03:15:07,349 --> 03:15:05,439
let me tell you something that happened

4972
03:15:11,110 --> 03:15:07,359
to me yeah and then

4973
03:15:14,469 --> 03:15:13,910
ufos and aliens but dude we're talking

4974
03:15:17,830 --> 03:15:14,479
like

4975
03:15:21,190 --> 03:15:17,840
mean we're talking native american

4976
03:15:22,790 --> 03:15:21,200
voodoo poltergeist sasquatch

4977
03:15:24,710 --> 03:15:22,800
first we haven't even gotten to it

4978
03:15:27,510 --> 03:15:24,720
lizard monkeys dude

4979
03:15:30,389 --> 03:15:27,520
okay i didn't want to i mean dude these

4980
03:15:31,830 --> 03:15:30,399
are lizard monkeys bro that is literally

4981
03:15:34,710 --> 03:15:31,840
something that they've had an experience

4982
03:15:37,590 --> 03:15:34,720
with and i cannot wait to see to hear

4983
03:15:38,790 --> 03:15:37,600
what the [\h__\h] that means i'm so excited

4984
03:15:41,190 --> 03:15:38,800
yeah this is this is

4985
03:15:41,990 --> 03:15:41,200
this has been great man i uh i

4986
03:15:45,670 --> 03:15:42,000
thoroughly

4987
03:15:48,790 --> 03:15:45,680
enjoyed uh our conversation with them

4988
03:15:50,389 --> 03:15:48,800
yeah absolutely yeah so it doesn't

4989
03:15:52,229 --> 03:15:50,399
you know what i i really love is that

4990
03:15:55,670 --> 03:15:52,239
they're just it feels like

4991
03:15:58,870 --> 03:15:55,680
they're excited that we are excited

4992
03:16:01,510 --> 03:15:58,880
are excited which makes it a fun show

4993
03:16:01,990 --> 03:16:01,520
absolutely dude i feel like absolutely i

4994
03:16:04,870 --> 03:16:02,000
mean we

4995
03:16:06,790 --> 03:16:04,880
haven't had a bad guess yet but i just

4996
03:16:07,910 --> 03:16:06,800
i'm which i'm thankful for but yeah i

4997
03:16:09,910 --> 03:16:07,920
just can't believe that

4998
03:16:10,950 --> 03:16:09,920
we're able to uh to have these

4999
03:16:13,190 --> 03:16:10,960
conversations and

5000
03:16:14,469 --> 03:16:13,200
and not we haven't met a crazy person

5001
03:16:16,309 --> 03:16:14,479
yet yeah

5002
03:16:18,309 --> 03:16:16,319
we have to talk to a crazy person yes we

5003
03:16:20,870 --> 03:16:18,319
don't think so and it's just like

5004
03:16:22,389 --> 03:16:20,880
maybe maybe we're the crazy i think i'm

5005
03:16:25,030 --> 03:16:22,399
the i think we're crazy

5006
03:16:26,630 --> 03:16:25,040
i think we're the crazy ones if you read

5007
03:16:28,790 --> 03:16:26,640
if you read the bullet list that we had

5008
03:16:30,309 --> 03:16:28,800
our talking points um i mean if you said

5009
03:16:31,269 --> 03:16:30,319
that to anybody they were like oh okay

5010
03:16:33,110 --> 03:16:31,279
well what the [\h__\h]

5011
03:16:34,790 --> 03:16:33,120
yeah but when you're hearing it in the

5012
03:16:36,630 --> 03:16:34,800
context that it was laid out and that's

5013
03:16:39,110 --> 03:16:36,640
why it's so important to hear

5014
03:16:39,830 --> 03:16:39,120
the background and dude we literally got

5015
03:16:42,830 --> 03:16:39,840
to

5016
03:16:44,550 --> 03:16:42,840
the second thing ufo sighting in

5017
03:16:47,349 --> 03:16:44,560
louisiana

5018
03:16:48,469 --> 03:16:47,359
we didn't even get to that really really

5019
03:16:50,870 --> 03:16:48,479
we just got to them

5020
03:16:52,630 --> 03:16:50,880
like we have their name chad and elta

5021
03:16:54,389 --> 03:16:52,640
yeah and then the next thing is ufo

5022
03:16:55,990 --> 03:16:54,399
sighting in louisiana and there's one

5023
03:16:58,309 --> 03:16:56,000
two three and then the next thing is

5024
03:16:59,190 --> 03:16:58,319
six seven seven more things christian

5025
03:17:02,790 --> 03:16:59,200
abduction

5026
03:17:05,030 --> 03:17:02,800
yeah like we got to their name

5027
03:17:06,229 --> 03:17:05,040
yeah well i think that's important

5028
03:17:09,910 --> 03:17:06,239
though because it is

5029
03:17:12,790 --> 03:17:09,920
uh what i think we've embarked on is is

5030
03:17:14,229 --> 03:17:12,800
which i i maybe i'd like to continue if

5031
03:17:16,550 --> 03:17:14,239
you know in the future like hey

5032
03:17:17,910 --> 03:17:16,560
what's your background but i'm not i get

5033
03:17:19,110 --> 03:17:17,920
that like not a lot of people want to go

5034
03:17:21,670 --> 03:17:19,120
into their childhood

5035
03:17:22,710 --> 03:17:21,680
not a lot of people have right pleasant

5036
03:17:24,710 --> 03:17:22,720
memories or can

5037
03:17:26,309 --> 03:17:24,720
even remember their childhood in that

5038
03:17:29,110 --> 03:17:26,319
but in this specific story

5039
03:17:29,590 --> 03:17:29,120
it was important right it was and so

5040
03:17:33,349 --> 03:17:29,600
like

5041
03:17:34,070 --> 03:17:33,359
yeah i i i'm so glad we went into all

5042
03:17:37,830 --> 03:17:34,080
that detail

5043
03:17:40,469 --> 03:17:37,840
and and uh also was was able to

5044
03:17:41,190 --> 03:17:40,479
uh articulate that dude like it gave so

5045
03:17:44,469 --> 03:17:41,200
much

5046
03:17:45,030 --> 03:17:44,479
uh texture to the story yeah like moving

5047
03:17:47,030 --> 03:17:45,040
forward

5048
03:17:48,950 --> 03:17:47,040
it was really cool had we had started in

5049
03:17:51,830 --> 03:17:48,960
louisiana it's like

5050
03:17:53,429 --> 03:17:51,840
we missed like missed all we we missed

5051
03:17:54,950 --> 03:17:53,439
the three hour episode

5052
03:17:56,630 --> 03:17:54,960
basically exactly that's what we would

5053
03:17:57,510 --> 03:17:56,640
have missed and it was also cool too

5054
03:17:59,190 --> 03:17:57,520
because i mean like

5055
03:18:01,190 --> 03:17:59,200
we would occasionally bring up things

5056
03:18:01,990 --> 03:18:01,200
that they were like oh [\h__\h] i never

5057
03:18:04,070 --> 03:18:02,000
thought of that

5058
03:18:06,389 --> 03:18:04,080
and that's always so like fun to be able

5059
03:18:08,229 --> 03:18:06,399
to like go back and forth with people

5060
03:18:11,590 --> 03:18:08,239
and exchange ideas

5061
03:18:12,550 --> 03:18:11,600
and and really like you know like they

5062
03:18:15,670 --> 03:18:12,560
were saying they've had

5063
03:18:19,349 --> 03:18:15,680
really bad experiences with people

5064
03:18:20,389 --> 03:18:19,359
in this field and i never want to do

5065
03:18:22,389 --> 03:18:20,399
that to anybody

5066
03:18:24,070 --> 03:18:22,399
yeah i don't even like to say we're even

5067
03:18:26,389 --> 03:18:24,080
in the field dude we're we're observers

5068
03:18:27,750 --> 03:18:26,399
right we're now we definitely are months

5069
03:18:29,269 --> 03:18:27,760
ago i would have been like oh yeah we're

5070
03:18:33,190 --> 03:18:29,279
in the industry but like no

5071
03:18:35,910 --> 03:18:33,200
no we're not we're observers uh

5072
03:18:36,550 --> 03:18:35,920
we're we're commentators and we make it

5073
03:18:38,710 --> 03:18:36,560
easy

5074
03:18:39,830 --> 03:18:38,720
to yeah if it gets to the point that

5075
03:18:41,990 --> 03:18:39,840
people will be like

5076
03:18:43,670 --> 03:18:42,000
oh ufo garage yeah those guys are in the

5077
03:18:46,950 --> 03:18:43,680
field or whatever

5078
03:18:48,469 --> 03:18:46,960
this and that like personally i don't

5079
03:18:49,269 --> 03:18:48,479
feel like we're professional enough to

5080
03:18:52,309 --> 03:18:49,279
be in the field

5081
03:18:53,670 --> 03:18:52,319
and i am so okay with that that

5082
03:18:55,269 --> 03:18:53,680
it's all right if we were ever on

5083
03:18:55,910 --> 03:18:55,279
ancient aliens dude the first thing i

5084
03:18:57,670 --> 03:18:55,920
would do

5085
03:18:58,830 --> 03:18:57,680
is when they were like okay action i

5086
03:19:01,110 --> 03:18:58,840
would go

5087
03:19:02,389 --> 03:19:01,120
[Music]

5088
03:19:03,830 --> 03:19:02,399
and be like all right get these [\h__\h]

5089
03:19:05,190 --> 03:19:03,840
idiots out here all right that was a

5090
03:19:08,070 --> 03:19:05,200
little [\h__\h] up

5091
03:19:09,510 --> 03:19:08,080
like i find the tuxedos were hilarious

5092
03:19:12,309 --> 03:19:09,520
but now i think it's fun

5093
03:19:13,830 --> 03:19:12,319
we both have stupid tuxedos on if they

5094
03:19:14,950 --> 03:19:13,840
move from you they're like all right he

5095
03:19:17,830 --> 03:19:14,960
made a fart noise

5096
03:19:18,070 --> 03:19:17,840
[\h__\h] this guy joe okay what do you have

5097
03:19:20,790 --> 03:19:18,080
to

5098
03:19:21,590 --> 03:19:20,800
say and then they like ready action i'm

5099
03:19:24,870 --> 03:19:21,600
like

5100
03:19:25,910 --> 03:19:24,880
you guys smell that popcorn everybody's

5101
03:19:29,269 --> 03:19:25,920
like

5102
03:19:33,030 --> 03:19:29,279
oh no no

5103
03:19:36,309 --> 03:19:33,040
oh bad dude yes yes no i like that

5104
03:19:37,110 --> 03:19:36,319
i like that i like that uh bull in a

5105
03:19:40,150 --> 03:19:37,120
china shop

5106
03:19:42,630 --> 03:19:40,160
kind of vibe oh my god what a great

5107
03:19:44,469 --> 03:19:42,640
description it's like when we're in like

5108
03:19:46,469 --> 03:19:44,479
when we're around people that are like

5109
03:19:48,630 --> 03:19:46,479
in the ufo field we kind of are

5110
03:19:50,309 --> 03:19:48,640
this bull in a china shop just knocking

5111
03:19:52,710 --> 03:19:50,319
[\h__\h] either we either repel

5112
03:19:53,990 --> 03:19:52,720
people or we attract them asking

5113
03:19:56,150 --> 03:19:54,000
questions that

5114
03:19:58,070 --> 03:19:56,160
we should already know the answers we

5115
03:20:01,590 --> 03:19:58,080
both have a bottle of wine

5116
03:20:03,750 --> 03:20:01,600
we both got a yeah dude

5117
03:20:04,630 --> 03:20:03,760
i mean hey that's how we made most of

5118
03:20:07,990 --> 03:20:04,640
our friends

5119
03:20:09,510 --> 03:20:08,000
yeah in the yeah i know i mean we've met

5120
03:20:12,070 --> 03:20:09,520
some of the best people

5121
03:20:13,349 --> 03:20:12,080
people that's why that's okay i made a i

5122
03:20:14,790 --> 03:20:13,359
did a bad job

5123
03:20:16,630 --> 03:20:14,800
i was trying to explain and be

5124
03:20:18,229 --> 03:20:16,640
optimistic like not everybody that you

5125
03:20:19,269 --> 03:20:18,239
meet in the industry is bad like

5126
03:20:21,349 --> 03:20:19,279
everybody just

5127
03:20:23,030 --> 03:20:21,359
sometimes you don't have time to really

5128
03:20:23,590 --> 03:20:23,040
give the people that deserve the time to

5129
03:20:26,550 --> 03:20:23,600
talk to

5130
03:20:28,070 --> 03:20:26,560
in that moment i just i i failed in the

5131
03:20:29,670 --> 03:20:28,080
way i was trying to describe my point

5132
03:20:30,950 --> 03:20:29,680
i just didn't have it clear in my head

5133
03:20:32,309 --> 03:20:30,960
and i did that thing where i start

5134
03:20:34,790 --> 03:20:32,319
talking where i really don't know where

5135
03:20:37,910 --> 03:20:34,800
i'm gonna say what i'm gonna say

5136
03:20:39,910 --> 03:20:37,920
michael scott you know yeah um

5137
03:20:42,630 --> 03:20:39,920
but yeah dude like michael schrad not

5138
03:20:45,030 --> 03:20:42,640
michael scott he's from the office

5139
03:20:46,389 --> 03:20:45,040
michael i did mean michael scott that's

5140
03:20:48,229 --> 03:20:46,399
it you did

5141
03:20:49,510 --> 03:20:48,239
that's a line from the office i thought

5142
03:20:51,030 --> 03:20:49,520
you were referencing when we did the

5143
03:20:52,870 --> 03:20:51,040
michael schrad episode and you were like

5144
03:20:56,150 --> 03:20:52,880
i'm just kind of talking i'm rambling i

5145
03:20:58,389 --> 03:20:56,160
don't know where i'm going with this

5146
03:20:59,750 --> 03:20:58,399
also michael chat i love that they

5147
03:21:01,030 --> 03:20:59,760
listened to that episode too and they

5148
03:21:02,870 --> 03:21:01,040
were like it was really cool

5149
03:21:04,469 --> 03:21:02,880
oh man i forgot to tell them to listen

5150
03:21:07,269 --> 03:21:04,479
to the episode 50 with

5151
03:21:08,870 --> 03:21:07,279
with eric in it so yeah man i mean

5152
03:21:11,269 --> 03:21:08,880
that's just super cool man

5153
03:21:12,950 --> 03:21:11,279
i really it sounds sorry it sounded like

5154
03:21:13,990 --> 03:21:12,960
she didn't realize eric mitchell was

5155
03:21:15,510 --> 03:21:14,000
eric mitchell

5156
03:21:17,110 --> 03:21:15,520
she realized it afterwards she was like

5157
03:21:18,870 --> 03:21:17,120
oh [\h__\h] i've heard of that guy yeah

5158
03:21:20,150 --> 03:21:18,880
yeah yeah sorry and you know another

5159
03:21:21,910 --> 03:21:20,160
cool thing too man

5160
03:21:23,510 --> 03:21:21,920
is you know when we talk about that

5161
03:21:27,349 --> 03:21:23,520
attraction

5162
03:21:30,870 --> 03:21:27,359
it's like maybe like our style

5163
03:21:33,190 --> 03:21:30,880
kind of repels the [\h__\h] uh it has

5164
03:21:33,990 --> 03:21:33,200
because it has so far we have only

5165
03:21:38,389 --> 03:21:34,000
attracted

5166
03:21:41,590 --> 03:21:38,399
amazing people dude that's a great point

5167
03:21:43,030 --> 03:21:41,600
we've only had the most amazing

5168
03:21:44,070 --> 03:21:43,040
interactions with some of the most

5169
03:21:46,309 --> 03:21:44,080
amazing people

5170
03:21:47,269 --> 03:21:46,319
because when you look at these amazing

5171
03:21:49,910 --> 03:21:47,279
people

5172
03:21:51,030 --> 03:21:49,920
they're not taking themselves so serious

5173
03:21:53,269 --> 03:21:51,040
that it's like

5174
03:21:55,269 --> 03:21:53,279
this [\h__\h] thing but when you talk

5175
03:21:56,950 --> 03:21:55,279
about the big names out there

5176
03:21:59,510 --> 03:21:56,960
i don't know who she was talking about

5177
03:22:01,670 --> 03:21:59,520
but like maybe i kind of have an idea

5178
03:22:03,349 --> 03:22:01,680
and yeah those guys are like [\h__\h]

5179
03:22:05,110 --> 03:22:03,359
well travis walton was amazing to

5180
03:22:06,710 --> 03:22:05,120
us yeah we also didn't have nice to us

5181
03:22:08,790 --> 03:22:06,720
we didn't really talk to him and he

5182
03:22:10,870 --> 03:22:08,800
was just like dude such a [\h__\h] cool

5183
03:22:12,229 --> 03:22:10,880
guy yeah we had such a cool interaction

5184
03:22:13,670 --> 03:22:12,239
he like signed your book and [\h__\h] and

5185
03:22:15,590 --> 03:22:13,680
like

5186
03:22:16,710 --> 03:22:15,600
what if he was right i'm going to play

5187
03:22:18,870 --> 03:22:16,720
guitar tonight

5188
03:22:20,870 --> 03:22:18,880
like he had his guitar with him dude he

5189
03:22:23,510 --> 03:22:20,880
just got his hair dyed i mean

5190
03:22:23,990 --> 03:22:23,520
the man was like on point crushing it

5191
03:22:27,349 --> 03:22:24,000
just

5192
03:22:29,670 --> 03:22:27,359
perfection i mean

5193
03:22:30,630 --> 03:22:29,680
he was on point so yeah i mean you know

5194
03:22:33,110 --> 03:22:30,640
it's just uh

5195
03:22:34,710 --> 03:22:33,120
you know i don't know i i i feel bad

5196
03:22:35,510 --> 03:22:34,720
because i feel like travis walton isn't

5197
03:22:37,670 --> 03:22:35,520
here to

5198
03:22:39,030 --> 03:22:37,680
to defend himself if he were here he

5199
03:22:40,870 --> 03:22:39,040
would have been like oh dude i

5200
03:22:42,150 --> 03:22:40,880
like i'm so sorry i ate something bad

5201
03:22:45,030 --> 03:22:42,160
and like my stomach is hurting

5202
03:22:46,790 --> 03:22:45,040
i'm so sorry like i bet i'm just being

5203
03:22:47,750 --> 03:22:46,800
optimistic because we had such a good

5204
03:22:49,910 --> 03:22:47,760
interaction and

5205
03:22:51,349 --> 03:22:49,920
and like the people that i've other

5206
03:22:52,790 --> 03:22:51,359
people that i've talked to that met

5207
03:22:55,110 --> 03:22:52,800
travis walton they're like dude he's the

5208
03:22:56,870 --> 03:22:55,120
best [\h__\h] guy ever yeah like i'm just

5209
03:22:57,510 --> 03:22:56,880
going off of that like i'm so sorry that

5210
03:22:59,590 --> 03:22:57,520
they had a

5211
03:23:01,349 --> 03:22:59,600
terrible experience with him yeah yeah

5212
03:23:02,389 --> 03:23:01,359
well it's not really terrible if you

5213
03:23:04,550 --> 03:23:02,399
think about it because

5214
03:23:06,070 --> 03:23:04,560
it was just kind of awkward it was like

5215
03:23:08,550 --> 03:23:06,080
he knew that they have been

5216
03:23:10,229 --> 03:23:08,560
remember when what you said to me when

5217
03:23:11,510 --> 03:23:10,239
we met him and you were like you looked

5218
03:23:11,830 --> 03:23:11,520
into his eyes and you were like this

5219
03:23:13,750 --> 03:23:11,840
guy's

5220
03:23:16,070 --> 03:23:13,760
seen some [\h__\h] and i was like [\h__\h] yeah

5221
03:23:18,469 --> 03:23:16,080
that's what it was you can see the ptsd

5222
03:23:19,750 --> 03:23:18,479
in his eye yeah so i wonder if you were

5223
03:23:20,630 --> 03:23:19,760
i got i think you were trying to make

5224
03:23:22,469 --> 03:23:20,640
this point

5225
03:23:23,670 --> 03:23:22,479
uh earlier maybe you already did and i

5226
03:23:25,910 --> 03:23:23,680
forgot about it but like

5227
03:23:27,830 --> 03:23:25,920
maybe it was this repelling moment where

5228
03:23:30,070 --> 03:23:27,840
like oh you've seen some [\h__\h]

5229
03:23:31,910 --> 03:23:30,080
i have to i don't want to relive that

5230
03:23:33,750 --> 03:23:31,920
right now yeah i'm having a great time

5231
03:23:35,190 --> 03:23:33,760
i'm trying to distance myself that could

5232
03:23:38,070 --> 03:23:35,200
be it man i'm in this like

5233
03:23:39,269 --> 03:23:38,080
party signing autographs mode i don't

5234
03:23:42,150 --> 03:23:39,279
want to go into

5235
03:23:43,110 --> 03:23:42,160
[\h__\h] relive my abduction experience [\h__\h]

5236
03:23:45,830 --> 03:23:43,120
yeah that could

5237
03:23:46,150 --> 03:23:45,840
totally be it yeah definitely definitely

5238
03:23:50,950 --> 03:23:46,160
but

5239
03:23:54,150 --> 03:23:50,960
i mean all in all man fantastic episode

5240
03:23:56,150 --> 03:23:54,160
chad and alta man what a uh

5241
03:23:57,190 --> 03:23:56,160
what a great story um what great

5242
03:23:59,590 --> 03:23:57,200
storytellers

5243
03:24:00,710 --> 03:23:59,600
uh i'm yeah there's so much to it and

5244
03:24:01,910 --> 03:24:00,720
i'm so glad we're

5245
03:24:03,670 --> 03:24:01,920
we were able to have them on and they

5246
03:24:04,389 --> 03:24:03,680
reached out to us so i mean if if

5247
03:24:06,309 --> 03:24:04,399
anybody

5248
03:24:07,750 --> 03:24:06,319
that's listening that has a story that

5249
03:24:08,950 --> 03:24:07,760
wants to reach out to us i mean this is

5250
03:24:11,110 --> 03:24:08,960
how it happens it's so

5251
03:24:12,229 --> 03:24:11,120
dumb like just message us yeah we're

5252
03:24:14,710 --> 03:24:12,239
like no [\h__\h]

5253
03:24:15,269 --> 03:24:14,720
form to fill out just messages just hit

5254
03:24:17,349 --> 03:24:15,279
us up

5255
03:24:18,469 --> 03:24:17,359
and then the day we do the podcast we're

5256
03:24:19,910 --> 03:24:18,479
like hey you want to talk to these

5257
03:24:22,309 --> 03:24:19,920
people and we're like yeah

5258
03:24:23,030 --> 03:24:22,319
yeah yeah and we [\h__\h] do it because

5259
03:24:28,469 --> 03:24:23,040
it's cool

5260
03:24:30,469 --> 03:24:28,479
but yeah that was that was great man

5261
03:24:33,830 --> 03:24:30,479
that's gonna that's gonna go in our uh

5262
03:24:34,630 --> 03:24:33,840
in my top five for sure in my top five

5263
03:24:37,510 --> 03:24:34,640
definitely but

5264
03:24:39,030 --> 03:24:37,520
uh hey we got some big news um we did

5265
03:24:41,910 --> 03:24:39,040
the uh the redeemer

5266
03:24:43,670 --> 03:24:41,920
giveaway um i'm not sure if this person

5267
03:24:45,429 --> 03:24:43,680
will be able to receive it because i'm

5268
03:24:48,630 --> 03:24:45,439
dropping [\h__\h] all over the place

5269
03:24:51,030 --> 03:24:48,640
um but uh oh yeah this is funny

5270
03:24:52,469 --> 03:24:51,040
yeah the uh the big winner for the

5271
03:24:57,830 --> 03:24:52,479
redeemer package

5272
03:25:02,870 --> 03:25:00,550
man from the band of bearded brothers

5273
03:25:04,710 --> 03:25:02,880
the brah podcast yup he's one of her

5274
03:25:05,990 --> 03:25:04,720
very good friends and i know he had

5275
03:25:09,110 --> 03:25:06,000
asked a question

5276
03:25:11,349 --> 03:25:09,120
about like drug testing and whatnot and

5277
03:25:12,229 --> 03:25:11,359
you know does it show up and yeah you

5278
03:25:14,870 --> 03:25:12,239
know uh

5279
03:25:15,830 --> 03:25:14,880
more than likely man it's really not

5280
03:25:18,469 --> 03:25:15,840
enough to

5281
03:25:19,670 --> 03:25:18,479
show up the only reason we say that it

5282
03:25:22,229 --> 03:25:19,680
could possibly

5283
03:25:23,670 --> 03:25:22,239
is because you know there's a small ass

5284
03:25:25,910 --> 03:25:23,680
chance that

5285
03:25:27,590 --> 03:25:25,920
maybe some random [\h__\h] it's the it's the

5286
03:25:30,070 --> 03:25:27,600
equivalent to eating like a

5287
03:25:31,670 --> 03:25:30,080
a poppy seed bagel and then having to

5288
03:25:33,030 --> 03:25:31,680
take a drug test and it's like oh you've

5289
03:25:35,429 --> 03:25:33,040
been doing opiates and you're like no

5290
03:25:37,830 --> 03:25:35,439
dude i actually just had a [\h__\h] bagel

5291
03:25:39,349 --> 03:25:37,840
you know with poppy's delicious so you

5292
03:25:40,070 --> 03:25:39,359
know it's kind of the same exact thing

5293
03:25:41,910 --> 03:25:40,080
man

5294
03:25:43,670 --> 03:25:41,920
if if you can't take it and you want to

5295
03:25:45,269 --> 03:25:43,680
pass it on to somebody else yeah

5296
03:25:47,670 --> 03:25:45,279
just let us know and we can definitely

5297
03:25:49,590 --> 03:25:47,680
do that but you did win the package man

5298
03:25:50,950 --> 03:25:49,600
it will explain how they how he won

5299
03:25:52,630 --> 03:25:50,960
because i feel like listeners are gonna

5300
03:25:54,950 --> 03:25:52,640
be like no wait he's your friend

5301
03:25:55,990 --> 03:25:54,960
like wow yeah no no you guys so it was i

5302
03:25:57,590 --> 03:25:56,000
mean we

5303
03:25:59,110 --> 03:25:57,600
put the instructions on there dude i

5304
03:26:00,710 --> 03:25:59,120
mean bailey's part of this adam bayley

5305
03:26:02,710 --> 03:26:00,720
did a very good job at putting the

5306
03:26:03,510 --> 03:26:02,720
instructions she posted it all on there

5307
03:26:06,070 --> 03:26:03,520
you gotta like

5308
03:26:08,309 --> 03:26:06,080
our page their page and so i guess if

5309
03:26:10,469 --> 03:26:08,319
william did like their page and and

5310
03:26:11,590 --> 03:26:10,479
and went for it then he he gets the

5311
03:26:13,429 --> 03:26:11,600
package man they

5312
03:26:15,269 --> 03:26:13,439
you know they put a bunch of names into

5313
03:26:17,590 --> 03:26:15,279
a a random generator

5314
03:26:18,309 --> 03:26:17,600
yep is what you're telling me and then

5315
03:26:20,790 --> 03:26:18,319
william won

5316
03:26:22,229 --> 03:26:20,800
and then william picked it up yeah so

5317
03:26:25,429 --> 03:26:22,239
yeah man

5318
03:26:28,070 --> 03:26:25,439
this is the bomb they call it a uh a a

5319
03:26:29,269 --> 03:26:28,080
don't drop a dude what is it uh us a

5320
03:26:45,190 --> 03:26:29,279
slav

5321
03:26:52,550 --> 03:26:46,950
i'll tell you that much no i mean i

5322
03:26:59,510 --> 03:26:55,830
oh god damn it oh

5323
03:27:00,070 --> 03:26:59,520
so funny and then we got these sick ass

5324
03:27:03,510 --> 03:27:00,080
stickers

5325
03:27:05,269 --> 03:27:03,520
we're like touching all your [\h__\h]

5326
03:27:06,630 --> 03:27:05,279
we've got the pre-rolls in here brother

5327
03:27:08,950 --> 03:27:06,640
man um

5328
03:27:10,309 --> 03:27:08,960
if you and the old lady i mean i know

5329
03:27:11,750 --> 03:27:10,319
you got some churns

5330
03:27:13,190 --> 03:27:11,760
i know you got cheering walking around

5331
03:27:15,190 --> 03:27:13,200
the house william you know what i'm

5332
03:27:16,790 --> 03:27:15,200
saying so late night when they're asleep

5333
03:27:18,950 --> 03:27:16,800
and it's time to kind of wind down and

5334
03:27:21,030 --> 03:27:18,960
relax and maybe you're out of uh

5335
03:27:22,550 --> 03:27:21,040
what is that uh that apple cider drink

5336
03:27:23,510 --> 03:27:22,560
that you were drinking on the podcast

5337
03:27:26,150 --> 03:27:23,520
that one day

5338
03:27:27,670 --> 03:27:26,160
you know whatever um hit one of these

5339
03:27:27,990 --> 03:27:27,680
man i mean it's it's good it ain't going

5340
03:27:29,429 --> 03:27:28,000
to get

5341
03:27:31,429 --> 03:27:29,439
you high enough it's going to make you

5342
03:27:33,590 --> 03:27:31,439
feel good you got this here mask

5343
03:27:35,110 --> 03:27:33,600
dude you got a mask and the fun fact

5344
03:27:36,870 --> 03:27:35,120
about this mask is when you wear it

5345
03:27:38,710 --> 03:27:36,880
nobody thinks that you smoke weed

5346
03:27:40,229 --> 03:27:38,720
yeah it's it's got weed leaves on it

5347
03:27:42,309 --> 03:27:40,239
because it's hemp but you tell them that

5348
03:27:43,990 --> 03:27:42,319
this isn't weed it's it's hemp yeah yeah

5349
03:27:45,510 --> 03:27:44,000
that's exactly but you have to shout

5350
03:27:47,190 --> 03:27:45,520
you have to shout it constantly it's

5351
03:27:50,229 --> 03:27:47,200
hamp it's not it's

5352
03:27:52,309 --> 03:27:50,239
not waste no it's no weed it's um you

5353
03:27:52,630 --> 03:27:52,319
got this uh this sweet ass oil in here

5354
03:27:54,550 --> 03:27:52,640
too

5355
03:27:56,229 --> 03:27:54,560
brother man that you're right with lysol

5356
03:27:58,389 --> 03:27:56,239
before dude i mean you know you're gonna

5357
03:27:59,670 --> 03:27:58,399
be making some mango smoothies with that

5358
03:28:02,309 --> 03:27:59,680
and you got the uh

5359
03:28:05,510 --> 03:28:02,319
the the five cam uh capsule sample

5360
03:28:07,670 --> 03:28:05,520
packet man so congratulations william

5361
03:28:12,389 --> 03:28:07,680
you were the uh you were the big winner

5362
03:28:16,070 --> 03:28:14,389
you're the big wiener all right william

5363
03:28:19,590 --> 03:28:16,080
so uh

5364
03:28:22,070 --> 03:28:19,600
yeah man i mean like and and also if

5365
03:28:22,630 --> 03:28:22,080
i mean let us know if you're like hey

5366
03:28:24,309 --> 03:28:22,640
i'm

5367
03:28:26,070 --> 03:28:24,319
you know a little afraid of getting drug

5368
03:28:27,349 --> 03:28:26,080
tested just let us know we'll we'll

5369
03:28:29,429 --> 03:28:27,359
figure something out yeah man

5370
03:28:31,110 --> 03:28:29,439
we'll give it we'll go to the second

5371
03:28:32,229 --> 03:28:31,120
place winner or whatever so just let us

5372
03:28:35,429 --> 03:28:32,239
know brother man yeah

5373
03:28:37,750 --> 03:28:35,439
but uh yeah dude but i i feel like i

5374
03:28:39,030 --> 03:28:37,760
will william has been such an integral

5375
03:28:40,870 --> 03:28:39,040
part of this podcast

5376
03:28:42,150 --> 03:28:40,880
since the beginning i was kind of like

5377
03:28:45,429 --> 03:28:42,160
wait uh

5378
03:28:47,830 --> 03:28:45,439
that's okay no that's dope no [\h__\h] yeah

5379
03:28:48,870 --> 03:28:47,840
yeah like as much as it'd be cool like

5380
03:28:50,550 --> 03:28:48,880
somebody that

5381
03:28:52,469 --> 03:28:50,560
just found out about our podcast and

5382
03:28:55,910 --> 03:28:52,479
like oh my god i also won this [\h__\h]

5383
03:28:57,910 --> 03:28:55,920
but also like dude i want to give like

5384
03:28:59,670 --> 03:28:57,920
the the people that have stuck by us man

5385
03:29:01,030 --> 03:28:59,680
like it's such a cool it's

5386
03:29:02,790 --> 03:29:01,040
i don't know it just it was a happy

5387
03:29:04,870 --> 03:29:02,800
accident definitely man

5388
03:29:06,389 --> 03:29:04,880
definitely yeah well all right dude

5389
03:29:10,150 --> 03:29:06,399
they're going to be back next week

5390
03:29:13,750 --> 03:29:10,160
yeah dude i can't wait dude i'm excited

5391
03:29:15,830 --> 03:29:13,760
i'm excited yeah man so i mean

5392
03:29:17,030 --> 03:29:15,840
that's it for me man is that it for you

5393
03:29:19,110 --> 03:29:17,040
tonight yes

5394
03:29:20,150 --> 03:29:19,120
all right wait can we show the people

5395
03:29:23,510 --> 03:29:20,160
what you drew well

5396
03:29:26,950 --> 03:29:23,520
uh oh yeah

5397
03:29:28,790 --> 03:29:26,960
i'm i'm pretty artistic so um uh

5398
03:29:30,070 --> 03:29:28,800
let's see here i drew this i drew this

5399
03:29:31,910 --> 03:29:30,080
sweet ass dick

5400
03:29:34,389 --> 03:29:31,920
i was trying to make ben laugh and i

5401
03:29:36,469 --> 03:29:34,399
almost succeeded

5402
03:29:39,750 --> 03:29:36,479
i like had one of those belly laughs but

5403
03:29:44,309 --> 03:29:39,760
then like i have such focus

5404
03:29:45,590 --> 03:29:44,319
sometimes you do and i was i don't know

5405
03:29:47,990 --> 03:29:45,600
i didn't want to say it i don't want to

5406
03:29:50,790 --> 03:29:48,000
say it but that's it oh

5407
03:29:51,510 --> 03:29:50,800
god uh but yeah dude you're uh you're

5408
03:29:53,830 --> 03:29:51,520
you've got a

5409
03:29:55,349 --> 03:29:53,840
such a steady hand also when you like

5410
03:29:57,030 --> 03:29:55,359
what really almost got me to [\h__\h]

5411
03:29:57,750 --> 03:29:57,040
bust out laughing is when you did the

5412
03:29:59,030 --> 03:29:57,760
jizz

5413
03:30:00,830 --> 03:29:59,040
and it's like coming out like a

5414
03:30:02,389 --> 03:30:00,840
sprinkler like in all different

5415
03:30:05,110 --> 03:30:02,399
directions oh

5416
03:30:06,389 --> 03:30:05,120
dude as a landscaper i know all about

5417
03:30:07,030 --> 03:30:06,399
full coverage when it comes to

5418
03:30:08,229 --> 03:30:07,040
sprinklers

5419
03:30:09,750 --> 03:30:08,239
and the fact that when you were drawing

5420
03:30:11,510 --> 03:30:09,760
it you didn't look at me once you were

5421
03:30:15,030 --> 03:30:11,520
just like

5422
03:30:17,510 --> 03:30:15,040
no facial expression at all oh

5423
03:30:18,070 --> 03:30:17,520
god that's funny hell yeah all right man

5424
03:30:20,229 --> 03:30:18,080
all right man

5425
03:30:21,670 --> 03:30:20,239
that was fun thank you guys for

5426
03:30:28,630 --> 03:30:21,680
listening um